[sungus77]

from a few minutes ago

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Hello, my name is Jim Anderson. How may I help you today?
You: where are my pending withdrawals
You: i chatted with you yesterday and got cut off
You: you said they would be sent yesterday
Jim Anderson: We are pleased to confirm that we will be processing withdrawals via check again, as of March 26. Your pending withdrawal(s) should be processed later this week, however, due to the backlog of check requests we are unable to provide the exact date when yours will be sent. We will contact you via email once your check has been dispatched. We recognize that this issue has been of great concern and inconvenience for our customers and we are truly sorry. Thank you for your patience.
You: when were the first checkes sent?
You: as of the 26th?
You: by the way, this is not what you said yesterday. you said they would ship by yesterday. you should not tell people things you have no idea about.
You: further, it is ridiculous that you do not mention that you are a no pay sportsbook right now
You: on your website. you allow people to deposit, when there is no way for them to get their money
You: that is so fraudulent. you can be sure that when this thing is over
Jim Anderson: Please accept our most profuse apologies for this unacceptable delay. However, there is no cause for undue concern. We hope that you can understand that we want to provide only the most reliable payment methods for our valued customers, and we ask you to please be patient whilst we strive to achieve this. The bottom line is, you will, most definitely, get your money.
You: whether i get my money from you
You: or whether i have to ********** to my credit card company
You: i will never ever use your book again
You: and will urge and warn others thru forums and other means
You: that they should never
You: ever
You: use sportsbook
Jim Anderson: SI understand, these withdrawal delays are expected to be cleared up by this week, and normal service should resume, sorry for the inconvenience
You: no the bottom line is all the canned answers have been wrong in the past
You: so there is no basis or reason to believe it will be different.
You: whatever problems arose, the worst part of it is not the delay, it is the continuous stream of halftruths, doubletalk and just plain lies that have spewed from your representatives
Jim Anderson: We entirely understand your frustration with this situation which has dragged on for far longer than anticipated. We are doing our utmost to send your withdrawal to you as soon as possible. Please bear with us a little longer, and rest assured that you most certainly will get your money. The majority of sportsbooks and casinos serving the US market are under pressure to find new and alternative payment methods since the restrictions placed on financial institutions by the US government. We are in a very good position financially to weather this storm, and it just takes a little time to set with up new processors. Please accept our sincerest apologies.
You: in the future, a word of advice, do not tell people they will get their money by a certain date when you have no idea of whether this is true
You: jsut say you do not know and leave it at that
You: this alone probably cost you my business in the future and that of many others ive been corresponding with
You: but thanks for your cutting and pasting of more canned responses. at least they didnt promise things you cant deliver

[apaulius]

currently they claim with first withdrawal was sent via wire transfer on the 22nd and will take 7-10 days to ge tthere..

i have another account iwththem which they made me verify wire and now send them an ID for name verificaiton even though i did that when i joined, so doesnt make any sense...

once that is handled another 24-48 hours till its send, then 7-10 business days..

If i get my wire by the end of this week or anytime this week i will let you guys know since it would be a big relief to everyone!

[dirtyjock]

If and when i get paid by these goofs im done playing there. Im thinking with all these payout probs they will lose a huge amount of business which will throw them into a worse state. Im sure im wrong but i predict they are much more crooked in the short future since their business will be down. (Hope it cant get more crooked then it already is) another thing. Looking at the withdraw screen it says $50 minimum cash out. Why does any place have that how does that affect anything on what the check is made out for weather its $5 or $500? Guess they are hoping if any1 has $48 they will bet again trying to get the minimum of $50. But ud still have to add the $15 fee so u would need $65. Sorry ass bastards hope some1 doesnt hit an issue with that.

[jstblaze]

Currently claim they sent their first wire transfer on the 22nd?

I myself have been tol dmine was sent on the 20th.

There were platinum members who were told anc confirmed that their wire was sent on th 13th and 14th.

TOday was business day #10, for them, and they have nothing.

ANyways, we all know there coudl be delays with bankwires, but for evey single wire they send to automatically take 10 days, is impossible and not right. They wont have that excuse for long once the majority of players expecting wires passed their 10 day mark.

