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    frogsrangers
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    TB @ TEX tomorrow.... Price vs. Perez

    Who do you have? Price has never pitched well vs. Texas... though Tampa Bay is 3-1 all time at Rangers Ballpark in playoff games, while unfortunately for the Rangers, Texas is 5-0 in Tampa.

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    this is technically not a playoff game, 40 man rosters still in effect

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    Can't Fukkin wait, love postseason/elimination baseball games

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    I think Texas is the play but what do I know

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    TB is in the air flying to Texas....FWIW

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    what determines which team gets home field advantage?

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    Rays easy.

    Ron washington. End of thread.


    Raysl rl all day.

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    Nelson Cruz back...leaning toward Texas. Rays may have some jet lag also

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    Lots of value on that line for the Rangers. Price hasn't pitched THAT well this year. One win in the last 6 starts, although he pitched well enough in four of them. Price 1-4 and an ERA nearly 6 vs the Rangers. Rangers are home underdogs going in with a 7 game win streak while the Rays basically lost their momentum by nearly getting swept by the Jays. Rays are only 40-41 this year on the road.

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    Perez is garbage, dont let his low ERA deceive you.

    This guy has given up MORE hits than IP, 14 HR in 119 IP (thats bad), and has issues with walks. I dont think a young guy like that will handle the pressure well. Better off going with a proven guy in Price.

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    Im taking the Rangers. Theyre the hotter team at the moment. Rays looked shaky in Toronto. Cant wait for this game gonna be a good one

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    I want some of whatever oddsmakers were smoking when they made this line. Texas should be the favorites here. They have homefield which is massive in these games, much better hitting, and much more reliable pen. The only Tampa edge would be Price over Perez but Price isn't that great this year. If Perez does struggle at all he's getting yanked quickly with the 40 man rosters. I don't see either starting pitcher getting rocked though. This game will be played conservatively with a bunch of sac bunts and stuff like that. It will prob be tied late and Texas walks off with it.

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    Moore should have started, he owns the the Rangers in Texas during the playoffs...if you consider this as a playoff game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Boy View Post
    Perez is garbage, dont let his low ERA deceive you.

    This guy has given up MORE hits than IP, 14 HR in 119 IP (thats bad), and has issues with walks. I dont think a young guy like that will handle the pressure well. Better off going with a proven guy in Price.
    NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND IM ON TEXAS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Boy View Post
    Perez is garbage, dont let his low ERA deceive you.

    This guy has given up MORE hits than IP, 14 HR in 119 IP (thats bad), and has issues with walks. I dont think a young guy like that will handle the pressure well. Better off going with a proven guy in Price.
    Behind Perez's 3.55 ERA is a 4.36 FIP and .302 BABIP. And he faltered in September with a .298 BAA and 1.48 WHIP though his ERA remained good. He hasn't given up fewer than 3 ERs in home starts since July, so a dominant performance tonight is highly unlikely. More likely is that Lady Luck catches up with him and/or as a rookie pitcher he falters under post-season pressure.

    Price has fared poorly against Texas, and especially in Arlington where over 4 GS he's racked up the highest ERA of any ballpark over his career -- a shocking 10.26. Current Rangers have hit him at .315, led by Alex Rios at .435. Cruz isn't shown in the table, but he's 6 for 12 lifetime vs. Price with 2 HRs.

    Price is better pitcher than that and I'd expect him to put the sins of his Texas past behind him and continue his recent series of strong perfomances.

    But numbers are numbers, I'll probably just enjoy the game.

