[Doug]

Update on checks, for those that are waiting: I, like many others, got an email on Thurs morning saying my check had been sent out; however, DHL has no record of a shipment coming to me, and when I tried to get a tracking number and confirm that the check had been sent, CS told me that their computer system showed that my check was still pending, and would be sent out in a day or two. He also said that my request to break up the check into 3 checks of $2K each had not been heeded, because they wanted to save processing money by sending it out as one big $6K check. I theorize that this may be why my check hasn't actually been sent, since DHL has a $2K limit on checks...

In any case, I would say that I am more hopeful than a week ago that I will get paid, but it would be great to actually see the $. Moreover, those who are waiting for checks, be aware that the emails saying "sent" may not necessarily be true. (Much like everything else, of course.)

DHL issues checks ? I thought they just deliver packages.

[ShamsWoof10]

No they deliver envelope/letters too... I was wondering how DHL would have a 2K limit since they likely don't know what is in there..? just wondering..?

[DrunkenLullaby]

I know this much. I have been SCREWED out of hours of my life trying to stay on top of this bullshit situation.

[catalina]

They told me Thursday they were working on the backlog of THIS weeks checks and my withdrawal (middle of March) could take up to three weeks. By the way, Hollywood said this week to me they are licensed in Antigua. I made a complaint with Antigua's Directorate of Offshore Gaming and they replied Hollywood was NOT licensed in Antigua. By the way, that website lists casinos, sportsbooks that ARE licensed and were very quick to reply to my complaint. My next company I will pick from their list of licensed companies!! Best of luck to us all!!! -Charles

[ShamsWoof10]

I know this much. I have been SCREWED out of hours of my life trying to stay on top of this bullshit situation.

I imagine this isn't the only experience you can say that about... I also think a lot of the bullsh*t was self inflicting... I personally don't believe any of our calls or chats did a thing to help speed the process... Mine will be here Monday and I let everyone else do that calling, chatting, and hassling but if I would have done it would it have gotten my money to me any faster...? My guess is NO!

Hey Charles can you provide us with that list?

[catalina]

Sorry, here is the link to the website:

http://www.antiguagaming.gov.ag/licensees%20active.asp

[DrunkenLullaby]

Oh goody! BOS is on that list. Now I can feel even safer that they will eventually pay me...

[ShamsWoof10]

excellent link.. THANKS!!! This is what I was talking about when I said I look in on this thread for other useful things.. I never did say BOS will pay but I do not know either... I am hopeful for you and glad to see they are on the list for your sake... GLuck Drunkkin

[sungus77]

sticks and stones. fact is they did lie to me. they told me definitely i would receive my money by a certain time. then they did not deliver. that in and of itself is screwing me.

answer me this, in all your stupid anecdotes of businesses doing the same thing, has it ever involved:

1. the vast sums of money we are talking about? nearly 100k for some?

2. a flat out illegal activity for which there may or may not be recourse thru the legal system or credit card chargebacks?

my guess would be no. so this is entirely different and your past experiences don't matter for shite.

after reading your past posts, our positions regarding the payouts are not that different. i thought we would probably be paid, and it worked out that we were (to a small degree). i never pretended to know what was going to happen. that is why i am relying on what the reps at SB tell me. we are all in the same boat. i'm fairly certain that you will receive your DHL check (which by the way, i was the first to receive and report) but i am curious if you get the full amount by DHL. that is what the purpose of this board is in my opinion. sharing information but i guess i was more tactful than you in refraining from ad hominem attacks.

[Ralph Martin]

without any question they will pay us all. And how could you possibly say how can we even think like that.

I'll tell you how: Action Sports and Best Bet and most importantly, Aces Gold/Sports Market. Just a few of the books I got screwed at in my life.

Can you possibly tell me that Sports Market was held in less high regard than is Sportsbook.com. That book was supposed to be solid as solid can be, and they too were not exempt from taking the money and running.

