1. 10-07-13 04:31 PM #36
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    A stupid move would have been to take the braves and the under in Game 3
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  2. 10-07-13 04:35 PM #37
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    If I remember right both CC and Verlander were on 2 days rest back on Oct. 3 2011 (game 3).

    Det (-117) (total, 7) won 5-4. CC went 5.1, 7H, 3 SO, 6BB and and 4 earned. Verlander went 8.0, 6H, 4 earned, 3BB, 11 SO
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  3. 10-07-13 04:38 PM #38
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    mattingly's idol is al davis and he doesn't give fukk what people on sbr or anyone else says...

    "just win baby!!!"
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  4. 10-07-13 04:38 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMon View Post
    If I remember right both CC and Verlander were on 2 days rest back on Oct. 3 2011 (game 3).

    Det (-117) (total, 7) won 5-4. CC went 5.1, 7H, 3 SO, 6BB and and 4 earned. Verlander went 8.0, 6H, 4 earned, 3BB, 11 SO
    yeah like i said..Yanks did this on their last WS run.

    nothing new.

    doesn't mean its smart tho.
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  5. 10-07-13 04:43 PM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTall View Post
    mattingly will get the last laugh. he pitches kershaw today, and if dodgers lose he comes back with kershaw game 5
    I think you mean Greinke.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMon View Post
    If I remember right both CC and Verlander were on 2 days rest back on Oct. 3 2011 (game 3).

    Det (-117) (total, 7) won 5-4. CC went 5.1, 7H, 3 SO, 6BB and and 4 earned. Verlander went 8.0, 6H, 4 earned, 3BB, 11 SO
    Three days rest, not 2.

    That was a unique situation, because it rained in Game 1, forcing Verlander and CC to come out early. Verlander pitched 1 inning in Game 1. CC pitched 2 innings.

    Here, Kershaw is pitching on the same rest as Verlander and CC did, but having thrown 124 pitches his last time out, and without having started on three days rest before (unlike CC and JV).

    edit: It was 2 days rest
    Last edited by yisman; 10-07-13 at 04:50 PM. Reason: 2 days, you're right
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  6. 10-07-13 04:44 PM #41
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    didn't the diamondbacks also use randy and curt with 3 days rest?

    not that big of a deal...
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  7. 10-07-13 04:46 PM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    didn't the diamondbacks also use randy and curt with 3 days rest?

    not that big of a deal...
    yep
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  8. 10-07-13 04:47 PM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    I think you mean Greinke.



    Three days rest, not 2.
    you sure..I thought they pitch on the 30th of Sept.
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  9. 10-07-13 04:49 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMon View Post
    you sure..I thought they pitch on the 30th of Sept.
    Oh you're right, it was two days rest.

    But it was only done because they barely pitched in Game 1 due to rain.
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  10. 10-07-13 04:50 PM #45
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  11. 10-07-13 04:59 PM #46
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    Maybe I am showing my age, but I remember when all good pitchers went the whole season pitching every fourth day barring injury. And there was no such thing as a pitch count. You threw until they hit you.

    Gibson, Koufax, Spahn, etc. These guys were throwing shutouts galore.
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    And if it is a stupid move you should tap out on the Braves tonight and see how you end up. Or better yet take +430 on Atlanta for the series. I don't hear anyone doing that yet.
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  13. 10-07-13 05:03 PM #48
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    Could cost him his job. He's definitely gambling here when he doesn't need to
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  14. 10-07-13 05:04 PM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Cannot comment until after the game is over right now it's neither a good move not a bad move

    Don Mattingly has never been a good manager and was an overrated baseball player and is Dumb as rocks
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  15. 10-07-13 05:05 PM #50
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    Mattingly just turned this game into game 5.
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  16. 10-07-13 05:07 PM #51
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    I'm sure the impact will be worse on the next series as they are still going to win this series.

    But hard for me to argue with a guy who's been around this group every day for the last 8 months or so.

    I'll tell you after the World Series what I woulda done, like JJ
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  17. 10-07-13 05:07 PM #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Cannot comment until after the game is over right now it's neither a good move not a bad move

    Don Mattingly has never been a good manager and was an overrated baseball player and is Dumb as rocks
    Jj sharpest person at Sbr. Make ur wager after the game too.
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  18. 10-07-13 05:07 PM #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn Dick View Post
    Maybe I am showing my age, but I remember when all good pitchers went the whole season pitching every fourth day barring injury. And there was no such thing as a pitch count. You threw until they hit you.