[jbol]

Here is my latest:

Hello, my name is Jamie Sellars. How may I help you today?
You: What is the status of my withdrawal?
Jamie Sellars: Please bear with me while I look up your account details.....
Jamie Sellars: Your withdrawal is currently being processed and is due to be sent within 24 hours
You: You guys told me that 3 days ago
You: Im getting real tired of this
You: why do you keep delaying?
You: ??????????/
Jamie Sellars: We are processing withdrawals since yesterday with our new check processor, there are now no longer any delays your withdrawal will be sent within 24 hours, please accept our apologies for the delay
You: apologies dont cut it. Ive been getting apologies for a month now.



After that I got no response what so ever.

[jstblaze]

It seems like none of the wire they say were sent, were actually sent.

WHAT A BIG LIE THAT WOULD BE? I ALMOST CANT EVEN BELEIVE THEY WOUDL SAY THAT< CAUSE ONCE IT HITS THE 10 DAY MARK, they are guaranteeing ********** central.

I cant imagine why they would lie like that, unless teh management is reall dumb enough to not realiz ehow much more that would hurt than help.

[jstblaze]

JBOL,

IF they confirm your check was sent out, tonight, or tommorrow, immediately push for tracking info.

They will probably bullsht on that too, but if they cant get that to you within 2 days of them confirming your check sent, than it has to be bullsht.

[jbol]

JBOL,

IF they confirm your check was sent out, tonight, or tommorrow, immediately push for tracking info.

They will probably bullsht on that too, but if they cant get that to you within 2 days of them confirming your check sent, than it has to be bullsht.

will do

[Doug]

Would ****/********** eat the money, or would it be the providers that sportsbook and related sites work through? I'd been assuming the providers would have to refund to the credit card companies, and then they would be left stuck for it.

In any case, I theoretically have a check coming, so I'll wait a few more days to see if others get paid before trying to figure out what if anything chargebacks can do for me. Here's hoping.

What exactly are providers ? Is that like I have an Acme **** card, and Acme is the provider ?

I have doubts about old chargebacks ( if large), do you just say you paid thousands months ago, and never looked at the bill a little closer, the wife must have bought some cat food ?

Somebody eats this money, that somebody is going to try not to, right ?

[helpme]

