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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post

    if obamacare is so wonderful, why did he have to bribe fellow democrats to vote for it and why are hundreds of companies exempt?

    Sammy asked Brocker the same thing about all of those waivers/exemptions

    Brocker said he had no idea and hadnt a clue about the details of ObamaCare BUT Brock said if Obama wants it it must be good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Sammy asked Brocker the same thing about all of those waivers/exemptions

    Brocker said he had no idea and hadnt a clue about the details of ObamaCare BUT Brock said if Obama wants it it must be good
    he has unconditional love for Barrack as we all know.

    The fact is simple, both parties are filled with crooks and liars. Rather than coming to a overwhelming agreement on healthcare reform, they will play politics instead. Technically they work for the people but reality is completely different.

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    ACA ...
    Just another huge windfall for corporate insurance.

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    Dwight... Elected Dem or Repub

    99% of 'em are low-life MFers

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    How many times is it that Congress has tried and failed to repeal Obamacare? Buffoons.

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    It was no question that Brock is a liberal with ZERO political knowledge.

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    Obamacare is bad but not having anything else as alternate is worse.

    Why didn't the Republicans offer their own plan all these years? Having no plan doesn't mean everything was good.

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    Anyone who says go ask a health care professional aka doctor about Obamacare is good or bad. They will always say it is bad, because in the long run it will reduce health care salaries (reduce = stagnant and not increase with inflation). More people on Medicare/Medicaid = less money for doctors.

    If you are a single person 18+ and make less than $15,900 or for each member of your family add $5,000 to $15,900 if you make less than that amount CONGRATULATIONS YOU QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID IN 2014. Depends if your state is fighting Obamacare or not. But if it is not congrats on your free healthcare.

    Also the money is already spent so scrapping Obamacare now is just a massive waste of tax dollars. What I am saying is you already paid for all these 2014, 2015, and so on Medicaid users with your taxes/tax debt.
    Last edited by DoYouNotGetIT; 09-25-13 at 01:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoYouNotGetIT View Post
    Anyone who says go ask a health care professional aka doctor about Obamacare is good or bad. They will always say it is bad, because in the long run it will reduce health care salaries (reduce = stagnant and not increase with inflation). More people on Medicare/Medicaid = less money for doctors.

    If you are a single person 18+ and make less than $15,900 or for each member of your family add $5,000 to $15,900 if you make less than that amount CONGRATULATIONS YOU QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID IN 2014. Depends if your state is fighting Obamacare or not. But if it is not congrats on your free healthcare.
    Medicaid isn't free. If I qualified I've paid into it for well over a decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoYouNotGetIT View Post

    ...congrats on your free healthcare.

    Free ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Free ???
    For the people who receive it free for them. They obviously aren't paying for it. The goal of Obamacare is to make medicare/medicaid so big that we will be like the rest of the world and able to negotiate down prices with doctors, drug companies, and medical equipment companies. Eventually we will become a socialized health care system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Obamacare is bad but not having anything else as alternate is worse.
    I guess that is the acceptable level of competence expected from politicians.

    I can only imagine going to work and your boss critiquing your work last month like you mentioned. Pavy, last month was atrocious, you suck balls, everyone complains about you, clients won't deal with our company because of you but but not having anyone else as alternate is worse.

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    Basically this is bad for the 300 million with current insurance but good for the 40 million who didn't have it. And what makes it worse is that the ones pushing for this plan - are all asking to be exempted because they know it reduces their own current plans.

    The mistake made was by effecting EVERYONE and not just focusing on a smaller option for those with nothing to begin with. Symbolically this is cutting one ball off of two healthy mean and giving the two to the man with none...therefore making the already impotent person the beneficiary at the cost of the other two fertile men. If you have planned and worked and been smart your whole life you can already afford health care.....if you are among the majority of the average workforce and middle class, your get a plan from your employer....but if you shitt the bed in life and have no skills or value to offer and still want what others have - you win here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
    Basically this is bad for the 300 million with current insurance but good for the 40 million who didn't have it. And what makes it worse is that the ones pushing for this plan - are all asking to be exempted because they know it reduces their own current plans.

    The mistake made was by effecting EVERYONE and not just focusing on a smaller option for those with nothing to begin with. Symbolically this is cutting one ball off of two healthy mean and giving the two to the man with none...therefore making the already impotent person the beneficiary at the cost of the other two fertile men. If you have planned and worked and been smart your whole life you can already afford health care.....if you are among the majority of the average workforce and middle class, your get a plan from your employer....but if you shitt the bed in life and have no skills or value to offer and still want what others have - you win here.
    True and not true, because the reality of our current healthcare system is we pay way beyond the price for services rendered compared to every other country. Which is currently on a unsustainable rate which would cripple the government because even now they are the biggest insurance company with medicare/medicaid. The problem is we have hundreds of private insurance companies negotiated against themselves raising the rates for US citizens for doctors, drugs, and medical equipment. The current rate is unsustainable. Poor people now just lie about their personal information (name, birth date, SSN) and get admitted to a hospital and we the tax payer and people with private insurance pay for that hospitalization. We either have to get socialized medicine or stop treating people who don't have insurance in a hospital. All hospitals have to accept patients with life threatening medical problems and most public hospitals will accept anyone with any medical problem.

