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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    That would be your guy Rob.

    Now that I have said my piece on Eli, let's not lose sight of the fact Eli has more SB rings than Romo has playoff wins.

    Thanks for playing though
    Thats funny, im not familiar with anyone named Romo that plays for the Kings. That being said Romo does have the highest 4th quarter passer rating of all time. Organizations win Titles, qb's put up numbers. So many sports morons out there that think a single player can win a title its scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    All 10. Eli is 1st ballot HOF. Most HOF QBs had ups and downs, not everyone is Tom Brady, even in the HOF.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DALLASROB View Post
    Thats funny, im not familiar with anyone named Romo that plays for the Kings. That being said Romo does have the highest 4th quarter passer rating of all time. Organizations win Titles, qb's put up numbers. So many sports morons out there that think a single player can win a title its scary.
    It's a QB driven league, hockey guy. We aren't discussing CBs here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadtrip635 View Post
    Check out the very bottom note about Dan Fouts, HOF QB. You guys make me laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DALLASROB View Post
    Thats funny, im not familiar with anyone named Romo that plays for the Kings. That being said Romo does have the highest 4th quarter passer rating of all time. Organizations win Titles, qb's put up numbers. So many sports morons out there that think a single player can win a title its scary.
    I don't fall into that moron group, however, I know countless times when Romo could have advanced his team but failed miserably

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    It's never Eli's fault is it?

    Let's say 20 percent (and I'm being kind) of Eli's 161 career interceptions wasn't his fault.
    That still leaves a brutal 145 career interception.

    Regarding miscommunication by the receiver, isn't the one communicating in the huddle the QB?
    it would leave him at a brutal 129

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Check out the very bottom note about Dan Fouts, HOF QB. You guys make me laugh.
    What you neglect to tell us is Fouts played 15 years, never got picked more than 24 times in any one season, threw the ball 35 percent more than Eli did, never led the league in picks, led the NFL in passing yardage 4 consecutive years. Eli never led the league in any category except interceptions.

    What your graphic fails to tell you is Fouts started with 15 picks that those first six games as a 35 year old at the very end of his career on a really crappy Charger team.

    Comparing Fouts to Eli is laughable.
    Fouts in his prime was Joe Montana in his prime, look it up.

    Eli ain't getting to no Hall of Fame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouHave2outs View Post
    it would leave him at a brutal 129
    Whatever dude, he's still a pick six machine.

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    Dan Fouts



    Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors

    Stats are Year Lg Value (Rank/All-Time)

    Awards
    1982 NFL PFWA MVP
    1982 NFL Newspaper Ent. Assoc. MVP
    1982 NFL AP Offensive Player of the Year
    Pro Football Hall of Fame 2nd team All-1980s Team
    Pro Football Reference 2nd team All-1980s Team
    Pro Bowls
    1979
    1980
    1981
    1982
    1983
    1985
    First-Team All-Pro
    1979
    1982
    Approximate Value
    1979 NFL 16 (4)
    1980 NFL 16 (5)
    1981 NFL 19 (1)

    1982 NFL 22 (1/41)

    Career 162 (34)
    Approximate Value (Weighted)
    Career 122 (35)
    Passes Completed
    1976 NFL 208 (3)
    1978 NFL 224 (8)
    1979 NFL 332 (2)
    1980 NFL 348 (1/70)

    1981 NFL 360 (1/51)

    1982 NFL 204 (3)
    1984 NFL 317 (3)
    Career 3297 (13)
    Pass Attempts
    1976 NFL 359 (5)
    1979 NFL 530 (4)
    1980 NFL 589 (1/40)

    1981 NFL 609 (1/24)

    1982 NFL 330 (2)
    1984 NFL 507 (5)
    Career 5604 (12)
    Passing Yds
    1976 NFL 2535 (8)
    1978 NFL 2999 (6)
    1979 NFL 4082 (1/89)

    1980 NFL 4715 (1/18)

    1981 NFL 4802 (1/13)

    1982 NFL 2883 (1)

    1984 NFL 3740 (4)
    1985 NFL 3638 (6)
    Career 43040 (11)
    Passing TD
    1976 NFL 14 (9)
    1978 NFL 24 (4)
    1979 NFL 24 (6)
    1980 NFL 30 (2/67)
    1981 NFL 33 (1/31)