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Hello, my name is Ricky Hudson. How may I help you today?
You: Hi, since my check did not get sent yesterday as I was promised, I'm confirming that is will go out today, as I was then promised?
You: I was told it would be sent via Fed Ex for sure today. Just wanting to verify.
Ricky Hudson: One moment Kevin
You: Thank you.
Ricky Hudson: Once again, I apologize for the delay. I will be with you in a moment.
You: ok, i just want to make sure my check is being sent today.
Ricky Hudson: We will email you the very second it is sent, I apologize for keeping you so long
You: I understand that I will be sent an email when it goes out, but I've been promised one day, then the next, then the next. I would like to confirm that it is giong to be sent today.
Ricky Hudson: Thank you for waiting. I will be right with you.
You: You: I understand that I will be sent an email when it goes out, but I've been promised one day, then the next, then the next. I would like to confirm that it is giong to be sent today.
You: You: I understand that I will be sent an email when it goes out, but I've been promised one day, then the next, then the next. I would like to confirm that it is giong to be sent today.
You: You: I understand that I will be sent an email when it goes out, but I've been promised one day, then the next, then the next. I would like to confirm that it is giong to be sent today.
Ricky Hudson: Unfortunately I cannot confirm this, I can however assure you it will be sent, but unfortunately I do not have an exact time
You: At least that's honest, unlike what I've apparently been told every other time. Has anyone's checks been sent yet?
Ricky Hudson: I'm sorry for the delay. I'll be right with you.
You: please.
Ricky Hudson: Yes, a LOT of customers have gotten them,They are all being done by the end of this week We are more than halfway through 800,000 checks
You: I was told I was one of the first 20,000 that would be sent this week? I haven't even been sent mine yet. Please explain.
You: Once my withdrawal was returned to my acct by sportsbook.com, I immediately re-requested a check and was told I was one of the 1st to do so.
Ricky Hudson: I understand, the ones that were sent already were from 3 weeks previous
You: I originally cashed out 3 or 4 weeks ago, but my money was put back into my sportsbook acct? How did others get sent checks, but mine was put back into my account?
You: I know many people who cashed out on sportsbook.com over the past month or so, and no one has received a check.
Ricky Hudson: No no, this was 3 weeks before all that, trust me your check is on high priority
You: OK, can you tell me how far back in the queue it is.
Ricky Hudson: I can't as I cannot see the list, My very personal opinion (as I take pity on customers who have been waiting so long) I would say it will be sent tomorrow night. Now I could be wrong! It could be sent today!
You: OK, can you tell me if anyone's check has been sent that re-requested a cash out on March 15th or later?
Ricky Hudson: Yes, They are all being done from late last week
You: ??? I don't understand
Ricky Hudson: What is not to understand?
You: What do you mean, 'They are all being done from late last week'?
Ricky Hudson: They are all being sent
You: I thought the only checks that have been sent were people who cashed out way before me? Sorry I don't understand. If people who re-requested a cashout after March 15th have already been sent checks, why has mine not been sent. Am I misunderstanding?
Ricky Hudson: I'm sorry for the delay. I'll be right with you.
Ricky Hudson: No no, the people who have been sent checks are people who requested checks a long time before you. That is all I am saying. I understand that you are trying to get some sort of answer here as to when exactly your funds will be sent, And I am aware of that. If I knew I would very much like to tell you. It will be sent very soon, I know you have heard that before a few times, but it will
You: When did those people request theirs?
You: I requested way before Mar 15th, but my funds were returned to my acct?
Ricky Hudson: Early February
Ricky Hudson: It doesn't really matter, what matters is that, your check is on high priority and will be sent very very soon
You: OK, thanks. Did you say the 1st check with the new check processor got sent late last week?
Ricky Hudson: I said that they have started to be sent last week, We are getting trough a lot very quickly, We are making good progress given the amount, Again apologies, you will get it
You: OK, so over half way through the 800,000 within a few days. That's good news. I'm assuming mine is part of that 800,000, right?
Ricky Hudson: It is indeed
You: When I get my confirmation email, will it include the Fed Ex tracking number? If not, will someone be able to provide that to me?
Ricky Hudson: You will get it when the funds are sent, sorry for keeping you so long, We are very busy as you can imagine
Ricky Hudson: There might be a day or two wait for the tracking number though
You: I will get the Fed Ex tracking # when the email is sent, right?
You: oh, ok
You: Will I get it in a seperate email, or do I have to come back to request the tracking #?
Ricky Hudson: There might be a short delay getting the number, around 2 days or so
You: But will it be sent to me, or do I have to come back to request it?
Ricky Hudson: It should be sent to you
You: OK, thanks. I have one more request from you today.
You: Can you email me a record of all of my account details, withdrawals and deposits from this year, please?
Ricky Hudson: You need to email cashier@sportsbook.com for that
Ricky Hudson: Thanks for chatting. If you are fully satisfied with the outcome of this chat then I am going to close the connection shortly. Please contact us again if you have any questions.
You: I've tried that and even put them in my address book so it wouldn't be put in a spam folder. The only way I got it before was requesting it through a chat session. Can you please email it to me?
Ricky Hudson: I can only request it for you
Ricky Hudson: One moment
You: OK, thank you.
Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK5102660586X
You: When should I receive the email?
Ricky Hudson: Within 24 to 48 hours approx
You: ok, thanks
Ricky Hudson: Take care, bye
You: bye

[fartikacular]

anybody receive anything from BoDog? i have 10g's coming from them but nothing.

Is it possible to charge back Check deposits? just like charging back CC's?

[iq8w7ht]

I was using "providers" to mean not the bank that the credit card is tied to, but rather the middlemen who presumably process your deposits. In my case, that's someone in Port Louis, Mauritania. I don't know for sure that the credit card processors aren't affiliated with Jazette, but I hadn't thought they were. In any case, the processors get the money from ****/**********, and then pass it along to sportsbook, linesmaker, or whatever your particular craptastic website is. So if Jazette takes the money and runs, and we all ********** successfully, ****/** will bother the processors about getting their money back, and the processors (assuming they haven't also run) will be stuck with the cost. Note that this is only my impression and if it's wrong, someone please let me know.

I also am not confident about the ********** process. I talked with a CS person today who guaranteed that my check would be sent within 24 hours, and that I should get a confirmation and tracking # by tomorrow. I wouldn't bet my life (har, har) that it's actually going to happen, but I'm still going to wait till at least the end of the week before figuring out what I can manage to **********, if anything, and how horrific of a process that would be. Does anyone know if massive chargebacks hurt one's credit?