    Gibson, Koufax, Spahn, etc. These guys were throwing shutouts galore.
    I am old enough to remember that too, but it is a whole new world today. Back in the day, pitchers pitched on shorter rest so often that there bodies effectively got used to it so it didn't bother them that much. Nowadays, short rest is the exception rather than the rule and also don't forget that pitchers are often creatures of habit that don't do as well when their normal routine between starts is broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn Dick View Post
    And if it is a stupid move you should tap out on the Braves tonight and see how you end up. Or better yet take +430 on Atlanta for the series. I don't hear anyone doing that yet.
    That;s not the point either, even if the Dodgers WIN tonight, they are wasting Kershaw unnecessarily.
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  20. 10-07-13 05:13 PM #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn Dick View Post
    And if it is a stupid move you should tap out on the Braves tonight and see how you end up. Or better yet take +430 on Atlanta for the series. I don't hear anyone doing that yet.
    I think it's worth a flier, but some books took down the series price after the pitching change.

    Was it ATL +430 before the change?

    5 Dimes took it down but Heritage has
    Mon 10/7 853 Series Dodgers
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  21. 10-07-13 05:16 PM #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    We're fukked
    Mattingly just went to Nolasco. Now you have a head case in Greinke and Nolasco knows his skipper has zero faith in him. Mattingly turned this into a must win game when he didn't need to.
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    at people saying it could cost him his job if they lose
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  23. 10-07-13 05:18 PM #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by wagerjunkie View Post
    at people saying it could cost him his job if they lose
    Won't cost him his job, but it's a definitive moment.
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  24. 10-07-13 05:21 PM #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    Mattingly just went to Nolasco. Now you have a head case in Greinke and Nolasco knows his skipper has zero faith in him. Mattingly turned this into a must win game when he didn't need to.
    I would venture to say that Nolasco didn't think anyone had much faith in him after giving up 22 runs in 25 September innings including 17 runs in his last 12 IP.
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  25. 10-07-13 05:25 PM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatddy View Post
    I would venture to say that Nolasco didn't think anyone had much faith in him after giving up 22 runs in 25 September innings including 17 runs in his last 12 IP.
    Sharp
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatddy View Post
    I would venture to say that Nolasco didn't think anyone had much faith in him after giving up 22 runs in 25 September innings including 17 runs in his last 12 IP.
    So why even carry him on your postseason roster?

    If you're not going to use him up 2-1 at home vs. Freddy Garcia, you're never going to use him.
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  27. 10-07-13 05:31 PM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    So why even carry him on your postseason roster?

    If you're not going to use him up 2-1 at home vs. Freddy Garcia, you're never going to use him.
    Yup, this tatddyer. Couldn't have said it better.
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  28. 10-07-13 05:31 PM #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    So why even carry him on your postseason roster?

    If you're not going to use him up 2-1 at home vs. Freddy Garcia, you're never going to use him.
    I didn't say that he shouldn't be starting today. I was responding to Nino's assertion that Nolasco would feel somehow thwarted here. I don't think he'll read much into it other than his coach is coming off unnecessarily desperate.

    I'd be starting Nolasco here for sure.
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  29. 10-07-13 05:32 PM #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by wagerjunkie View Post
    at people saying it could cost him his job if they lose
    If they lose the series, he's out in LA. I live in LA. They have been talking about it for the last few weeks all over the airwaves
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  30. 10-07-13 06:03 PM #65
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    No doubt the Braves are thrilled. Think about it, who would you rather face a fresh Nolasco or a spent Kershaw? Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicAtNight View Post
    If they lose the series, he's out in LA. I live in LA. They have been talking about it for the last few weeks all over the airwaves
    postjunkie is a clueless nitwit.

    the fact that they havent given him a contract extension even during that historic run is proof that his job is on the line.
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    mattingly said in a press conf that kershaw lobbied for game 4 start after game 1 and last night. and it was a decision by "committee."

    sounds more like he's letting the inmates run the asylum. because if it backfires, he'll get 100% of the blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post


    We're fukked


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    Quote Originally Posted by tatddy View Post
    I didn't say that he shouldn't be starting today. I was responding to Nino's assertion that Nolasco would feel somehow thwarted here. I don't think he'll read much into it other than his coach is coming off unnecessarily desperate.

    I'd be starting Nolasco here for sure.
    Mattingly's a fvcking idiot, and I'm really hoping this blows up in his face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatddy View Post
    I didn't say that he shouldn't be starting today. I was responding to Nino's assertion that Nolasco would feel somehow thwarted here. I don't think he'll read much into it other than his coach is coming off unnecessarily desperate.

    I'd be starting Nolasco here for sure.
    But the desperation shows your lack of confidence in Nolasco or anybody else in your starting rotation. Now you potentially hand Nolasco the ball in St. Louis and he isn't supposed to feel shitty? You don't think Nolasco wants a shot to show he's not as bad as he closed out the season? He's a professional, but it's the absolute wrong message to send him.
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