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    20+ point dog will win outright Saturday

    Will release in a few hours need to finish betting first.

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    WV +12 could beat TCU. New Mex +14 has a punchers chance of winning straight up. The only long shot at +20, they are +19, that I see is Georgia St.

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    Hint it is not the U I am not stupid

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    Nevada?

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    Cal

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    Yea it's got to be Nevada

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    Will release in a few hours need to finish betting first.
    Well, me and my bankroll certainly hope you aren't talking N. Illinois! (Plus they have a nice 1st quarter lead so while the cover could go either way, I just don't see UMass winning outright)

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    No not Nevada Fresno can throw on them at will. Hawaii wins outright at Utah St. as a 24 point dog I think.

    Interesting stat over the last 201 minutes of football Hawaii has outscored their opponents 126-111. They ran off 34 straight vs. Fresno to nearly win and then lost 3 close games after that.

    Hawaii is a lot stronger in this game than their 0-7 record suggests. First of all they have not lost a game by more than 22 points all year so just that makes this spread very strange. Also they have had ridiculous bad QB play from everyone but Schroeder skewing their stats

    Sean Schroeder 113 198 1486 57.1 7.51 13 8 133.7
    Taylor Graham 38 83 417 45.8 5.02 2 5 83.9
    Ikaika Woolsey 10 28 141 35.7 5.04 0 3 56.6
    Jeremy Higgins 5 11 51 45.5 4.64 0 0 84.4

    Hawaii averaged only 12 points in the 3 games where Schroeder played less than a half due to not starting or getting injured(Nevada game), and they have scored 32 a game the last 4 games where he has gone the whole way.

    Another xfactor is senior tailback Joey Iosefa who has been hurt the whole year(2 carries) is back. He is a big guy and a veteran and will be huge in moving the chains in short yardage due to his power and also will help as a 3rd down back in the passing game. Hawaii also has gotten healthy on the defensive line in the middles of the year they were literally out of defensive tackles but now they are at full strength. Utah St. a couple minor injuries to a starting TE and 2nd string RB.

    Of course Utah St. suffered a huge injury loss about a month ago of star QB Chuckie Keeton. The guy they are going with right now has only started one game in his career (true fr.) He has done nothing with his feet this year -3 rushing yards so I am skeptical how well he can run their spread offense with his lack of experience I doubt he will light it up throwing the ball even against Hawaii.

    Keeton is one of the best in the country, yes the books know he is out but I still think Utah St. is getting too much credit for what he did
    Chuckie Keeton 136 196 1388 69.4 7.08 18 2 157.1



    The huge spread should also benefit Hawaii in this spot I think they will feel disrespected because they have been playing decent of late and may be a letdown for Utah St. thinking this is an easy game.

    Now the one problem is Utah St. is a good defensive team and Hawaii is not going to put up 35+ points but they should be able to move the chains and Utah St. could be shaky/conservative on offense here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    No not Nevada Fresno can throw on them at will. Hawaii wins outright at Utah St. as a 24 point dog I think.

    Interesting stat over the last 201 minutes of football Hawaii has outscored their opponents 126-111. They ran off 34 straight vs. Fresno to nearly win and then lost 3 close games after that.

    Hawaii is a lot stronger in this game than their 0-7 record suggests. First of all they have not lost a game by more than 22 points all year so just that makes this spread very strange. Also they have had ridiculous bad QB play from everyone but Schroeder skewing their stats

    Sean Schroeder 113 198 1486 57.1 7.51 13 8 133.7
    Taylor Graham 38 83 417 45.8 5.02 2 5 83.9
    Ikaika Woolsey 10 28 141 35.7 5.04 3 56.6
    Jeremy Higgins 5 11 51 45.5 4.64 84.4

    Hawaii averaged only 12 points in the 3 games where Schroeder played less than a half due to not starting or getting injured(Nevada game), and they have scored 32 a game the last 4 games where he has gone the whole way.