[marc]

As i understand it, the banks take 6 months to pay the proccessors in full. Once the processor recieves the funds they pass it onto the merchant (minus thier fee). So in this case, jazeete is always owed money by thier processor, who in turn is waitng for the issing bank to pay them. SO when you do a **********, the bank tells the processor that the customer doesn't want to pay. Processor tells the merchant, and gives the merchant a chance to prove it is entitled to the money. If the customer prevails the bank deducts that amount form amount owed to processor and the processor tells the vendor it won't be getting the funds. The bank also hits the processor with a ********** fee, that gets passed onto the merchant. If the merchant gets too many chargebacks, the processor either increases the overall fee it charges the merchant or drops the merchant entirely

[echz]

The latest and greatest ... At least I made them commit to something, for whatever that's worth...

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Chat InformationHello, my name is Ahmed Jones. How may I help you today?
You: I am here to confirm that my wire withdrawal has been processed ...
Ahmed Jones: Please bear with me while I look up your account details...
Ahmed Jones: 1,155.00 was sent on march 23rd. They will reach you within 7-10 business days.
You: It has been sent though, and you're confirming that in 7-10 days I won't be back here saying I don't have my money?
Ahmed Jones: 1,155.00 was sent on march 23rd.
Ahmed Jones: The standard time is 3-5 business days. Due to the recent withdrawal delays, we have built up a backlog of withdrawals. Because of this we are advising customers to wait 7-10 business days.
You: So I could have it as early as tomorrow?
Ahmed Jones: Yes.
You: But no later than next Wednesday, April 4th?
Ahmed Jones: Yes. The funds should reach you before that date.
You: Thank you.

[helpme]

The latest and greatest ... At least I made them commit to something, for whatever that's worth...

Chat InformationPlease wait for a site operator to respond. Your chat should be answered within 4 seconds. Thank you for your patience.
Chat InformationHello, my name is Ahmed Jones. How may I help you today?
You: I am here to confirm that my wire withdrawal has been processed ...
Ahmed Jones: Please bear with me while I look up your account details...
Ahmed Jones: 1,155.00 was sent on march 23rd. They will reach you within 7-10 business days.
You: It has been sent though, and you're confirming that in 7-10 days I won't be back here saying I don't have my money?
Ahmed Jones: 1,155.00 was sent on march 23rd.
Ahmed Jones: The standard time is 3-5 business days. Due to the recent withdrawal delays, we have built up a backlog of withdrawals. Because of this we are advising customers to wait 7-10 business days.
You: So I could have it as early as tomorrow?
Ahmed Jones: Yes.
You: But no later than next Wednesday, April 4th?
Ahmed Jones: Yes. The funds should reach you before that date.
You: Thank you.

If it was sent on March 23rd, do they mean sent to their processor or your bank. If it was sent to your bank on the 23rd, then the backlog shouldn't come into effect. I have learned that 'sent' and 'processed' have many, many vague meanings at sportsbook.com

[Doug]

As i understand it, the banks take 6 months to pay the proccessors in full. Once the processor recieves the funds they pass it onto the merchant (minus thier fee). So in this case, jazeete is always owed money by thier processor, who in turn is waitng for the issing bank to pay them. SO when you do a **********, the bank tells the processor that the customer doesn't want to pay. Processor tells the merchant, and gives the merchant a chance to prove it is entitled to the money. If the customer prevails the bank deducts that amount form amount owed to processor and the processor tells the vendor it won't be getting the funds. The bank also hits the processor with a ********** fee, that gets passed onto the merchant. If the merchant gets too many chargebacks, the processor either increases the overall fee it charges the merchant or drops the merchant entirely

That makes sense. The party doing the ********** must sort of prove the ********** is legit and reasonable then.

The chargebacks will cause Sportsbook.com to not receive money later ( if successful), then the book is really in trouble. Already there are so many people that know about the slowpay, that future deposits will be severely comprimised, and the place is looking doomed.

[Doug]

Who decides the issue of wether the the ********** succeeds ?

[jstblaze]

You Dont Really Have To Prove Naything For A Charge Back.

You Tell The Credit Card Company They Provided No Service As They Had Contracted You, Adn Thats It.

