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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Of course he is the public, but that doesn't mean he has to side with the public.

    New England closed at +3 (+105) at pinnacle vs. +1 (-105) at Bovada and the total was 46 or 47 with the public big on the over. I'm no math major, but I do know that flag was getting picked up there no matter what.
    no idea what that means.

    where do you keep getting your numbers from that you reference? the public was not on n. illinois the other night...the public was not "big" on the over.

    your theory worked perfectly tonight (bovada vs pinny) but how about all the times it doesn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    So you're saying that wasn't defensive holding?

    Because if that's true, defensive holding doesn't exist in football and should never be called.
    defensive holding ceases to exist once the ball leaves the QB's hand.

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    brady should have been given another down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaabee View Post
    ball was in the air. PI or nothing.
    So you can't call defensive holding once the ball is in the air?

    Well then it was PI. It had to be something.

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    Obvious penalty. Anyone who doesn't think so is just hating on the Patriots.

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    Bad throw by Brady. He needed more air under it and more toward the back of the end zone.

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    pass interference on pats to continue drive just a horrible call

    how do you call pass interference when the receiver from the thew panthers was clearly faking it. Just ab=n incredibly bad call to extend the drive for the panthers. Same thing with the 49ers. Calling roughing the passer when his arm was no where near his neck. We know who the NFL wants to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    no idea what that means.

    where do you keep getting your numbers from that you reference? the public was not on n. illinois the other night...the public was not "big" on the over.

    your theory worked perfectly tonight (bovada vs pinny) but how about all the times it doesn't?
    OK. How do you figure in either instance? I guess it depends on what you think is a favorable public bet, which to me is at least 65%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    So you can't call defensive holding once the ball is in the air?

    Well then it was PI. It had to be something.
    correct. they were going to call PI which would have been 1 yard line.

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    Shut the fuk up you got 3 sb cheating your fukin dick off.
    Quote Originally Posted by VegasInsider View Post
    It was PI!

    Gronk didn't have a chance to come back to the ball because Luke was bearhugging him.

    Total BS
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    ROFLMAO - Ray Lewis just said that rule is "if you intercept it, it's not PI"??? OMG, WTH? did he just say that? What rule book is he reading?

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    It's one thing to call uncatchable when a ball is too high for anyone to catch, but to guess that he couldn;t stop and come back to the ball requires too much prediction. What if he gets one hand on it and it tips up for a catch? That's not UNcatchable.

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    Clearly a penalty, but Pats lost the game on the prior drive, kicking the shit FG. Then, typical NE secondary, can't cover anyone in the final 2 minutes or make a tackle. Talib gets hurt again? Guy is real good, but can't stay on the field. And can ESPN get that Gerry Austin off the mic? He backs the refs call every single time. At least Perreria on Fox calls a bad call when he sees one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Dam Looker - You have a video editing room at the house? That was quicker than I take a shit.

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    Gruden is right for once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    So obviously not a penalty, the guy is in the process of intercepting the pass and Gronk is still running to the back of the endzone. Stupid we even have to hear about this shit now.

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    As Sarunas would say: nfl makes the sexual millks ons the face of patrots

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    Gronk was still trying to get to the back of the endzone, he wasn't trying to go forward and react to a ball thrown short

    Brady threw it a ton short

    maybe throw it to the back of the endzone and the flag would have not been picked up. my theory... on the retarded refs of the NFL from day to day they just call it how they want to

    oh well

    don't care

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    Exactly. How many times is a flag picked up on a play like that? Never.
    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    It's one thing to call uncatchable when a ball is too high for anyone to catch, but to guess that he couldn;t stop and come back to the ball requires too much prediction. What if he gets one hand on it and it tips up for a catch? That's not UNcatchable.

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    It goes both ways.

    Patriots did exactly the same thing to Gonzalez vs Falcons.

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    So I guess the linebacker is just allowed to put his hands on Gronkowski and that's not a penalty? How do you then pick it up though, when the guy in the endzone is the one who threw the flag?

    How about just f*ck off NFL. The word is out about how basically a career in the league is a death sentence for half of the players. League won't even be around in 20-30 years at this rate.

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    It was a tough no call at the end

    It was interference book but can he of caught it?

    Brady just doesn't have the players

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Gruber View Post
    So I guess the linebacker is just allowed to put his hands on Gronkowski and that's not a penalty? How do you then pick it up though, when the guy in the endzone is the one who threw the flag?
    Because the backjudge is watching the play and not the ball, the others refs convened and got it right.

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    jerry austin is clearly covering for the refs, his old buddies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    So obviously not a penalty, the guy is in the process of intercepting the pass and Gronk is still running to the back of the endzone. Stupid we even have to hear about this shit now.
    Exactly! He was running to the BACK of the endzone and when he sees the pass short and being incercepted he stops and it gives the illusion the defender is holding. Flag should not have been thrown.

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    so what happens when the balls goes right through the defenders hands in that situation, never touches(so its not tipped).. exactly why it is a penalty

    What are they going to say then: it was not catchable because he would have had to bend down and dive forward to catch it.
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    Still not as bad as the Jets beat.

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    how can gronk go back to the ball if he is being bearhugged? like there was a penalty on that play. either pass interference or defensive holding. you cant just pick that flag up after throwing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Slew View Post
    Clearly a penalty, but Pats lost the game on the prior drive, kicking the shit FG. Then, typical NE secondary, can't cover anyone in the final 2 minutes or make a tackle. Talib gets hurt again? Guy is real good, but can't stay on the field. And can ESPN get that Gerry Austin off the mic? He backs the refs call every single time. At least Perreria on Fox calls a bad call when he sees one.
    Im with you on that sequence. Pounding the ball all drive. Id rather go for the TD there as we have seen before how a Fg and the Patds D do not hold up. That is the spot you gamble.

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    It definitely was pass interference BUT I am glad they picked up the flag . Because the refs made me a winner. You have to be on the fixed side

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    ROFLMAO - Ray Lewis just said that rule is "if you intercept it, it's not PI"??? OMG, WTH? did he just say that? What rule book is he reading?
    Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, obviously.

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    Not even holding??? The guy was wrapping up Gronk like a present no wonder he couldn't move forword...



    What ever pick up a SMALL profit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    So obviously not a penalty, the guy is in the process of intercepting the pass and Gronk is still running to the back of the endzone. Stupid we even have to hear about this shit now.
    He's "running out of the back of the end zone"? LOL.

    Was he or was he not given a chance to try and come back to catch the ball?

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    If this game was in Foxborough do you think they pick up the flag?

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