    Another xfactor is senior tailback Joey Iosefa who has been hurt the whole year(2 carries) is back. He is a big guy and a veteran and will be huge in moving the chains in short yardage due to his power and also will help as a 3rd down back in the passing game. Hawaii also has gotten healthy on the defensive line in the middles of the year they were literally out of defensive tackles but now they are at full strength. Utah St. a couple minor injuries to a starting TE and 2nd string RB.

    Of course Utah St. suffered a huge injury loss about a month ago of star QB Chuckie Keeton. The guy they are going with right now has only started one game in his career (true fr.) He has done nothing with his feet this year -3 rushing yards so I am skeptical how well he can run their spread offense with his lack of experience I doubt he will light it up throwing the ball even against Hawaii.

    Keeton is one of the best in the country, yes the books know he is out but I still think Utah St. is getting too much credit for what he did
    Chuckie Keeton 136 196 1388 69.4 7.08 18 2 157.1



    The huge spread should also benefit Hawaii in this spot I think they will feel disrespected because they have been playing decent of late and may be a letdown for Utah St. thinking this is an easy game.

    Now the one problem is Utah St. is a good defensive team and Hawaii is not going to put up 35+ points but they should be able to move the chains and Utah St. could be shaky/conservative on offense here.
    Are you high ?

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    You really think Utah St. is much better than Fresno, San Jose, UNLV, and CSU? This is not a mismatch pal if Hawaii protects the ball they win

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    certainly question how aggies get motivated to play this game for sure.

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    Pretty sure RM18 has more than enough credibility here to release a +24 dog to win outright and not get blasted. Guy picks winners.

    Maybe they win, maybe not. Maybe you agree, maybe not. But gotta respect him for recent and past contributions.

    Not many I'd tail before him.

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    I like Hawaii, line seems to high. Only problem is Im not sure how Utah St will be on offense, was shit without Keeton against BYU and Boise but then destroyed NMx

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    Listening to radio they are talking about rotating QBs that could be bad Schroeder is a senior so looking at next year a little? I guess Graham did actually get some snaps last week even though Schroeder had 49 att. Hopefully Hawaii gets up and does not want to get play anyone else except maybe a little wildcat shit.

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    i was feeling over 52 a bit

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    Fukkin Hawaii DB dropped a pick 6 on first drive then they get a TD later, huge swing 10-3 USU

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    Hawaii might be worst coached team of all times, 2 15 yard penalties then they play two snaps in a row with 10 guys on the field

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    Missed obvious pass interference call cost me some points maybe would of been a TD this is getting ugly.

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    Gambling really does kill. Poor guy has to spend his Saturday watching a Hawaii Utah st football game.
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    Didn't Hawaii's flights into Utah get screwed up by the LAX shooting? Thought I heard they didn't get into Utah til late last night

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    Looks like the refs didn't get the memo about 20+ point dog winning outright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etothep View Post
    Didn't Hawaii's flights into Utah get screwed up by the LAX shooting? Thought I heard they didn't get into Utah til late last night
    Yes..they also lost 5 hrs due to eastward flight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etothep View Post
    Didn't Hawaii's flights into Utah get screwed up by the LAX shooting? Thought I heard they didn't get into Utah til late last night
    yeh like 2:30 am, did not think it was a big factor, had some tough breaks and Utah St. has been ridiculous converting 3rd downs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Yes..they also lost 5 hrs due to eastward flight.
    3 the game is in Utah not Atlanta

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    3 the game is in Utah not Atlanta
    I added the 2 hrs they were circling around LAX and couldn't land.

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    New Mexico St is up 14-0 as a 32.5 point dog lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruins35 View Post
    Are you high ?
    yes crack

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    A lot of fluke plays I am on tilt might do a venditto chase system on Hawaii ML

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayc88 View Post
    New Mexico St is up 14-0 as a 32.5 point dog lol
    this game is making me sick 28-7 NMSU

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    I believe I heard if Miami beats Florida state they would be the biggest underdog to win outright all season..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    this game is making me sick 28-7 NMSU
    i'm on lafayette -32

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    Lafayette is one the most run heavy teams in the country they might be in serious trouble if they do not make it closer soon

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