    1982 NFL 17 (1)

    1984 NFL 19 (9)
    1985 NFL 27 (2)
    Career 254 (14)
    Passer Rating
    1978 NFL 83.0 (3)
    1979 NFL 82.6 (3)
    1980 NFL 84.7 (6)
    1981 NFL 90.6 (2)
    1982 NFL 93.3 (2)
    1983 NFL 92.5 (6)
    1984 NFL 83.4 (8)
    1985 NFL 88.1 (4)
    Career 80.2 (62)
    Long Pass
    1973 NFL 69 (7)
    1974 NFL 75 (8)
    1976 NFL 81 (4)
    1985 NFL 75 (8)
    Passes Intercepted
    1973 NFL 13 (8)
    1976 NFL 15 (8)
    1978 NFL 20 (8)
    1979 NFL 24 (3/58)
    1980 NFL 24 (5/58)
    1982 NFL 11 (8)
    1984 NFL 17 (7)
    1985 NFL 20 (5)
    1986 NFL 22 (4)
    1987 NFL 15 (6)
    Career 242 (12)
    Sacked
    1976 NFL 39 (2)
    Career 319 (30)
    Sacked Yds Lost
    Career 2304 (32)
    Passing Yds/Game
    1976 NFL 181.1 (9)
    1978 NFL 199.9 (6)
    1979 NFL 255.1 (1)

    1980 NFL 294.7 (1/23)

    1981 NFL 300.1 (1/17)

    1982 NFL 320.3 (1/4)

    1983 NFL 297.5 (1/19)

    1984 NFL 287.7 (3/36)
    1985 NFL 259.9 (1)

    1986 NFL 252.6 (4)
    Career 237.8 (13)
    Yds/Pass Att
    1974 NFL 7.3 (7)
    1976 NFL 7.1 (10)
    1978 NFL 7.9 (1)

    1979 NFL 7.7 (6)
    1980 NFL 8.0 (2)
    1981 NFL 7.9 (3)
    1982 NFL 8.7 (1/42)

    1983 NFL 8.8 (2/35)
    1985 NFL 8.5 (1/67)

    Career 7.7 (16)
    Yds/Pass Cmp
    1974 NFL 15.1 (1)

    1978 NFL 13.4 (7)
    1980 NFL 13.5 (7)
    1981 NFL 13.3 (9)
    1982 NFL 14.1 (2)
    1983 NFL 13.8 (6)
    1985 NFL 14.3 (2)
    Career 13.1 (62)
    Pass Attempts/Game
    1976 NFL 25.6 (5)
    1978 NFL 25.4 (9)
    1979 NFL 33.1 (4)
    1980 NFL 36.8 (1/55)

    1981 NFL 38.1 (2/34)
    1982 NFL 36.7 (2/58)
    1983 NFL 34.0 (2)
    1984 NFL 39.0 (1/19)

    1985 NFL 30.7 (9)
    1986 NFL 35.8 (3/84)
    1987 NFL 33.1 (8)
    Career 31.0 (28)
    Adj Yds/Pass Att
    1976 NFL 5.96 (10)
    1978 NFL 6.77 (3)
    1979 NFL 6.57 (7)
    1980 NFL 7.19 (5)
    1981 NFL 7.71 (3)
    1982 NFL 8.27 (1/67)

    1983 NFL 7.94 (3/92)
    1985 NFL 7.62 (3)
    Career 6.64 (32)
    Net Yds/Pass Att
    1974 NFL 6.56 (4)
    1976 NFL 5.82 (9)
    1978 NFL 7.12 (1)

    1979 NFL 6.97 (2)
    1980 NFL 7.25 (1/77)

    1981 NFL 7.43 (1/53)

    1982 NFL 8.15 (1/8)

    1983 NFL 8.10 (1/9)

    1984 NFL 6.55 (5)
    1985 NFL 7.82 (1/21)

    1986 NFL 6.34 (9)
    Career 6.88 (10)
    Adj Net Yds/Pass Att
    1974 NFL 4.85 (10)
    1978 NFL 6.08 (2)
    1979 NFL 5.89 (2)
    1980 NFL 6.48 (3)
    1981 NFL 7.27 (2/77)
    1982 NFL 7.70 (1/34)