I've been promised 20 things that didn't come true at Sportsbook.com in the last 5 weeks. If I am not to worry now, then tell exactly what point I should become a little concerned. I've got 7 g's tied up with them and unfortunately I invested 9 g's of my own money to get it.

I'm not talking about some big profit here, I'm talking about just getting a percentage of my money back, which unfortunately put me in a big financial hole because unlike the old days when I could take a hit and shrug it off, now 7 g's is a ton of money to me.

Please Shamswolf, if you do indeed get your money by DHL Monday, please post it here and let us know when you ordered it, if they put it back in your account, etc. and any other nuggets of info that may help those of us who have not got paid. Thanks.

-Ralph

[sungus77]

ralph,

i dont think anyone can tell you with 100% certainty, but i think there are good signs we will get paid eventually:

1. i personally received a check and others got their wire transfers, so they are at least paying people at some level;

2. they are still receiving phone calls and trying provide some semblance of customer service (although i think they are failing miserably or failed miserably by providing information they could not guarantee to be true);

3. even the A+ rated sportsbooks, e.g., wsex, are having delays in processing payouts.

I admit it is not awe-inspiring, but progress has been made in the right direction. hopefully, next week will ease all our concerns.

[ShamsWoof10]

Not a 100K but Riddell does this sh*t to me all the time and EACH helmet is $125 without decals, masks yada yada and incase you are assuming NO I don't do just one or ten helmets at a time it much more so not a 100K but enough....
Lastly you screwed me... You said you were not going to read or reply anymore to my posts DIPSH*T and you lied to me so by your definition lying is screwing so you screwed me and probably do that all the time to people...

[ShamsWoof10]

ralph,

i dont think anyone can tell you with 100% certainty, but i think there are good signs we will get paid eventually:

1. i personally received a check and others got their wire transfers, so they are at least paying people at some level;

2. they are still receiving phone calls and trying provide some semblance of customer service (although i think they are failing miserably or failed miserably by providing information they could not guarantee to be true);

3. even the A+ rated sportsbooks, e.g., wsex, are having delays in processing payouts.

I admit it is not awe-inspiring, but progress has been made in the right direction. hopefully, next week will ease all our concerns.

he saved me the work... thanks

[marc]

Guys,

Just as a reminder, we know two things about these processors. 1) they are slow and disorganized 2) THey can call Jazette at any time and say sorry we can't process checks or wires for you an more.

Until you actually have money in hand, don't assume for a minute you are going to be paid anytime soon. Back in february I requested 2 checks 2 days apart. The first check I got, the second one I am still waiting on. That is how quick things can stop. Jazettes relationship with SP only lasted a week. DOn't kid yourselves, we aren't out of the woods yet.

[stylibet]

Why don't you stop putting words in my and sportsbook's mouth... I never said that was my best example as I have MANY... This one is just still pending is all.... I have examples with remotes, shoes, clothes, computer hardware...ETC. Again as I stated above unless it effect you it doesn't matter that is why you ignore my pending DVD.. My point on the DVD YOU STUPID F*CK!!! is legitamate businesses do things like sportsbooik... You are assuming they lied when in reality THEY MIGHT have had a processor and there could have been a hundred things that could have went wrong with the processors proceedings and not sportsbook's.... I am not saying it did but I am saying you simply DO NOT KNOW and stop acting like you do... Furthermore I check this thread because I want to see what else comes up in here... There are usually interesting points that come up about sportsbook or even non related topics and after looking back you didn't post sh*t either that helped... Since you are stupid I'll make it clear what my stance has been the whole time and that is to not let fear lead you to an impulsive or bad decision... Is that clear enough for you dumba**? I also understand that you run around your definition of "screwed"... There is no bullsh*t about kinda got screwed.. You either did or did not yet there is no kinda to try and fit your pathetic point...

Why do you have to talk like a putz to get your point across? What does their processor have to do with telling us lies? If sportsbook would have said we are having trouble with our processor and it may take a month or two to send out your withdrawal then people would be more understanding. At least a timeline would have been set. But the way theyve handled this they are certainly going to lose a huge percentage of their business so that makes you question whether they are going to payout at all.

