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    If you have EVER wondered about the NFL being completely on the level

    Watch that last play, then check the line and the total for this game.




    That was classic. Gronk being basically carried out of the end zone by a linebacker, flag thrown, then all of a sudden, it gets picked up and the game is over.

    Right.


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    Exactly why I stopped betting on it after last week. Obvious fix tonight.

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    it is just silly. ruin a good game with horse crap officials at the end.

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    the nfl hates the patriots

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    Makes no sense
    If it was fixed why throw the flag in the first place and pats also got a pi call 2 plays before.
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    FTR, I absolutely agree that was not pass interference.

    But it was absolutely defensive holding -- unless there's some special rule that allows you to hold on the final play of the game.

    New England closed at +3 (+105) at Pinny vs. +1 (-105) at Bovada. The Pats had "no chance" there.

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    Coin do you ever not view a game from a gambling/line perspective?

    Seriously man. Not everything is a conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayc88 View Post
    Makes no sense
    If it was fixed why throw the flag in the first place and pats also got a pi call 2 plays before.
    The "mistake" of throwing the flag was quickly "corrected."

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    It was an interception no matter what so not to much to complain about, NE would of got a play for free that they didn't really deserve. If that's what the refs talked about in their conference then it's all good.

    Ridiculous decision to tackle Gronk without the ball though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Coin do you ever not view a game from a gambling/line perspective?

    Seriously man. Not everything is a conspiracy.
    let him go hes in retirement now

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Coin do you ever not view a game from a gambling/line perspective?

    Seriously man. Not everything is a conspiracy.
    Was that or was that not defensive holding? Serious question. I know you had a big bet on Carolina and the under so of course you're biased, but pretend you didn't for a minute.

    I never said "everything is a conspiracy." We're talking about this particular game and this particular play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mase of Base View Post
    It was an interception no matter what so not to much to complain about, NE would of got a play for free that they didn't really deserve. If that's what the refs talked about in their conference then it's all good.

    Ridiculous decision to tackle Gronk without the ball though.
    How do you figure they didn't "deserve" it?

    Was that not a textbook case of defensive holding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Was that or was that not defensive holding? Serious question. I know you had a big bet on Carolina and the under so of course you're biased, but pretend you didn't for a minute.

    I never said "everything is a conspiracy." We're talking about this particular game and this particular play.

    OK but you always have this kind of take on games. If you deny that then you aren't being honest.

    Anyways on to this particular situation. I said I got lucky. I think it was pass interference. Holding would have been fortunate but I would have called P.I. because the ball was already thrown.

    Now it would have been a brutal beat so unlucky at the same time but I am saying here just like I said in my thread - that was very lucky.

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    Even the head of officials said it was the right call.

    But.

    He could have been on the conspiracy, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    How do you figure they didn't "deserve" it?

    Was that not a textbook case of defensive holding?
    It was getting picked off no matter what went on with Gronk who ever that was defending (tackling) him. Isn't that like a PI on an uncatchable ball so no pass interference called?

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    Since when can you wrap both arms around a receiver and not get called for holding ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Even the head of officials said it was the right call.

    But.

    He could have been on the conspiracy, too.
    Numbnuts he has to back the refs.

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    cant be holding if ball is in the air, no?

    has to be catchable to be PI

    would have been a miraculous play to be catchable but it was possible....not like he launched it out of the end zone

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    Betting anything more than peanuts on these Primetime NFL games is...

    Like my man Tony Come says...

    CRAZY!!!

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    I had carolina, I hate brady, and that was a penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SplitAces View Post
    Numbnuts he has to back the refs.
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    It wasnt catchable because he was being held.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Even the head of officials said it was the right call.

    But.

    He could have been on the conspiracy, too.
    LOL, Giant. It's a call to end a MNF game. What do you think he's going to say? They botched it?

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    Rigged, when will gamblers get to their thick skull,when money is involved, shady shit happens

    just like the Hendricks/GSP fight, Jonhy boy whooped GSP ass

    Manny Pacquao/Tim Bradely, who won that fight

    Buster Douglas/ Tyson another fixed shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    OK but you always have this kind of take on games. If you deny that then you aren't being honest.
    Do you know what "always" means? It means always.

    Exaggerate much?

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    Mike Pereira is saying on twitter it should have been a penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bet10Heinekens View Post
    Buster Douglas/ Tyson another fixed shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Do you know what "always" means? It means always.

    Exaggerate much?

    Your line of thought it always in terms of a line perspective. You don't need to get defensive about it.

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    of course nfl has lots of shady calls, so does nba
    i will still bet it, but not much money
    if patriots were realistic in assessing their defensive performance they wouldn't have settled for a field goal the drive before, that's where they messed up
    i blame bellicheck

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Your line of thought it always in terms of a line perspective. You don't need to get defensive about it.
    Again, what does "always" mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SplitAces View Post
    Numbnuts he has to back the refs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Again, what does "always" mean?

    OK so you disagree. Fine. I don't feel like arguing about it.

    The ending had nothing to do with the line. Panthers backers are fortunate right now.

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    if the refs got all calls 100% of the time each game would take about 5 hours to finish. it wasn't really a blatant call unless you're 1. a patrios fan or 2. a paranoid better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post


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