Originally Posted by
jonshields
Regarding challenging the credit card charges, I would strongly advise against doing that until this is resolved. I am an attorney and I know that by signing a release statement to the credit card you maybe liable for fraud yourself, particularly if we get our money by this weekend and they did pay up, yet you signed a statement saying they had confiscated your money or whatever.
Also, what I fear a lot of these ************ will do is not grant the chargebacks based on the fact that our activity was illegal (i.e. gambling) under the Port Security Act and maybe before it. The fact that the banks authorized the charges is muddy legally cause they may not have "known" 100% who they were sending it to. We all, however, knew exactly where we were sending it, so they will point to that before granting chargebacks. It maybe a case by case situation, but this is not like a traditional ********** situation, and repeated charges are not likely to be granted by a credit card or bank. It's not a bad plan for a desperate last resort, but don't forget, we are still w/in the time frame they stated for payment, so it's not like we're 100% screwed at this point, or even close honestly.
A couple things that are positive signs: the CS reps are a) keeping their stories relatively straight (albeit abstract) as to our individual accounts, b) they are telling some of us the wires/checks have not been sent out yet (if they are going under, why not just tell everybody it was sent out and save themselves the problems), c) they have confirmed multiple wires have been sent to the banks (they should know that some day at the end of this week is D-Day and if the wires are not there its over; if they wanted to buy more time they would've said 10-15 days or not confirmed the send date or something), d) they actually put up their check processor, which should be able to be tracked with FedEX.
The thing that could screw everybody over, other than Jazette of course, is if we start making huge amounts of chargebacks and have Sportsbooks money frozen so we actually force them to go under. I don't know that much about the specific process of chargebacks, so I may be wrong, but I know there's either 60 or 120 days to claim them so unless that is tomorrow for people, they should wait til the weekend.
Is there anybody here whos wire was sent out before the 19th? As much as I want to wait this out, I think if that wire does not hit by 10 days we will know whats up and then it will be everybody for themselves.