The Onus Gets Put On Sportsbook>com To Defend Itself< Which It Can Not And Will Not Do.

I Am Getting Very Close< They Continue To Lie About Everything. I F They Coudl Simply Tell Th Etruth< I Would Be Much Happier To Wait.

[iq8w7ht]

marc, do you know if chargebacks affect one's credit rating? My better half and I are moving, and might be looking for a mortgage soon. I was hoping to have the $ tied up in linesmaker for my possible down payment, and would happily ********** but def. want to know if it would affect important things like credit scores.

[jbol]

You Dont Really Have To Prove Naything For A Charge Back.

You Tell The Credit Card Company They Provided No Service As They Had Contracted You, Adn Thats It.

The Onus Gets Put On Sportsbook>com To Defend Itself< Which It Can Not And Will Not Do.

I Am Getting Very Close< They Continue To Lie About Everything. I F They Coudl Simply Tell Th Etruth< I Would Be Much Happier To Wait.

what are you going to say the service is that they did not provide?......Im close as well, but want to get my ducks in a row before I call the cc company

[ModernManshustle]

lol! at you people thinking big cc chargebacks will be easy.
So your going to try to tell the cc to ********** because you were unaware of the charges in the first place, when sportsbook can very easily prove that it was indeed you that was placing the bets and coughing up banking information for withdrawals ect...

This will be much harder then it sounds

[jbol]

lol! at you people thinking big cc chargebacks will be easy.
So your going to try to tell the cc to ********** because you were unaware of the charges in the first place, when sportsbook can very easily prove that it was indeed you that was placing the bets and coughing up banking information for withdrawals ect...

This will be much harder then it sounds

thats what Im thinking, I think I have no hope because of the numerous charges previous

[marc]

I believe the bank using guidelines set forth by **** and ********** make the final decision. If you don't like the decision, you can always appeal to the fdic.

My brother recently tried to do a ********** on his amex card. AMEX rules in favor of the vendor. My brother complained to the fdic. A week later he recieved a note from AMEX, they they firmly belive he is not entitled to the **********, but since he is such a good customer, they will credit his account with $500. My brother was more than satisfied.

[increasedodds]

As someone who used to accept ************ for a non gambling business, let me tell you, if a customer issues a **********, they will get their money back 99% of the time. There would be times I would have a fedex tracking number and delivery signature and 800+ feedbacks on ebay and a customer would claim there was nothing in the fedex or they did not sign the package. I even had one who gave me + feedback and still won a fraudulent **********.

If you write your credit card as a customer and say: You did not make a charge, you did not receive the merchandise, the company did not provide the services, whatever.... your bank will send the ********** on to the merchant account. Your bank will give you a temporary credit and could care less.

The merchant account will send the charge back to SPortsbook asking for evidence to fight it.

Most likely sportsbook will not reply (They are a gambling company likely registered as something else) If this is the case, your credit will become permanent in a few weeks (I think 60 days)

If sportsbook replies (They wont) you will still win the ********** or very unlikely be asked for more info in which case you will again claim sportsbook stole your money and win then.

Chargebacks do not hurt your credit.

You can perform them for 180 days from your statement receipt.

You can not perform them if you paid off the charge... If your credit is $10000 and you had $2000 at sportsbook, you could pay down to $2000, but if you paid to $0 you are out of luck unless your bank is nice.

I should add, each ********** will cost sportsbook $25-100 depending on their merchant agreement, and as the merchant account gets to many, they will lock up sportsbook's bank account and close their processing.
sean

[jonshields]

Anyone know how these chargebacks would work for a debit card from a major bank?

[jbol]

As someone who used to accept ************ for a non gambling business, let me tell you, if a customer issues a **********, they will get their money back 99% of the time. There would be times I would have a fedex tracking number and delivery signature and 800+ feedbacks on ebay and a customer would claim there was nothing in the fedex or they did not sign the package. I even had one who gave me + feedback and still won a fraudulent **********.

If you write your credit card as a customer and say: You did not make a charge, you did not receive the merchandise, the company did not provide the services, whatever.... your bank will send the ********** on to the merchant account. Your bank will give you a temporary credit and could care less.

The merchant account will send the charge back to SPortsbook asking for evidence to fight it.

