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    Its the playoffs dont look to far into this

    On the cards -1 at (+120 5 dimes)

    They are the better team with the much better bullpen

    Book it

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    cardinals are the best play on the card today....

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    Hard to make a case for Pitt tonight

    Staying away or taking Cards

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    No coin are you saying u need pitt to be +138 ( least to bet them?

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    Love the buccos in game 3 but thats the only one they'll win. They're just outclassed here. Cards, easy $

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    It's not that complicated. When a team wins Game 1 so convincingly, public perception swings in favor of that team.
    Because "public perception" wasn't in the Cardinals' favor in the first place?

    Again, you're getting a rookie pitcher making his postseason debut at +115 in St. Louis. Regardless of what the "overreaction" might be with the public, it's certainly not reflected in the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    No coin are you saying u need pitt to be +138 ( least to bet them?
    I'm saying that PIT at +138 would be the kind of overreaction you indicate.

    I'm not telling you the Pirates won't win, but you aren't getting much of a # at +115 for that kind of gamble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Because "public perception" wasn't in the Cardinals' favor in the first place?

    Again, you're getting a rookie pitcher making his postseason debut at +115 in St. Louis. Regardless of what the "overreaction" might be with the public, it's certainly not reflected in the line.
    Lines always lean toward the team that lost Game 1. also I didn't know oddsmakers factor in rookie pitcher in a big game angles. That's new to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Lines always lean toward the team that lost Game 1. also I didn't know oddsmakers factor in rookie pitcher in a big game angles. That's new to me.
    How have rookie pitchers fared so far in the postseason this year?

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    took Pitt FF...to be honest I wanted to take the cards for the game but I was unsure of it...I actually have slight confidence in this considering the majority of the people I've seen are on the Cards today...I'm not saying Stl won't comeback and win this thing, but don't think the books give this one away as easy today as it was yesterday

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    To me the rookie factor can go one of 2 ways. He can crumble like a little bitch. Or the adrenaline will fuel him Ala Jeremy Lin, Puig etc.

    It's a coin flip game for me. Which means Pitt or nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Lines always lean toward the team that lost Game 1. also I didn't know oddsmakers factor in rookie pitcher in a big game angles. That's new to me.
    cards were what 15 cents higher yesterday? with waino vs burnett...just stop already..

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    Facing the Cardinals in a must-win spot on the road for your first playoff start is a little different than going against the Cubs or the Brewers in a meaningless regular season game.

    Are you telling me that a pitcher's experience isn't taken into consideration when setting a line?

    I'm just going to stop responding now. Good luck LB. And good luck, LB's parrot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bringdownthehous View Post
    took Pitt FF...to be honest I wanted to take the cards for the game but I was unsure of it...I actually have slight confidence in this considering the majority of the people I've seen are on the Cards today...I'm not saying Stl won't comeback and win this thing, but don't think the books give this one away as easy today as it was yesterday
    yea right the whole clown posse is all over pit...

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    Yea just stop already

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffraff24 View Post
    To me the rookie factor can go one of 2 ways. He can crumble like a little bitch. Or the adrenaline will fuel him Ala Jeremy Lin, Puig etc.

    It's a coin flip game for me. Which means Pitt or nothing.
    LOL neither of those comparisons make sense...Lin wasn't a rookie when he burst out, and Puig has had one game in the playoffs as a position player, so I dont think one game can determine him "crumbling", a whole series would maybe be more indicative

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    Cole is better than Salazar. Looks like air laker has the right side today.

    Just unfortunate for him there is no return on air

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    No coin you can't see the books didn't want to give much + money on the bucs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcene View Post
    Cole is better than Salazar. Looks like air laker has the right side today.

    Just unfortunate for him there is no return on air
    and cards bats are better than tampons..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    yea right the whole clown posse is all over pit...
    I'm not taking them because of LB lol, that would be ridiculous...yes the clown posse on SBR are on Pitt, but in my opinion, the way the line has been so far, it's asking for Stl money a game after they blow out Pitt game one

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    and cards bats are better than tampons..
    Burnett had awful numbers against them, and facing an ace like Wainright? However, Lynn is not even close. They had better options. Superior options for this game, and went with Lynn.

    Series will be tied 1-1 in a few hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bringdownthehous View Post
    I'm not taking them because of LB lol, that would be ridiculous...yes the clown posse on SBR are on Pitt, but in my opinion, the way the line has been so far, it's asking for Stl money a game after they blow out Pitt game one
    couldnt tell ya what the line is asking for, general it asking for even action and seeing how it has came down they have prob accomplished their goal..unlike the goof troop i actually cap the gms to determine who i think will win...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcene View Post
    Burnett had awful numbers against them, and facing an ace like Wainright? However, Lynn is not even close. They had better options. Superior options for this game, and went with Lynn.

    Series will be tied 1-1 in a few hours.
    how are cole's numbers again? oh that right he has only pitched against the cubs, pads, and brewers..lynn has shut down crutch and alverez..i guess you know better than the team what the best option for them is today,,you should send them a resume..

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    Pirates best records have been games 2 and 4 of a series. Been that way all year long.

    Cardinals were solid in game 1's all year, and were a coin toss in game 2 after winning game 1. Pitching edge favors Pirates today as well

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    your on the right side LB Pirates win easily, probably get to Lynn early

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    can't throw Beltran strikes today...if you walk him so be it, way too dangerous

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    How have rookie pitchers fared so far in the postseason this year?
    Considering we're only one game into the playoffs I really can't answer that, sorry.

    Even if I could, I'm not sure what relevance it would have to this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    how are cole's numbers again? oh that right he has only pitched against the cubs, pads, and brewers..lynn has shut down crutch and alverez..i guess you know better than the team what the best option for them is today,,you should send them a resume..
    Well you have no argument. Lynn's good starts in September were against the Cubs and twice against the Brewers. Before that he was awful against these Pirates in a big pressure start at the end of August

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcene View Post
    Pirates best records have been games 2 and 4 of a series. Been that way all year long.

    Cardinals were solid in game 1's all year, and were a coin toss in game 2 after winning game 1. Pitching edge favors Pirates today as well
    lol..incredibly relevant what gms teams played better in reg season series..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcene View Post
    Well you have no argument. Lynn's good starts in September were against the Cubs and twice against the Brewers. Before that he was awful against these Pirates in a big pressure start at the end of August
    your argument is essentially "pirates are good on fri when there a half moon"...

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    Books are begging for cards money.

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    The over analysis is just too funny.

    2dabank you made my point. Thanks. Now you just stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bringdownthehous View Post
    LOL neither of those comparisons make sense...Lin wasn't a rookie when he burst out, and Puig has had one game in the playoffs as a position player, so I dont think one game can determine him "crumbling", a whole series would maybe be more indicative
    I was referring to the adrenaline under the bright lights. Lin was not under bright lights in Golden State and Puig had ONE minute appearance in the postseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Books are begging for cards money.
    what they really would like is for you to actually bet all the stupid fukkin predictions you make around here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    The over analysis is just too funny.

    2dabank you made my point. Thanks. Now you just stop.
    how does LB dick taste?

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