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    Quote Originally Posted by Let's Go Rangers View Post
    The Hillary - Christie debate would be fascinating.

    Behind one podium would be a fat candidate with a poorly fitted suit and manly features

    Behind the other podium would be Chris Christie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUHerd37 View Post
    obama created more debt in 4 years than bush did in 8. I am no fan of bush either. Obama fukkin growing the government bigger as well. Not to mention Obama's attacks on American's rights.
    Not really. Only people who fail to understand basic math and to use critical thinking when applying basic math concepts think this as a truth.

    Bush came in with a surplus. Obama came in with an interest payment on Bush's money that is more than the conceivable amount of paying for Bush's debt.

    There are a ton of ways to knock Obama, his handling of the economy and national debt is not one of them. C'mon.

    Obama's offenses against this country are greater than this myopic lie of his mishandling of our money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    Not really. Only people who fail to understand basic math and to use critical thinking when applying basic math concepts think this as a truth.

    Bush came in with a surplus. Obama came in with an interest payment on Bush's money that is more than the conceivable amount of paying for Bush's debt.

    There are a ton of ways to knock Obama, his handling of the economy and national debt is not one of them. C'mon.

    Obama's offenses against this country are greater than this myopic lie of his mishandling of our money.
    Yet the Congress of which Obama was part of is the ones who write the spending bills. The real funny part is most of you guys still think there is a difference between Rs and Ds.

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    Doesn't matter who the President is. They will keep spending like they do now. Every President since Roosevelt regardless of party has been spending like there is no tomorrow. They only difference is where they spend it. Republicans spend it on useless military programs and Democrats spend it on useless social programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    If I had a safe I would put my 5k in it instead of the bank. The CHAOZ hit the nail on the head in his post. The bulk of future voters will be poor and middle class people as gap widening from them and minority rich.
    Put it in digital crypto currency pal...

    Even if it tanks it will still be more +EV than investing in traditional currency longterm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelRain View Post
    He has diabetes or is least pre-diabetic

    You can't get that fat and have your pancreas still working, it just can't handle that type of workload
    I know his doctor, he's actually in pretty decent shape for a fat guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUHerd37 View Post
    Guy is basically a Democrat. What Republican ideas has he instituted in New Jersey???
    Very anti-union, he's aggressively gone after the teacher's union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpBoxing View Post
    I hope Rand Paul gets the republican nomination.

    Like somebody said earlier, Christie is basicaly a democrat
    No he's really not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    I'd personally rather lose again than cart out someone who continues the swirl down the drain.

    We are $17 trillion in debt and adding .5 trillion every year. Govt revenues are just $2.5 trillion. Taxes are already suffocatingly high. Eventually we will elect, either by choice or in desperation, a president who will stop buying votes and slice spending. We are a couple of upticks away on interests rates to cause the interest payments on that $17 trillion debt from burying us permanently. For now just buy gold.
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    Hmmm...Vote for Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum.

    So sad but it's over...
    The late, great USofA has seen the great sunami of wealth and power
    crest and fall.
    Out of all of civilization...We were the lucky few to ride that great western wave.

    All hail neo-global corporate rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy117 View Post
    Very anti-union, he's aggressively gone after the teacher's union.
    So he wants to make kids even dumber than what they are now??

    Yeah, good move

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy117 View Post
    Very anti-union, he's aggressively gone after the teacher's union.
    Lets go after the teacher's union who make minimum wage with no benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Lets go after the teacher's union who make minimum wage with no benefits.
    Exactly. Its not like they have almost no incentive to be better teachers to begin with...

    Go after the most defenceless. What a gutless pos...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy117 View Post
    Very anti-union, he's aggressively gone after the teacher's union.
    That will be his downfall...

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    Christie really the only chance at all for Republicans.....If they go with a standard Republican they will get absolutely smoked

    Hope he gets the nomination as he actually uses common sense and doesn't bow down to a bullshit party....Can respect that

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Lets go after the teacher's union who make minimum wage with no benefits.
    Teachers in NJ don't make minimum wage. They get paid well and have awesome benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy117 View Post
    Teachers in NJ don't make minimum wage. They get paid well and have awesome benefits.
    Yeah they are just a step below Wall Street bankers in wages and benefits. Most of them have beach houses at the Hamptons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy117 View Post
    Teachers in NJ don't make minimum wage. They get paid well and have awesome benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarvol View Post
    Yet the Congress of which Obama was part of is the ones who write the spending bills. The real funny part is most of you guys still think there is a difference between Rs and Ds.

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    Those who can't.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Lets go after the teacher's union who make minimum wage with no benefits.
    Interesting definition of "minimum wage" you got there. Not bad for working 180 days per year. According to the NEA websiteTop 10 Beginning Teacher Salaries
    1. New Jersey $44, 872

    Top 10 Average Teacher Salaries
    5. New Jersey $63,111
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Yeah they are just a step below Wall Street bankers in wages and benefits. Most of them have beach houses at the Hamptons.
    I never said they're rich, they're well paid compared to other states:
    http://www.nea.org/home/38465.htm

    Top 10 Beginning Teacher Salaries
    1. New Jersey $44, 872
    2. Hawaii $43,157
    3. District of Columbia $42,370
    4. Maryland $42,297
    5. California $41,181
    6. New York $41, 079
    7. Wyoming $40,658
    8. Connecticut $40,086
    9. Alaska $39,032
    10. Massachusetts $38,570

    Top 10 Average Teacher Salaries
    1. New York $69,118
    2. California $68,093
    3. Massachusetts $66,712
    4. Connecticut $63,152
    5. New Jersey $63,111
    6. Maryland $62,849
    7. District of Columbia $62,557
    8. Illinois $61,344
    9. Rhode Island $58,407
    10. Alaska $58,395

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    Don't tell Coochy. He's got this all figured out. Sharp as a tack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by I/O View Post
    Don't tell Coochy. He's got this all figured out. Sharp as a tack.