Most likely sportsbook will not reply (They are a gambling company likely registered as something else) If this is the case, your credit will become permanent in a few weeks (I think 60 days)

If sportsbook replies (They wont) you will still win the ********** or very unlikely be asked for more info in which case you will again claim sportsbook stole your money and win then.

Chargebacks do not hurt your credit.

You can perform them for 180 days from your statement receipt.

You can not perform them if you paid off the charge... If your credit is $10000 and you had $2000 at sportsbook, you could pay down to $2000, but if you paid to $0 you are out of luck unless your bank is nice.

I should add, each ********** will cost sportsbook $25-100 depending on their merchant agreement, and as the merchant account gets to many, they will lock up sportsbook's bank account and close their processing.
sean

sounds good, but what do you say the service is that they did not provide?

[Doug]

The book sounds vulnerable to also being scammed if they won't fight a **********. Somebody could have deposited months ago, lost fair and square, and now try to ********** justifying it ( to themselves) by saying SB is toast already.

Seems any book would be reluctant to take a credit card under these conditions.

I've never deposited ( successfully) via card, haven't even tried in years.

[TimTimTimbo]

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Hello, my name is Jim Anderson. How may I help you today?

You: First I have not received an email about my wire for 2,000 dollars and also have not received any emails since the 22nd of this month for deposits I have made with my ****. I made one today and did not get a receipt. I have 36 of them up to this point and I also have emails regarding my wire when they asked me for a voided check on Sunday which I provided. I know there are many people out there fed up with the promises about their bank wires and checks that have been coming and I know some of them have been talking about canceling all their credit card deposits. I do not want to do this but I amn suspicious of the fact that I am suddenly not receiving confirmations of my **** deposits

Jim Anderson: Sorry for the delay...I'll be right with you

You: I am wating for a reply please

Jim Anderson: $2,000.00 was sent today by wire, we will confirm this later by email. After the withdrawal is processed, the funds will be directly deposited into your bank account within 7-10 business days.

You: So you are saying it was sent to my bank or sent to the processor who will send this out

Jim Anderson: We sent this to your bank today, and it takes 7-10 business days to receive

You: OK, Thank You

[marc]

I think one of the issues here is that under the UIGEA, banks aren't allowed to knowingly process illegal gambling transactions. If you simply show the bank that these were all gambling charges, under the law, the bank might be forced to cancel them all.

[jstblaze]

Modern Man Hustle, You Do Not Know What You Are Talking About.

You Charge Back, Have To Prove Nothing. You Tell Them No Service Was Provided, It Does Not Matter Hows Name Is On It, And Who Made Teh Transactions.

The Weight All Goes To The Merchant Then Sportsbook Will Have To Prove They Provide Dservice Or Paid You Your Money.

Not Only Will Thet Not Do This, They Will Not Reply At All< They Will Not Even Take The Phoen Call Usually< When It Involves A **********.

Debit Cards Are Much More Difficult At Some Banks. Im Not Sure Hwy But I Know This Can Be The Case>

[Doug]

I think one of the issues here is that under the UIGEA, banks aren't allowed to knowingly process illegal gambling transactions. If you simply show the bank that these were all gambling charges, under the law, the bank might be forced to cancel them all.

Sounds optomistic to me, the bank still needs its money back, and you initiated the transaction, so maybe if the bank can get the money back somehow ?

[Joey12345]

You guys are making this more complicated than necessary. Sportsbook never charged your credit card. It was their middleman, most recently "Egames" and "sport4U". When you challenge there is no way in hell they can substantiate anything. Even if you don't have money owed...do it anyway because these guys are pieces of garbage.

[batottu]

I don't know if this would help with CC chargebacks, but I and others have been told by customer reps that customers have received bank wires. Today when I asked a Customer service rep if anyone had received a wire yet he said that if they released this information they would be breaching their confidentiality agreement with us. So in other words he told me that they breached their contract with all of us. Therefore the service wasn't provide by the stated cantract and a CC ********** would be waranted.

[jbol]

still waiting on someone to tell me what service they didnt provide.........I dont think it would be wise to say gambling.

[Joey12345]

Not One Person Has Received Anything!!!!! Go to covers, cappingthegame or any other site and you will see the same stories. Challenge the charges boys....you will be more than happy when your card is showing a nice plus figure going back six months.