[stylibet]

so... taking our bets, acknowlegding winning bets, allowing us to withdraw, but then keeping money that is owed to us, lying about estimated timeframes of transfer, selectively sending out very small amounts (and not even being accurate about those times and methods) all the while continuing to take more action with ABSOLUTELY NO WARNING on their website unlike industry leaders and competitors is what? doing us a favor? that is the very definition of SCREWING US. i didn't write "screwing us out of our money." i am one of the few that has actually seen money from these guys, but i still have the vast bulk of my funds tied up.

but in a way they are screwing us out of money. are you familiar with the time value of money? the longer they keep it, the more it does cost us in not only interest charges, but lost opportunity of what i could do with it, stocks, bonds, CDs. so in a way they are screwing us out of money, just not in the way you probably think.

but really, what is your point? to tell people not to worry? you check this thread, which is entitled sportsbook withdrawal delay, and rant about how we are overreacting and whining and ASSSSSUMING whatever. by checking this thread you realize there is a problem. if it annoys you so much then quit reading and quit following. i am not opposed to following this thread because most of the posters seem to genuinely want to help others either get some answers from SB or take alternative action, or just hear from others when funds have arrived. what do you bring to the table? what do you offer? absolutely nothing but insults and disingenuous posts. "wait for your money" and "youll get paid when you get paid?" thanks for nothing.

What do you expect from somebody named SHAM . The guy apparently has no concept of the situation. Hell, Im sure a large percentage of people with money tied up in sportsbook have already lost it wagering silly bets since they never thought sportsbook is gonna pay. That may be what sportsbook is waiting for. Let the keyboard warrior keep foaming at the mouth since he apparently cant accomplish much else. And I find it very interesting that TRUN deleted his initial posts. There is something weird about that. Maybe the sportsbook rep that TRUN has a platinum line to told him that if he deleted his posts then his money would be sent. Not saying I wouldnt do the same if I was in your position TRUN. Just find it weird.

[ShamsWoof10]

Why do you have to talk like a putz to get your point across? What does their processor have to do with telling us lies? If sportsbook would have said we are having trouble with our processor and it may take a month or two to send out your withdrawal then people would be more understanding. At least a timeline would have been set. But the way theyve handled this they are certainly going to lose a huge percentage of their business so that makes you question whether they are going to payout at all.

First off it's stupid posts like this that make me rant... Thanks aba30 I like that one "rant".. How in F*ck can you say (Styl) some of the things you say..? What "IF" sportsbook has to maintain their deposits and overall business to pay your stupid as*.? If they told you "hey we have to do these business practices so people don't stop depositing and more importantly people don't panic and take everything out SO YOU CAN GET PAID AS*HOLE?" Would you be ok with it then..? If they imposed your policy and lost money so they couldn't pay your as* would you be ok with the honest policy..? In so many words they did say that's what they needed to do and when they do give a longer timeline you make it sound like everyone just says ok that's the truth now we are relieved... Read this thread you stupid F*CK that is NOT what is happening... Here is ONE example... They said last week small amounts will be going out first and the larger ones will go out soon after... The smaller amounts are showing up... The people's response is STILL "hey I got this check but where my bigger one..? "

[ShamsWoof10]

Im sure a large percentage of people with money tied up in sportsbook have already lost it wagering silly bets since they never thought sportsbook is gonna pay. That may be what sportsbook is waiting for. Let the keyboard warrior keep foaming at the mouth since he apparently cant accomplish much else. And I find it very interesting that TRUN deleted his initial posts. There is something weird about that. Maybe the sportsbook rep that TRUN has a platinum line to told him that if he deleted his posts then his money would be sent. Not saying I wouldnt do the same if I was in your position TRUN. Just find it weird.

