[marc]

I'm just curious what you people think. As it stands right now, do you think it is ethical to recommend an SB skin to a new player? pocketfives.com, which is a pretty respected poker forum is recommending PlayersOnly to its customers and when I posted and pointed them to this thread, they deleted it. Not only that, a mod posted in the same thread and said they were associates with SportingBet. What????? Aren't they a Jazette skin?

http://www.pocketfives.com/4325C3A9-...82920F7FD.aspx

I think their advertised payout times would be particularly amusing to some posters here.

most forums are like that.. If playersonly is paying for the banner ad, no way will pocketfives take them down. If the mods were smart they would at least post a thread informing players that for the time being they should keep all withdrawal requests to under $2500

[marc]

Sungus, and Marc, thank you for your replies. Sounds like BkofAma would make it very difficult on me if I chose to do so. If I was sure to receive my monies I wouldn't even think about charging back. I'm just to the point I don't know if they're trustworthy anymore. So much for that option. Back to patience!!!!!

I would not give up on BofA so quickly. It all depends on who you speak to. Their policy is that you have to show that you did not recieve the goods and services that you recieved. You just need to explain to them that the "service" in question is the ability to withdraw funds on demand. Point out that anyone can play the casino games for free money. So that isn't a service you need to pay for.

There are only 2 reasons not to do a **********
1) once things get better you want to be able to go back and play with them
2) the amount of money you are owed is more than you can charge back.

I don't see us getting paid this month. There is no way they mailed me any checks on may 4th. SInce there is no other update it can only mean that the checks haven't gone out yet. Time is definitely working against us.

[JRachel]

most forums are like that.. If playersonly is paying for the banner ad, no way will pocketfives take them down. If the mods were smart they would at least post a thread informing players that for the time being they should keep all withdrawal requests to under $2500

To be fair to pocketfives, they removed my post not because it mentioned PlayersOnly in a negative light, but because instead of linking to this thread, I linked to the SBR site which is another affiliate site. Linking to other affiliates sites from P5s is against their T&C.

FWIW, I sent all the info I had to the mod and they seem to be taking it seriously, but I still think implying that PO is linked to SportingBet (a big UK company with serious heft) is misleading.

[marc]

To be fair to pocketfives, they removed my post not because it mentioned PlayersOnly in a negative light, but because instead of linking to this thread, I linked to the SBR site which is another affiliate site. Linking to other affiliates sites from P5s is against their T&C.

FWIW, I sent all the info I had to the mod and they seem to be taking it seriously, but I still think implying that PO is linked to SportingBet (a big UK company with serious heft) is misleading.

I wouldn't be too upset over the fact that they linked PO to Sportingbet. Up until October of last year, they were under the Sportingbet umbrella. The mods might not have realized that sportingbet sold their US facing business to Jazette

[IneedMymoney]

I talked to CS again today and one of the ladies informed me the May 2nd checks weren't sent from the processor as I have been told for the past ten days. I asked to have it cancelled and they said they couldn't do that either. I'm supposed to call back and talk to a supervisor named "adam" on Wednesday as he told me he would have more information by then.

[jpot34]

I would not give up on BofA so quickly. It all depends on who you speak to. Their policy is that you have to show that you did not recieve the goods and services that you recieved. You just need to explain to them that the "service" in question is the ability to withdraw funds on demand. Point out that anyone can play the casino games for free money. So that isn't a service you need to pay for.

There are only 2 reasons not to do a **********
1) once things get better you want to be able to go back and play with them
2) the amount of money you are owed is more than you can charge back.

I don't see us getting paid this month. There is no way they mailed me any checks on may 4th. SInce there is no other update it can only mean that the checks haven't gone out yet. Time is definitely working against us.

marc, they definitely owe me alot more than I can charge back. We're talking over $30,000 in pure profit. I also believe the bigger winners are being intentionally held up.

[Mark Shark]

I even asked if I could jump on a plane and go and pick up my money, but they said that wouldn't be possible. I could not see the reason why this could not happen. I was willing to pay for all my flights. CROOKS.

[garthishere]

Anyone else get an email from sportsbook ........saying the march 21st payouts will be in your bank account on or before this Friday?

