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    What's more likely?? Jags 0-16 or Denver 16-0???? Great prop to make

    This has got to be kinda close don't you think?

    I would have to say Jaxx winning a game is more likely, but only by a slight margin. Denver really looks like a threat at running the table this year.

    Seems like a great prop for books to offer, doesn't it?

    Both sides have a legitimate shot.

    What's gonna happen first? A Broncos loss, or a Jags win?

    I'm going with Jags win.

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    0 chance Denver goes 16-0.

    I'm ready to fade in playoffs as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    0 chance Denver goes 16-0.

    I'm ready to fade in playoffs as well.
    I don't wanna fade Manning this time in the playoffs, although he's always been a cash cow for choking.

    The day Wes Welker signed with them after the Patriots wanted to act like tough guys who didn't need him my one desire to see happen in NFL this year was Welker jamming it in Brady and company's asspockets in the AFC finals.

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    Ben, Jax is better at sucking.

    So, I'd take the Jags going 0-16.

    Doesn't take much to stumble once and lose in the NFL.

    Take more to win a game.

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    Denver 16-0 more likely... jaguars will win atleast 1 game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamDiamond View Post
    Ben, Jax is better at sucking.

    So, I'd take the Jags going 0-16.

    Doesn't take much to stumble once and lose in the NFL.

    Take more to win a game.
    Quote Originally Posted by ApricotSinner32 View Post
    Denver 16-0 more likely... jaguars will win atleast 1 game.
    See, it's a great prop already.
    I can't really set a line for it.
    I think it's real close.

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    I fukked that up I mean its more likely that jags win one game than denver going 16-0 sorry not awake yet drinking coffee bennnnnnay

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    Anyone who really likes Denver can get them -1 in the SB right now...

    Via Bovada:

    SUPER BOWL XLVIII - Early Line
    1:01p AFC -1
    NFC +1

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    Neither has a chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    Neither has a chance

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    Jags 0-16 more likely. Jags have a tough schedule too. I can't find their win. Home vs. Arizona or Buffalo?

    Denver has plenty of chances to lose. @ Indy, SD, NE, KC, Hou. 5 tough road games.
    Last edited by d2bets; 10-01-13 at 08:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Jags 0-16 more likely. Jags have a tough schedule too. I can't find their win. Home vs. Arizona or Buffalo?

    Denver has plenty of chances to lose. @ Indy, SD, NE, KC, Hou. 5 tough road games.
    I dunno, teams slip up playing the worst teams in the NFL a lot. They don't take em seriously and end up getting embarrassed.
    BUT at the same time, every team will play 110% trying to beat Denver. They will get their opponent's best efforts every week this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyBigNuts View Post
    I dunno, teams slip up playing the worst teams in the NFL a lot. They don't take em seriously and end up getting embarrassed.
    BUT at the same time, every team will play 110% trying to beat Denver. They will get their opponent's best efforts every week this year.
    Yeah. It just seems like Denver has more losable games than Jax has winnable ones.

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    Unless Jax picks up another QB Jags 0-16 they want it

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    I say Jax

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    To answer the question according to sportsbook.ag they both have equal chances to perform the feat of going unbeaten or winless. Both given 10-1 chances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpickens View Post
    To answer the question according to sportsbook.ag they both have equal chances to perform the feat of going unbeaten or winless. Both given 10-1 chances.
    Seriously? I'd hammer Jags 0-16 at the 10-1. I guess I should run the numbers but that seems really good.

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    OK I ran the numbers on Jax, trying to be very generous to them and came up with +670 that they go winless. It's probably less as their stock keeps falling as they lose. So I think 10-1 is a great bet. Detroit had a winless season and this team is much worse.

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    I came up with Denver at 20-1 to go 16-0.

    No question 0-16 is more likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    OK I ran the numbers on Jax, trying to be very generous to them and came up with +670 that they go winless. It's probably less as their stock keeps falling as they lose. So I think 10-1 is a great bet. Detroit had a winless season and this team is much worse.
    Yep 10-1 for them to lose all games. I dont think it will happen but agree it is a more than fair price. They also have there over under of wins at 1.5. Over is -225 and under 1.5 is +175.

    Also over under of 2.5 wins price set at -130 for under. Maybe a take a shot play on the zero wins at 10-1 and a cover at under 2.5?

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    really good chance jags beat the lambs if ya ask me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    OK I ran the numbers on Jax, trying to be very generous to them and came up with +670 that they go winless. It's probably less as their stock keeps falling as they lose. So I think 10-1 is a great bet. Detroit had a winless season and this team is much worse.
    Detroit team was worse and had a tougher schedule because they had all good teams at the end of their schedule. Jacksonville last six games in order Cardinals, Texans, Browns, Texans, Bills, Titans, and Colts. Broncos 16-0 is more likely.