Doing things like this out of fear thinking that you are not getting your money is EXACTLY what I have been posting against... I have been through this before with 27K three years ago and my impatience cost me a lot of hassle...

[jwander]

Has anyone tried to contest their cc charges? I'm fed up and I'm not going to wait until the time has elapsed for me to contest the charges...my bet is that I'm never going to see the money...

[ShamsWoof10]

I still wouldn't recomand it yet but if you feel you must there have been people on this board and this thread who have done it with success... I suggest you read back in this thread and PM those who have stated they have had success if your questions are not answered reading back through it...

Good Luck

[ModernManshustle]

things are looking better, hopefully more and more get paid this coming week.

I don't get why everyone is so furious with sportsbook, if it wasn't for the fking conservative moral police like senator Frist, none of this would have happened, this happened because of legislation that was passed by our representatives, and not even debated at that, just attached on at the last minute to the port security bill- land of the free... right!

Sure sb lied and so on to buy time, but it's also quite possible that initial new processors backed out, or that the processors gave them a timeframe and are taking longer then sb was told ect...

Also im ok with them lying to some degree, if it prevents more chaos and the collapse of the site, meaning nobody gets paid. Obviously, it would have been nice if they said from the start that it would likely be 1 to 2 month delay

[ShamsWoof10]

Sure sb lied and so on to buy time, but it's also quite possible that initial new processors backed out, or that the processors gave them a timeframe and are taking longer then sb was told ect...

Also im ok with them lying to some degree, if it prevents more chaos and the collapse of the site, meaning nobody gets paid. Obviously, it would have been nice if they said from the start that it would likely be 1 to 2 month delay

Thank you very much sir... Saves me a lot of time because I will save this post and paste it next time I want to restate my point when asked again... Running a small business I understand that they might not have known at the beginning it was going to be that long and things happened on the fly so even the truth to customers might even sound like a lie... Either way thanks for the post...

[ladodgers1980]

ShamsWoof,
So who did you buy this dvd from? Was it an online merchant? If so, did you know it's illegal to charge a customer's credit card until the product ships?

Nobody said no businesses do the bs that sportsbook has pulled, of course situations like this happen, but that doesn't make it right. Most companies who do crap like this don't have many loyal customers. I said, it's a horrible way of doing business and in the end its going to hurt sportsbook even more. In the examples you have provided, are you happy with the situation? I'm guessing not, and as a customer anyone has a right to complain.

I think its real hypocritical to get angered by people who are complaining on this forum, while you're sitting their posting multiple messages bashing people and complaining about other people. Who cares, its their money, their right to complain. For the situation that was handed to them, they have a right to complain and not trust sports book. They are dealing with the unknown (which is to an extent their own fault-since they took a risk w/ using an offshore sportsbook) and people are genuinely worried that they might not get their money.

Are you going to continue to use sportsbook after this? And honestly, after the way this situation was handled, do you really think most of these customers will come back to using sportsbook? I'd say most of these people have had enough w/ sportsbook and after they get there money, they'll never deal w/ sportsbook again. y mBased on this, I think it will be pretty obvious that they made a mistake in the way they handled this unfortunate situation.

[iq8w7ht]

Further update on checks ... talked with a supervisor who said that despite the email saying it was sent, my check had not actually gone out. She claimed it was slated for the next batch, and blamed the misleading (arguably dishonest) nature of the your check has been sent email on computer system difficulties. (conceivably true, but that doesn't help their credibility at all.) She asked me to check back in a couple days for another update. So, we're hardly out of the woods yet, and definitely don't believe your check is sent until you actually are tracking it -- or better yet, until you actually receive it. Also, CS I guess hasn't been told who processes checks or whether checks are actually sent as promised, hence they may tell you that the system is slow to update. In short, another case of the right hand not knowing what the rest of the body is doing. I'm still cautiously optimistic, mind you, but I think it'd be foolish not to still have serious concerns given the apparent issues they are having working with their new processor(s) and the low volume of w/drawals they can actually send out.