I'll post the email if anyone wants to see it.

[marc]

Anyone else get an email from sportsbook ........saying the march 21st payouts will be in your bank account on or before this Friday?

I'll post the email if anyone wants to see it.

I'd love to know why they are so confident

[garthishere]

Please accept our apology for the delay in your payment request for account id xxxxxxxxxx. After receiving word from you that your payment for $5,881.58 date 21/03/2007, hadn't’t arrived yet, we did some investigating into what may have happened. As it turns out, our payment processor confirmed your wire as processed, when the actual transmission had failed.

You can be sure that we are doing everything humanly possible to get your money to you by or before this Friday, May 18th. Another fact that might be of some comfort to you is that we have just set up some fail-safes to prevent anything like this from ever happening again.

If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to reply this email. We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience in relation to this matter.

Kind regards,

The www.sportsbook.com Team

[Kazoo]

Got same thing too....Could there be light at the end of the tunnel?

[garthishere]

The Great Kazoo.........it has got to be a light.....or a train coming.

[untorbust]

I just called VIP and they said that my 3/21 wire was traced back and I should see it in 7-10 days. I'm not optimistic yet. I did not receive that e-mail that Kazoo and garthishere received.

[onlinescam]

I just called VIP and they said that my 3/21 wire was traced back and I should see it in 7-10 days. I'm not optimistic yet. I did not receive that e-mail that Kazoo and garthishere received.

3/19/07-3/21/07 Update. I recevied this email today.



Dear

Please accept our apology for the delay in your payment request for
account id 7****. After receiving word from you that your payment for
$2,220.82 date 21/03/2007, hadn't’t arrived yet, we did some
investigating into what may have happened. As it turns out, our payment
processor confirmed your wire as processed, when the actual transmission had
failed.

You can be sure that we are doing everything humanly possible to get
your money to you by or before this Friday, May 18th. Another fact that
might be of some comfort to you is that we have just set up some
fail-safes to prevent anything like this from ever happening again.

If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to reply this
email. We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience
in relation to this matter.

Kind regards,

[marc]

So are they saying that all that talk about having resent your funds 2 or 3 times were all lies. Did it really take them 8 weeks to realize that the money was never sent.

I hope you guys get your money, then maye they might focus on all of the missing checks

[Kazoo]

marc thanks ...and hope you get your money too

[bigjp5091]

I also received message today regarding a wire transfer from 4/26. However, still waiting on check from 3/16.

[IneedMymoney]

Just got off the phone with CS. My check for 8 G which was requested MARCH 27th is still unsent. It was supposedly sent April 27th and then again May 2nd.

Today they informed me that the check will HOPEFULLY be sent out by the end of next week.

It looks like the processor that is handling large checks still hasn't figured it all out.

[untorbust]

So what do you think the odds are that we see our wires by the end of the week?

[garthishere]

50-50

[PFL57]

So what do you think the odds are that we see our wires by the end of the week?

I would be willing to bet my entire withdrawal that I won't recieve my withdrawal by this Friday. I recieved the same e-mail this morning. I called VIP and they said they "guranteed" the funds would be there before Friday. This is the 3rd "gurantee" I've had since my first withdrawal attempt in Feb. I say a few will get wires, but not all.

[garthishere]

50-50

[onlinescam]

I would be willing to bet my entire withdrawal that I won't recieve my withdrawal by this Friday. I recieved the same e-mail this morning. I called VIP and they said they "guranteed" the funds would be there before Friday. This is the 3rd "gurantee" I've had since my first withdrawal attempt in Feb. I say a few will get wires, but not all.

I agree with you. I think we will get a new excuess on Monday next week. This company suck ass.

[marc]

I would be willing to bet my entire withdrawal that I won't recieve my withdrawal by this Friday. I recieved the same e-mail this morning. I called VIP and they said they "guranteed" the funds would be there before Friday. This is the 3rd "gurantee" I've had since my first withdrawal attempt in Feb. I say a few will get wires, but not all.

Their garuantees are a joke. The only thing they garuantee you is if you don't get your money by friday, you are garaunteed to get another deadline

[onlinescam]

Their garuantees are a joke. The only thing they garuantee you is if you don't get your money by friday, you are garaunteed to get another deadline

Or this is the weekend they close the doors and go out of business.