    PA AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SH SF IBB HBP GDP missG
    Elvis Andrus 33 27 11 0 0 0 4 5 5 .407 .515 .407 .923 0 0 0 1 0
    Ian Kinsler 30 27 6 2 0 1 3 2 3 .222 .276 .407 .683 1 0 0 0 0
    Adrian Beltre 26 26 9 3 0 1 4 0 6 .346 .346 .577 .923 0 0 0 0 0
    Alex Rios 26 23 10 2 1 2 7 3 5 .435 .500 .870 1.370 0 0 1 0 1
    Craig Gentry 13 11 4 1 0 0 0 1 0 .364 .417 .455 .871 1 0 0 0 1
    David Murphy 12 10 2 1 0 0 2 1 5 .200 .250 .300 .550 0 1 0 0 0
    A.J. Pierzynski 12 10 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 .200 .273 .200 .473 1 0 0 1 1
    Mitch Moreland 5 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0
    Adam Rosales 5 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 .200 .200 .200 .400 0 0 0 0 0
    Geovany Soto 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .500 .500 .500 1.000 0 0 0 0 0
    Total 164 146 46 9 1 4 20 12 30 .315 .373 .473 .845 3 1 1 2 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Boy View Post
    Perez is garbage, dont let his low ERA deceive you.

    This guy has given up MORE hits than IP, 14 HR in 119 IP (thats bad), and has issues with walks. I dont think a young guy like that will handle the pressure well. Better off going with a proven guy in Price.
    pretty much. his ERA of 3.55 is kind of a fluke. has an FIP of 4.21 n xFIP of 4.06 with a strand rate around 80% (most likely cause of those walks, which pretty soon those runners aren't gonna stay stranded and will start crossing the plate)

    he's total hit or miss though cause he has nasty stuff when he is on, (strikes out nearly 6 per 9 innings but walks almost 3, with BABIP of .294 while hitters have an average of .266 against him and line drive rate of 20% and FB % of 30%) those last two would really scare me, backing him in a pressure situation in Arlington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Down_Goes Bookie View Post
    Behind Perez's 3.55 ERA is a 4.36 FIP and .302 BABIP. And he faltered in September with a .298 BAA and 1.48 WHIP though his ERA remained good. He hasn't given up fewer than 3 ERs in home starts since July, so a dominant performance tonight is highly unlikely. More likely is that Lady Luck catches up with him and/or as a rookie pitcher he falters under post-season pressure.

    Price has fared poorly against Texas, and especially in Arlington where over 4 GS he's racked up the highest ERA of any ballpark over his career -- a shocking 10.26. Current Rangers have hit him at .315, led by Alex Rios at .435. Cruz isn't shown in the table, but he's 6 for 12 lifetime vs. Price with 2 HRs.

    Price is better pitcher than that and I'd expect him to put the sins of his Texas past behind him and continue his recent series of strong perfomances.

    But numbers are numbers, I'll probably just enjoy the game.

    PA AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SH SF IBB HBP GDP missG
    Elvis Andrus 33 27 11 0 0 0 4 5 5 .407 .515 .407 .923 0 0 0 1 0
    Ian Kinsler 30 27 6 2 0 1 3 2 3 .222 .276 .407 .683 1 0 0 0 0
    Adrian Beltre 26 26 9 3 0 1 4 0 6 .346 .346 .577 .923 0 0 0 0 0
    Alex Rios 26 23 10 2 1 2 7 3 5 .435 .500 .870 1.370 0 0 1 0 1
    Craig Gentry 13 11 4 1 0 0 0 1 0 .364 .417 .455 .871 1 0 0 0 1
    David Murphy 12 10 2 1 0 0 2 1 5 .200 .250 .300 .550 0 1 0 0 0
    A.J. Pierzynski 12 10 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 .200 .273 .200 .473 1 0 0 1 1
    Mitch Moreland 5 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0
    Adam Rosales 5 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 .200 .200 .200 .400 0 0 0 0 0
    Geovany Soto 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .500 .500 .500 1.000 0 0 0 0 0
    Total 164 146 46 9 1 4 20 12 30 .315 .373 .473 .845 3 1 1 2 3
    should have saw this before I started typing junker buried

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    O7.5 all day.

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    Game has a lot of hype around it... Too bad it will compete with MNF

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    TB Rays are garbage. texas wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snakedrew View Post
    O7.5 all day.
    think so too. Playing first five over 3.5.

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    If you took Texas when it opened around +125 you have a good play. At plus money Texas probably a little value still, but not much.

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