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    The Oakland Raiders Should Be Booted From The NFL

    Seriously.

    I cannot think of another franchise, in any sport, that has been this bad for this long.

    The word pathetic would be an understatement.

    Look at this fukkin roster and projected starters and tell me they are a professional football team.

    Starters

    Offense-Projected Starters

    QB-Matt Flynn/Tyler Wilson
    RB-Darren McFadden
    FB-Marcel Reese
    OL-Jared Veldheer
    OL-Tony Bergstrom
    OL-Stefen Wisniewski
    OL-Mike Brisiel
    OL-Khalif Barnes
    TE-Richard Gordon
    WR-Denarius Moore
    WR-Jacoby Ford

    Defense-Projected Starters

    DE-LaMarr Houston
    DT-Pat Sims
    DT-Vance Walker
    DE-Jason Hunter
    LB-Nick Roach
    LB-Kaluka Maiava
    LB-Kevin Burnett
    CB-DJ Hayden
    S-Charles Woodson
    S-Tyvon Branch
    CB-Mike Jenkins

    Boys, I will FUKKING AMAZED if that team can win 3 games this year.

    Unfukkinreal. Things actually got worse after Al died when everybody said he was the problem.

    Guess not.

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    Just outta curiosity what odds would you give for over 3 1/2 lol

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    Super Bowl bound

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    Oakland Raiders offense looks better than the Eagles. Flynn > Vick; DMC > Shady; Raiders WR's and O-Line is better too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    I cannot think of another franchise, in any sport, that has been this bad for this long.
    Really? How about the Cleveland Browns for one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxx View Post
    Really? How about the Cleveland Browns for one.
    Since 2003

    Cleveland Oakland

    5-11 4-12
    4-12 5-11
    6-10 4-12
    4-12 2-14
    10-6 4-12
    4-12 5-11
    5-11 5-11
    5-11 8-8
    4-12 8-8
    5-11 4-12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Proffett View Post
    Oakland Raiders offense looks better than the Eagles. Flynn > Vick; DMC > Shady; Raiders WR's and O-Line is better too.
    What?

    DMC can't ever play a full season. The guy is an injury waiting to happen.

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    Number of games McFadden plays this year

    Over 7.5 +500
    Under 7.5 -350

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    Since 2003

    Cleveland Oakland

    5-11 4-12
    4-12 5-11
    6-10 4-12
    4-12 2-14
    10-6 4-12
    4-12 5-11
    5-11 5-11
    5-11 8-8
    4-12 8-8
    5-11 4-12
    What's the significance of going back to 2003?

    Why not 2002?

    And, if you look at most recent history---- say, the last 5 years----

    Oakland is 7 games better than Cleveland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamDiamond View Post
    What's the significance of going back to 2003?

    Why not 2002?

    And, if you look at most recent history---- say, the last 5 years----

    Oakland is 7 games better than Cleveland.
    Exactly, why 10 years? When was the last time Cleveland won a playoff game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Number of games McFadden plays this year

    Over 7.5 +500
    Under 7.5 -350
    he's so useless; the guy is always hurt with something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    What?

    DMC can't ever play a full season. The guy is an injury waiting to happen.
    i read somewhere that the offense is going back to their previous run block scheme when run dmc was effective. things could happen in oakland again, but not worth the risk to me.

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    Great arb right there! Also; Flynn gonna do work with this team mang!

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    Al Davis lost it the past ten years. The Raiders are having to make up for many of Al's terrible decisions,contracts, and draft choices.

    Over the past ten seasons, Oakland has the third worst straight-up record in the NFL, 31.3% winning percentage, behind Cleveland.

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    Philly shut your punk ass up...did u cop that weak crack on south st again in philly? damn fiend

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    Lol really?? The past 10 years have been real bad with the exception of a couple decent seasons. But what about the previous 40 when we were one of the best and most consistent franchises? Most teams have been thru bad stretches like this but since its the Raiders people expect more. If this were Tampa, Jets, Browns etc nobody would think anything of it.

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    Fyi McKenzie is cleaning up the mess Davis made with some desperate moves in his last years and these things do not happen over night. Going into next year we should have a decent foundation in place ecs with another draft. More important we will have about 50 million to spend in the off-season!

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    The best Oakland has done over the past 10 seasons is two 8-8 years.

    Don't know why you are picking on the Jets, who have 5 winning seasons over the past 10 years, and Tampa Bay, who has four winning seasons. Even Cleveland had a 10-6 season over that period.