    2013 Jacksonville vs. 2008 Detroit

    QB Jacksonville has the advantage
    RB Jacksonville has the advantage
    WR Detroit had the advantage
    OT Jacksonville has the advantage
    TE Jacksonville has the advantage
    Defense Both teams defenses are/were god awful
    Coach Rod Marinelli was awful couldn't imagine Gus Bradley being as bad
    Schedule Jacksonville by a mile that 2008 Detroit schedule was brutal
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    I see 5dimes has Denver to go undefeated at +320. WTF is that?

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    getting blackmon back should make a decent difference, should open some space for mjd as he has to be respected outside and he is a beast once he gets the ball in his hands.. id take mjd, balckmon, and shorts over anything on offense lambs have to offer, qbs are pretty much a wash as bradford every bit as horrible as the clowns jags throwing out there..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpickens View Post
    I see 5dimes has Denver to go undefeated at +320. WTF is that?
    Do they have the other side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoYouNotGetIT View Post
    Detroit team was worse and had a tougher schedule because they had all good teams at the end of their schedule. Jacksonville last six games in order Cardinals, Texans, Browns, Texans, Bills, Titans, and Colts. Broncos 16-0 is more likely.

    2013 Jacksonville vs. 2008 Detroit

    QB Jacksonville has the advantage
    RB Jacksonville has the advantage
    WR Detroit had the advantage
    OT Jacksonville has the advantage
    TE Jacksonville has the advantage
    Defense Both teams defenses are/were god awful
    Coach Rod Marinelli was awful couldn't imagine Gus Bradley being as bad
    Schedule Jacksonville by a mile that 2008 Detroit schedule was brutal
    Project out the odds for each game in both scenarios and run the numbers and then come back to me and see if you still think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Do they have the other side?
    Not undefeated is -460.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Project out the odds for each game in both scenarios and run the numbers and then come back to me and see if you still think so.
    Gotta think the only games the Jags wouldnt be over a TD underdog are the 3 home games against Cards, Bills and Titans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpickens View Post
    Not undefeated is -460.
    Wow! That is a GREAT bet. So Sportsbook has +1000 undefeated and 5Dimes has -460 not undefeated?

    Might not be worth playing around with betting the large -'s, but I guarantee you can make money betting the -460 and then taking Denver ML each game (skip the Jax game). Limits will be a problem though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpickens View Post
    Not undefeated is -460.
    I don't see them going undefeated only way that line is worth it to bet is if you bet $2300 to win $500 ($2300 to win $2800), but you are going to have that money tied up from at least October 20th to December 12th at the latest. Don't see Cowboys beating the Broncos, but not out of the realm of possibility seeing how sporadic over the years the Cowboys have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Wow! That is a GREAT bet. So Sportsbook has +1000 undefeated and 5Dimes has -460 not undefeated?

    Might not be worth playing around with betting the large -'s, but I guarantee you can make money betting the -460 and then taking Denver ML each game (skip the Jax game). Limits will be a problem though.
    Only trouble is I see the max bet for both Jax to go winless and Denver undefeated is 50 bucks at sportsbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoYouNotGetIT View Post
    I don't see them going undefeated only way that line is worth it to bet is if you bet $2300 to win $500 ($2300 to win $2800), but you are going to have that money tied up from at least October 20th to December 12th at the latest. Don't see Cowboys beating the Broncos, but not out of the realm of possibility seeing how sporadic over the years the Cowboys have been.
    is that true? I mean, if Denver loses this week will they still hold it? Seems to me once they lose then they cannot go undefeated and the bet should settle. OTOH, if you take undefeated then obviously it can't payout quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpickens View Post
    Gotta think the only games the Jags wouldnt be over a TD underdog are the 3 home games against Cards, Bills and Titans.
    Jags team are better than that 2008 Detroit Lions team and they have a soft schedule. Jags going 0-16 is a sucker bet. Rams, Titans (twice), Cardinals, Browns, and Bills are all teams that I wouldn't trust as a favorite betting the spread and teams that are known to lose. Jaguars have played 3 good/great teams (Seahawks, Colts, and Chiefs) and 1 bad team (Raiders).

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    is that true? I mean, if Denver loses this week will they still hold it? Seems to me once they lose then they cannot go undefeated and the bet should settle. OTOH, if you take undefeated then obviously it can't payout quick.
    He posted -460 to not go undefeated are you that stupid to not know that $2300 to win $500 means you are laying a lot more money than you will receive?


    To bet $2300 on Broncos to go undefeated you would win $5060 or some people say $2300 to win $7360.

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    no chance Denver goes 16-0 Peyton does not want that kind of added pressure heading into the playoffs, they will lose at least 2 in the regular season

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