    That's still not enough for the stress they have to endure in teaching your little brats

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    I hope the GOP runs some combination of Rubio/Ryan/any Bush/Romney/McCain so that they get the result that they have earned and so very much deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I/O View Post
    Those who can't.............

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    Tea Party needs to relent to having a moderate in the presidency. No other way they can get Republican in there. They need to focus getting their candidates into House/Senate elections in states that traditionally vote more conservative.

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    If the election were tomorrow Christie would have my vote. Sadly by the time he comes out of the GOP primaries, if he does, he'll be a comletely different politician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy117 View Post
    I never said they're rich, they're well paid compared to other states:
    http://www.nea.org/home/38465.htm

    Top 10 Beginning Teacher Salaries
    1. New Jersey $44, 872
    2. Hawaii $43,157
    3. District of Columbia $42,370
    4. Maryland $42,297
    5. California $41,181
    6. New York $41, 079
    7. Wyoming $40,658
    8. Connecticut $40,086
    9. Alaska $39,032
    10. Massachusetts $38,570

    Top 10 Average Teacher Salaries
    1. New York $69,118
    2. California $68,093
    3. Massachusetts $66,712
    4. Connecticut $63,152
    5. New Jersey $63,111
    6. Maryland $62,849
    7. District of Columbia $62,557
    8. Illinois $61,344
    9. Rhode Island $58,407
    10. Alaska $58,395
    Aren't salaries compared to cost of living in a state? What's the mean price of a house in New York compared to a house in South Dakota?

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    Tough to figure who Christie would pick as a running mate? I think he says F the tea guys let me get a thin looker type who knows something. Ryan may actually be a good choice. He is a budget specialists and that will probably be the biggest issue.

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    You know what thedifference is between teachers and teachers union?
    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    So he wants to make kids even dumber than what they are now??

    Yeah, good move

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Doesn't matter who the President is. They will keep spending like they do now. Every President since Roosevelt regardless of party has been spending like there is no tomorrow. They only difference is where they spend it. Republicans spend it on useless military programs and Democrats spend it on useless social programs.
    That's why you need a fiscally conservative legislature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy117 View Post
    I never said they're rich, they're well paid compared to other states:
    http://www.nea.org/home/38465.htm

    Top 10 Beginning Teacher Salaries
    1. New Jersey $44, 872
    2. Hawaii $43,157
    3. District of Columbia $42,370
    4. Maryland $42,297
    5. California $41,181
    6. New York $41, 079
    7. Wyoming $40,658
    8. Connecticut $40,086
    9. Alaska $39,032
    10. Massachusetts $38,570

    Top 10 Average Teacher Salaries
    1. New York $69,118
    2. California $68,093
    3. Massachusetts $66,712
    4. Connecticut $63,152
    5. New Jersey $63,111
    6. Maryland $62,849
    7. District of Columbia $62,557
    8. Illinois $61,344
    9. Rhode Island $58,407
    10. Alaska $58,395
    That is incredible. These people work on average 75% of the year and make an average salary of 70K and yes, there are teachers that make 100K plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Gold View Post
    That is incredible. These people work on average 75% of the year and make an average salary of 70K and yes, there are teachers that make 100K plus.
    So the problem is to go after the teacher's union to reduce their salaries? Then all the good teachers in public schools will go to private schools and this country will still be producing dumb voters for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    You mean like inheriting 13 trillion worth of debt worse??

    Yeah, can accomplish alot when your that deep in the hole to begin with...
    Obama inherited 10 TRILLION worth of debt which took over 230 years to accomplish (NOT 13 as you're claiming). However, you defend Obama for raising that debt by 7 TRILLION in a little over 4 years. THAT MAKES YOU A HYPOCRITE which is the first amendment of the democratic party. Regarding nominating Christie in 2016, that would be a huge mistake. The republican party has to STOP nominating wishy-washy RINOS and find the most conservative candidate they can who is able to accurately articulate why the democratic party is destroying this country. That is the only chance the GOP has.
    Last edited by andywend; 11-08-13 at 04:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andywend View Post
    Obama inherited 10 TRILLION worth of debt which took over 230 years to accomplish (NOT 13 as you're claiming). However, you defend Obama for raising that debt by 7 TRILLION in a little over 4 years. THAT MAKES YOU A HYPOCRITE which is the first amendment of the democratic party. Regarding nominating Christie in 2016, that would be a huge mistake. The republican party has to STOP nominating wishy-washy RINOS and find the most conservative candidate they can who is able to accurately articulate why the democratic party is destroying this country. That is the only chance the GOP has.
    Where is Christie wishy-washy?

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