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    You people DO realize the USA is one of 2 countries in the world where health care is not, at least before this, guaranteed as a right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    I guess that is the acceptable level of competence expected from politicians.

    I can only imagine going to work and your boss critiquing your work last month like you mentioned. Pavy, last month was atrocious, you suck balls, everyone complains about you, clients won't deal with our company because of you but but not having anyone else as alternate is worse.
    Ironically, this is basically how we feel about Pavy's posting career.

    He sucks balls and everyone complains about him. We tried to send him away to gaylive full time, but even they didn't want him. So we're basically stuck with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    You people DO realize the USA is one of 2 countries in the world where health care is not, at least before this, guaranteed as a right?
    It shouldn't be. You have that now. Walk into any hospital and they can't by law refuse to treat you. Don't pay and the tax payers pay. Simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opie1988 View Post
    Ironically, this is basically how we feel about Pavy's posting career.

    He sucks balls and everyone complains about him. We tried to send him away to gaylive full time, but even they didn't want him. So we're basically stuck with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It shouldn't be. You have that now. Walk into any hospital and they can't by law refuse to treat you. Don't pay and the tax payers pay. Simple.
    it should be provided along the SAME levels that we have firemen and policemen....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It shouldn't be. You have that now. Walk into any hospital and they can't by law refuse to treat you. Don't pay and the tax payers pay. Simple.
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    Brock, there are people in the US that work hard to make a living and don't want to be paying for fukin derelects to get their leg fixed after getting into a fukin latino gang bang shootout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It shouldn't be. You have that now. Walk into any hospital and they can't by law refuse to treat you. Don't pay and the tax payers pay. Simple.
    Wrong private hospitals can refuse non-life threatening conditions. Go online and look at 5 private hospital reviews you will see at least 1 person writing negative reviews saying they were refused treatment. Most public hospitals will accept anyone with any kind of medical condition. All hospitals have to accept patients with life threatening medical conditions.

    People who pay for this are tax payers and private health insurance customers.

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    there's no good reason that the U.S. doesn't have a better healthcare system.

    there's no good reason both parties can't come up with a plan that is good for the vast majority of Americans.

    there's no good reason for voting Obama again in 2012.


    some things just can't be explained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    Brock, there are people in the US that work hard to make a living and don't want to be paying for fukin derelects to get their leg fixed after getting into a fukin latino gang bang shootout.
    You are already paying for that moron, that is the problem. Any hospital in the US cannot refuse to treat him, because he is in a life threatening condition. Problem is to keep costs down you either have to refuse all of these non-insured people at hospitals or you have to have socialized medicine. There is no middle ground here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoYouNotGetIT View Post

    For the people who receive it free for them. They obviously aren't paying for it.

    “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.” - Lady M.T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    ok, tell me whats wrong with it!

    Please...i'm all ears
    you do understand what its doing to small businesses don't you?

    maybe do some research pal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.” - Lady M.T.
    Great quote coming from a person who supported socialized medicine dumb@$s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoYouNotGetIT View Post

    Great quote...



    And the truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Obamacare is bad but not having anything else as alternate is worse.

    Why didn't the Republicans offer their own plan all these years? Having no plan doesn't mean everything was good.
    u know why Pavy it is to keep those profits coming to the big CEO of the health care industry. U see the righties step by step parroting their views from Fox when they have no idea what affordable care act really is. U see how they are all programed into thinking the Gov't can't run anything. Of course the Gov't can't when u have a group of assholes on one side undermining everything they can. The postal service was just fine until these assholes snuck a poison pill of a bill back in ole Georgies day, that makes the postal service fund benefits 75 years in advance. No corporation on this planet is held to those standards but because the Postal union is one of the biggest the so called shitbags who always cry "the Gov't can't run anything" have under-minded the postal service. These assholes who parrot "the Gov't can't run anything" are the same pussies who will call their socialize cops when they hear a cricket make a noise out front of their house. They keep going after the affordable care act cause they know the people will eventually like it and they can't have that. They can't have regular people saving money while the big dogs have to take a little cut. Phony fuks who have their braindead followers loading up their trunks with cash and the followers are to stupid to even realize it. I know a girl who hates the affordable care act with vengenace. The same girl is now getting her birth control pills for free, Her son is still on her insurance until he is 26, and she is so sick she already blew that 1 million dollar cap on health insurance yet now doesn't have to worry about that. Yet she hates Obama care. That is what the country deal with. Unreachable asshats.

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    Would all the Canadians, Britts, Germans, and the rest step up and tell us how awful their socialize health care is please. I don't think i will get much of a response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post

    U see the righties step by step parroting their views from Fox when they have no idea what affordable care act really is.

    Like the Libs on SBR do...

    Trouble is... NO ONE knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post

    Would all the Canadians, Britts, Germans, and the rest step up and tell us how awful their socialize health care is please. .

    Not ObamaCare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    You people DO realize the USA is one of 2 countries in the world where health care is not, at least before this, guaranteed as a right?
    Yeah, we sure do have a far, far worse health care system than Zimbabwe.

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