    Oakland is the ONLY team that has NOT had a winning record in any season over the past ten years.

    McKenzie is doing the right thing and there will be light at the end of the tunnel.

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    I say 4-12

    Its the NFL though so who knows, maybe Flynn plays welll

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    The buffalo bills are worse

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    I like the O-line, the secondary might be good too. But, Flynn is not a franchise QB. Maybe 5-7 wins tops.

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    if it weren't for senile al, the starters would probably be jay cutler, adrian peterson and michael crabtree... so, it is kinda his fault.

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    This is hilarious coming from an eagles fan... a team that hasn't even won a superbowl. Your team will be equally embarassing this year.

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    i love how raider fans bring up the last 40 years, 3 superbowls blah blah blah, talk about NOW you guys are counted for to LOSE. u dont improve no metter what coach, what stars, these last couple years Raiders just suck, i give 4 Ws at the most 0-6 in the division, Ur grandma might of been bangable 40 years ago, not anymore

    p.s. GO CHARGERS!

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    Bottom line Felipe is the Oakland Raiders are one of the most important franchies in the NFL. The league NEEDS this team to be relevant again and they will be. And the Chargers really?!? Lol how SB's have they won again? Look at lousy teams like Philly, KC, Dolts, Miami, Browns, Jets, etc all teams have been around forever and have either never won a SB or have not since man landed on the moon. Been a tough 10 year run no doubt but this team is going nowhere but up in the future. And Felipe yes we do talk about our past with great pride.... but unlike most at least we have a past and legacy to talk about!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felipe4realz View Post
    i love how raider fans bring up the last 40 years, 3 superbowls blah blah blah, talk about NOW you guys are counted for to LOSE. u dont improve no metter what coach, what stars, these last couple years Raiders just suck, i give 4 Ws at the most 0-6 in the division, Ur grandma might of been bangable 40 years ago, not anymore

    p.s. GO CHARGERS!
    When has The chargers done something? Since the Seau Days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wojo View Post
    Al Davis lost it the past ten years. The Raiders are having to make up for many of Al's terrible decisions,contracts, and draft choices.

    Over the past ten seasons, Oakland has the third worst straight-up record in the NFL, 31.3% winning percentage, behind Cleveland.
    This is all true. Outside of the ridiculous DJ Hayden pick, I think Oakland drafted very well especially Sio Moore. That kid is going to be a household name in 3 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by R.P. McMurphy View Post
    Most teams have been thru bad stretches like this but since its the Raiders people expect more. If this were Tampa, Jets, Browns etc nobody would think anything of it.
    Nobody has expected anything out of the Raiders in the last 10 years except to leave the draft with the fastest 40 time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.P. McMurphy View Post
    Bottom line Felipe is the Oakland Raiders are one of the most important franchies in the NFL. The league NEEDS this team to be relevant again and they will be. And the Chargers really?!? Lol how SB's have they won again? Look at lousy teams like Philly, KC, Dolts, Miami, Browns, Jets, etc all teams have been around forever and have either never won a SB or have not since man landed on the moon. Been a tough 10 year run no doubt but this team is going nowhere but up in the future. And Felipe yes we do talk about our past with great pride.... but unlike most at least we have a past and legacy to talk about!
    Why does the NFL need the Raiders to be relevant? There's nothing special about the Raiders at this point.

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    We have one of the biggest fan bases, one of the leagues most storied franchises, marketing. Pretty simple! We are like the Yankees, and Lakers in many ways. You either hate us or love us and their is always intrigue. Cannot count how many times I have heard sports analysts say the same even a Raider hater like Schlereth has said it Andy.

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    I thought they looked pretty decent last night.

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    They better start Pryor

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.P. McMurphy View Post
    We have one of the biggest fan bases, one of the leagues most storied franchises, marketing. Pretty simple! We are like the Yankees, and Lakers in many ways. You either hate us or love us and their is always intrigue. Cannot count how many times I have heard sports analysts say the same even a Raider hater like Schlereth has said it Andy.
    Raiders attendance numbers say otherwise. The Raiders are not the Yankees and Lakers, that's the Cowboys. The Raiders are irrelevant at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Proffett View Post
    Oakland Raiders offense looks better than the Eagles. Flynn > Vick; DMC > Shady; Raiders WR's and O-Line is better too.
    You are wrong about every one of those statements

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