    1983 NFL 7.32 (2/71)
    1984 NFL 5.83 (7)
    1985 NFL 7.02 (1)

    Career 5.90 (24)
    Passes Completed/Game
    1976 NFL 14.9 (4)
    1978 NFL 14.9 (6)
    1979 NFL 20.8 (2)
    1980 NFL 21.8 (1/96)

    1981 NFL 22.5 (2/69)
    1982 NFL 22.7 (3/61)
    1983 NFL 21.5 (2)
    1984 NFL 24.4 (1/24)

    1985 NFL 18.1 (7)
    1986 NFL 21.0 (3)
    1987 NFL 18.7 (10)
    Career 18.2 (29)
    Pass Completion %
    1976 NFL 57.9% (5)
    1978 NFL 58.8% (4)
    1979 NFL 62.6% (1)

    1980 NFL 59.1% (10)
    1981 NFL 59.1% (5)
    1982 NFL 61.8% (6)
    1983 NFL 63.2% (4)
    1984 NFL 62.5% (5)
    1985 NFL 59.1% (6)
    1986 NFL 58.6% (8)
    Career 58.8% (57)
    Pass Intercept. %
    1980 NFL 4.1% (10)
    1981 NFL 2.8% (5)
    1982 NFL 3.3% (7)
    1984 NFL 3.4% (9)
    Career 4.3% (139)
    Passing TD %
    1978 NFL 6.3% (2)
    1981 NFL 5.4% (6)
    1982 NFL 5.2% (6)
    1983 NFL 5.9% (6)
    1985 NFL 6.3% (1)

    Career 4.5% (75)
    Sack %
    1973 NFL 6.73% (8)
    1974 NFL 4.82% (4)
    1978 NFL 5.46% (6)
    1979 NFL 5.02% (6)
    1980 NFL 5.15% (6)
    1981 NFL 3.03% (2/53)
    1982 NFL 3.51% (3/83)
    1983 NFL 3.95% (2)
    1984 NFL 5.41% (4)
    1985 NFL 4.02% (2)
    1986 NFL 4.66% (4)
    Career 5.39% (37)
    Game-Winning Drives
    1974 NFL 2 (8)
    1976 NFL 2 (9)
    1978 NFL 2 (10)
    1980 NFL 3 (8)
    1981 NFL 4 (1/78)

    1982 NFL 3 (2)
    1985 NFL 3 (6)
    Career 26 (20)
    Comebacks
    1973 NFL 1 (8)
    1974 NFL 2 (5)
    1976 NFL 1 (9)
    1977 NFL 1 (9)
    1980 NFL 2 (7)
    1981 NFL 4 (1/33)

    1982 NFL 2 (3)
    1983 NFL 2 (9)
    1985 NFL 3 (3/100)
    1987 NFL 2 (9)
    Career 24 (11)
    Total Offense
    1974 NFL 1696 (10)
    1976 NFL 2380 (8)
    1978 NFL 2912 (8)
    1979 NFL 3936 (1)

    1980 NFL 4520 (1/27)

    1981 NFL 4724 (1/11)

    1982 NFL 2797 (1)

    1983 NFL 2863 (10)
    1984 NFL 3483 (6)
    1985 NFL 3502 (6)
    Career 41212 (10)
    Fumbles
    1976 NFL 8 (8)
    1978 NFL 10 (6)
    1979 NFL 13 (2/72)
    1980 NFL 11 (7)
    1985 NFL 13 (4/72)
    1987 NFL 10 (3)
    Career 106 (11)
    Fumbles Recovered
    1976 NFL 4 (9)
    1979 NFL 6 (1/45)

    1982 NFL 3 (6)
    1985 NFL 6 (1/45)

    1987 NFL 4 (7)
    Career 38 (10)

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    Dan Fouts career INT%: 4.3
    Eli career INT%: 3.3

    That's not even considering the playoffs, where Eli takes a step up and Fouts a step backwards.

    Also, I count at least 22 NFL HOF QBs with a higher career INT%.

    Let's get real. Eli isn't Brady or even Peyton, but stacks up very well against most NFL QBs in the HOF.

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    Fouts was 10x better

    People dont watch football here

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Fouts was 10x better

    People dont watch football here
    Explain some of those Fouts playoff losses. 5 picks in one game, twice? C'mon man. Fouts was chucking it and praying.

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