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    Into The Weekend w BetDSI 10/3 - Sharp and Public Action for NFL Week 5, NCAAF Week 6

    SBR Videos host Peter Loshak welcomes Brent, the Head Lines Manager at BetDSI Sportsbook, to discuss the betting action he has seen for the upcoming weekend's major sporting events.

    In this week's episode, Brent and Loshak discuss NFL week 5, and college football Week 6.



    Part 1: College Football Week 6



    Part 2: NFL Week 5

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    I want to take the time to say thanks to Peter and Brent for doing these videos each week.

    Brent, some of the sides that you say are sharp are not sharp sides. Whatever person/group is betting into you is doing so to drive the number up so they can get a better number/price on the game later on in the week. Ohio is not a sharp side. Personally I'm on Akron +6.5 I posted this pick in my thread a few days ago. You were right when you said Ohio opened -3, which is currently where the number is. But not before it went all the way up to -6.5. Same with the Texas St/Texas Tech over that you said was a sharp side. That was another game where the move was false (opened 57 got pushed to 59 closed 56.5) I know cause I was on the under 59. Just wanted to mention(I'm sure you already know this) that there are a lot of false moves going on each week and some of the games your receiving sharp action on may not be the side they actually want. It would be a more accurate statement saying this side is "sharp" if we knew what the number closed at. But I know you guys do the videos in the middle of the week so your just sharing with us the action you have received at that point. Anyway thought it was worth mentioning. Especially for those who blindly bet every "sharp" side you give out. Feel free to comment, again I appreciate the effort and time you guys put into making these videos. You guys are great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterP10 View Post
    I want to take the time to say thanks to Peter and Brent for doing these videos each week.

    Brent, some of the sides that you say are sharp are not sharp sides. Whatever person/group is betting into you is doing so to drive the number up so they can get a better number/price on the game later on in the week. Ohio is not a sharp side. Personally I'm on Akron +6.5 I posted this pick in my thread a few days ago. You were right when you said Ohio opened -3, which is currently where the number is. But not before it went all the way up to -6.5. Same with the Texas St/Texas Tech over that you said was a sharp side. That was another game where the move was false (opened 57 got pushed to 59 closed 56.5) I know cause I was on the under 59. Just wanted to mention(I'm sure you already know this) that there are a lot of false moves going on each week and some of the games your receiving sharp action on may not be the side they actually want. It would be a more accurate statement saying this side is "sharp" if we knew what the number closed at. But I know you guys do the videos in the middle of the week so your just sharing with us the action you have received at that point. Anyway thought it was worth mentioning. Especially for those who blindly bet every "sharp" side you give out. Feel free to comment, again I appreciate the effort and time you guys put into making these videos. You guys are great.
    great points, thanks for your input!

    of course we know line manipulation does occur, and we could do a whole series of videos just on that topic, it would be interesting if we could get people to discuss it honestly, which would be hard. The only primary-source accounts of line manipulation I have ever heard personally have been told to me completely off the record

    I will ask Brent about this next call! How he can tell the difference between a legit sharp opinion and an intentional misdirection
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeDime View Post
    great points, thanks for your input!

    of course we know line manipulation does occur, and we could do a whole series of videos just on that topic, it would be interesting if we could get people to discuss it honestly, which would be hard. The only primary-source accounts of line manipulation I have ever heard personally have been told to me completely off the record

    I will ask Brent about this next call! How he can tell the difference between a legit sharp opinion and an intentional misdirection
    Thanks Peter, sounds good. I'm interested in hearing what he has to say on the topic.

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    Interesting points, I guess, but then again you are saying its not sharp action . . . but he sits in the office where the bets come in, and I can only assume the guys he calls "sharp" are big long term winners. Lines will definitely move for and against. Regardless, there are sharps who bet a side based on the number, Ohio at -3/-3.5 is likely a good bet by sharp players as Brent said, at +6 another group of sharps may like Akron - but as he mentions, its always about the number. I think that he gave out impressive winners like 5-1 and 4-2 or something like that, then broke even last week in College. SO if you blindly bet the plays at the right price, you are pretty happy - if you try to pick and choose, maybe you choose incorrectly.

    Regardless I love the segment and its pretty much my go-to on this fine forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by kincade View Post
    Interesting points, I guess, but then again you are saying its not sharp action . . . but he sits in the office where the bets come in, and I can only assume the guys he calls "sharp" are big long term winners. Lines will definitely move for and against. Regardless, there are sharps who bet a side based on the number, Ohio at -3/-3.5 is likely a good bet by sharp players as Brent said, at +6 another group of sharps may like Akron - but as he mentions, its always about the number. I think that he gave out impressive winners like 5-1 and 4-2 or something like that, then broke even last week in College. SO if you blindly bet the plays at the right price, you are pretty happy - if you try to pick and choose, maybe you choose incorrectly.

    Regardless I love the segment and its pretty much my go-to on this fine forum
    Your right it is always about the number but betting Ohio -3 is not a good bet if the market closes Ohio -3. The point I was trying to make was about market manipulation and to be aware of the games getting bet early in the week aren't necessarily "sharp" sides.

    I agree Peter and Brent do a great job each week.

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    no doubts with the college foots. let's pick it up on the pros side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterP10 View Post
    Your right it is always about the number but betting Ohio -3 is not a good bet if the market closes Ohio -3. The point I was trying to make was about market manipulation and to be aware of the games getting bet early in the week aren't necessarily "sharp" sides.

    I agree Peter and Brent do a great job each week.
    I think that laying Ohio -3 and Ohio closing -3 is a good bet - if Ohio wins. I disagree that every sharp play here has to be a major move, but what makes them sharp plays per Brent are that they, the players, win longterm. There are lots of sharps out there and also syndicates just moving numbers, there are times when sharps disagree on a side, the numbers will get beat around (like between -3 to -6 with Ohio) and books will balance and have sharps against each other then let the public do what it does. If you say Ohio isn't a sharp play, and you say the proof is that it closed -3, I think there is much more to it and more sharps involved than you might think. In the end I have a normal job and can't get into all the moves and shakes, but I think when he says sharps played 'this' and at 'this' price, that is a fact, and the sharps he refers to may not be you, but definitely is someone who is a longterm winner . . . and I have no problem being on the same side a longterm winners.

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    Great segments thank you.

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    If I got everything here. Brent said sharps were on Alabama UN, LSU OV, North Carolina OV, UMAss UN, Ohio, Notre Dame, Nwstrn, and Nwstrn OV . . . 7-2 free info. I understand the idea of the show isn't necessarily a straight "free winners" and is great info - but if we go back four weeks i believe the info in College has gone 5-1, 4-2, 3-3 7-2 for a total of 19-8! NFL is probably 50-50 which is kinda expected I think.

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    wonder why there isn't a video up yet this week LOL. Guy was probably told to stop by his employer. Great info

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