[DrunkenLullaby]

You can worry. As for me, I'm turning over a new leaf thanks to Shams' pearls of wisdom. In fact, I'm gonna go check my mailbox right now for my BetPanAm check. Supposed to be here any day now.....oh, darn, it's Sunday....guess not.

[artofagression]

I too have felt the wrath of Sportsbook, I have money that I may not receive, but lets be honest here - Sportsbook, as shady and as incredulous as this is, is not fleeing with our money. If they wanted to do that they wouldve closed down their doors a long time ago. Now their may be an ulterior motive at hand (i.e. collecting interest off of this tied-up money) but I SERIOUSLY doubt that any of us are ultimately getting stiffed. Neteller has done the same exact thing to many of us yet we seem to have the utmost assurance that they will pay. I would venture to say that I will see my SB money before I see my Neteller money.....

[stiffedandburned]

Does anybody know if Trun took a long walk off a short pier???

[fartikacular]

ok guys, my withdrawal of 12k was sent March 20th via wire... hopefully this is the week..

anybody else have withdrawals in the same time frame as me???

[apaulius]

i see all these comparisons to neteller you have to remember neteller was a processor tihis is just the book, their job is not to send out payments etc.. so its completely different. just a little wisdom

[jwander]

Now their may be an ulterior motive at hand.....

Yeah, like collecting as much money as they can during March madness and then closing up shop!

[Doug]

I'm cynical... I expect the current processor to encounter furthur problems, and furthur delays.

I am not owed by SB.com, dodged that bullet, sincerely wish y'all the best, but expect less.

[jstblaze]

but expect less?

you get people worked up like earlier when a bunch of people started to charge back.

not saying expect you rmoney, but at this point you dotn need to be negative, what good does that do.

[artofagression]

All I am saying is that Sportsbook's problem has risen from many processers being prohibited to provide service. I am in no way a Sportbook apologist and Sportsbook didnt have their ducks in a row regarding this issue, but I really do think that we will all, in due time (whenever that may be), get paid. Its just shitty how they chose to approach this matter, by lying to us repeatedly. But in the end we WILL get paid (I need to think this way for my own good, too)

[stylibet]

First off it's stupid posts like this that make me rant... Thanks aba30 I like that one "rant".. How in F*ck can you say (Styl) some of the things you say..? What "IF" sportsbook has to maintain their deposits and overall business to pay your stupid as*.? If they told you "hey we have to do these business practices so people don't stop depositing and more importantly people don't panic and take everything out SO YOU CAN GET PAID AS*HOLE?" Would you be ok with it then..? If they imposed your policy and lost money so they couldn't pay your as* would you be ok with the honest policy..? In so many words they did say that's what they needed to do and when they do give a longer timeline you make it sound like everyone just says ok that's the truth now we are relieved... Read this thread you stupid F*CK that is NOT what is happening... Here is ONE example... They said last week small amounts will be going out first and the larger ones will go out soon after... The smaller amounts are showing up... The people's response is STILL "hey I got this check but where my bigger one..? "

sssshhhh, speak when spoken to . However, I will lower myself and reply to your ignorant @ss. For one thing youre contradicting yourself. But of course youre feeble little brain cant contain much information. How are people going to "TAKE EVERYTHING OUT" when sportsbook hasnt paid a withdrawal in 2 months? And whats gonna happen when or if people can finally make a withdrawal? You dont think everybody is going to take their money out? Come on ol stupid @ss, inform us. And if sportsbook requires deposits to initiate withdrawals after being around since 1997 then something is wrong, no? Come on ol stupid @ss, inform us. This isnt the social security administration. If they "imposed my policy" then it still would be the same because they havent paid anything out.

[MaryJane]

Did a wire through betonusa and it was sent out the 28th they say...they told me 7-10 then 10-15 days...I withdrew by check way back at the end of Feb. and have since switched to a wire since they weren't processing checks at the time...all in all, it's been 33 days since my first request of any method...not good...