[Rolltide]

Their garuantees are a joke. The only thing they garuantee you is if you don't get your money by friday, you are garaunteed to get another deadline

I got the same e-mail....Then I called customer service and he said there was no update on the 3/21---4/4 withdrawls

[marc]

Bad news guys. I just asked them about my check from 3/28 taht should have gone out 4/10, but was then "sent" on may 4th. And they just told me the same story you guys got. The transmission failed and they are doing everything humanly possible to make sure I get paid by this friday.

somehow now they will be able to send a me a check with 3 days, when before they said it would take 3 weeks

[cards825]

Bad news guys. I just asked them about my check from 3/28 taht should have gone out 4/10, but was then "sent" on may 4th. And they just told me the same story you guys got. The transmission failed and they are doing everything humanly possible to make sure I get paid by this friday.

OSmehow now they will be able to send a me a check with 3 days, when before they said it would take 3 weeks

I talked with many people on chat and phone. I was also sent an email saying my check was sent on April 10 then they swore it was April 30. i talked with someone today and they said it will go out this week. A new excuse everyday. This Sucks

[PFL57]

Bad news guys. I just asked them about my check from 3/28 taht should have gone out 4/10, but was then "sent" on may 4th. And they just told me the same story you guys got. The transmission failed and they are doing everything humanly possible to make sure I get paid by this friday.

somehow now they will be able to send a me a check with 3 days, when before they said it would take 3 weeks

Marc, did they say sent or actually to you by this Friday? Did anyone else besides the 3-19 - 3-21 wire group recieve an e-mail this morning regarding the location of their funds? I thought only people who had wires from that time frame were guranteed to get their cash. Of course, I use the term gurantee meaning to never see their money again. Also, I recieved a bonus with in my e-mail, but they wouldn't put it in my V-Chip account. I have to talk to someone on the live chat and make a live bet. Anyone ever hear of that?

[marc]

Marc, did they say sent or actually to you by this Friday? Did anyone else besides the 3-19 - 3-21 wire group recieve an e-mail this morning regarding the location of their funds? I thought only people who had wires from that time frame were guranteed to get their cash. Of course, I use the term gurantee meaning to never see their money again. Also, I recieved a bonus with in my e-mail, but they wouldn't put it in my V-Chip account. I have to talk to someone on the live chat and make a live bet. Anyone ever hear of that?

They are back to saying that my check was sent on the 4th but it should only take 7-10 business days

[slash]

Nice spam mail from sportsbetting.com. At least they only guarantee fast and secure betting transactions and not withdrawals...


Hello,

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[marc]

Marc, did they say sent or actually to you by this Friday? Did anyone else besides the 3-19 - 3-21 wire group recieve an e-mail this morning regarding the location of their funds? I thought only people who had wires from that time frame were guranteed to get their cash. Of course, I use the term gurantee meaning to never see their money again. Also, I recieved a bonus with in my e-mail, but they wouldn't put it in my V-Chip account. I have to talk to someone on the live chat and make a live bet. Anyone ever hear of that?

Sounds like they are offering you a free play bonus. About a month ago, Trun reported that they had given him a free play bonus as well. percentage wise, how big of a bonus did they offer

[PFL57]

Sounds like they are offering you a free play bonus. About a month ago, Trun reported that they had given him a free play bonus as well. percentage wise, how big of a bonus did they offer

3%. Did Trun ever report getting paid? I'm more concerned with that than a bonus.

[marc]

3%. Did Trun ever report getting paid? I'm more concerned with that than a bonus.

Trun got paid a long time ago. 3% is an insult

[waiting for $]

I'm waiting on 3 checks and have had similar stories. This weekend, they told me my check for $7,000 that was first requested in late March was sent out regular mail on 4/28. This is after first telling me that it was sent on 4/10. I also made withdrawl requests for 2k on both 5/6 and 5/7. I then got an email on 5/10 saying that my check withdrawl request from 5/6 was sent on 5/10. This weekend they confirmed this and said my request from 5/7 was sent on 5/11, but I never received an email on this one. I have no confidence in anything they tell me and just hope I get my $.