1. #1
    Swarles
    Swarles's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-26-13
    Posts: 102
    Betpoints: 694

    Overrated : Matt Harvey

    I mean but for reals, you can argue that he is undefeated... and that he had the best start to the early season of any pitcher, but every single time he is about to get destroyed he gets yanked. They are saving his record, to make him look better? Most likely.

  2. #2
    Bluehorseshoe
    Bluehorseshoe's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-13-06
    Posts: 14,930
    Betpoints: 1515

    You realize he's gone at least 5 innings every game he's pitched this year?

  3. #3
    Gus Fring
    Gus Fring's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-21-13
    Posts: 3,423
    Betpoints: 745

    Marlins +1.5 today?

  4. #4
    Emancipator
    Emancipator's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-12-13
    Posts: 788
    Betpoints: 996

    Public 90+ percent on NYM and with the line dropping 40 pts, Miami became a good play

  5. #5
    ROYAJA8
    ROYAJA8's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-23-09
    Posts: 2,069
    Betpoints: 257

    This kid is the real deal. No chance of him being overrated. Too bad he has to play for the sorry mets.

  6. #6
    nvrlose37
    nvrlose37's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-01-12
    Posts: 2,730

    Patrick Corbin is def pitching better than Harvey.

  7. #7
    You mad bro
    You mad bro's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-15-12
    Posts: 16,641
    Betpoints: -23

    Quote Originally Posted by nvrlose37 View Post
    Patrick Corbin is def pitching better than Harvey.
    Idiot .. Corbin's team is 10x better than the mets also ....

  8. #8
    Swarles
    Swarles's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-26-13
    Posts: 102
    Betpoints: 694

    Not an idiotic statement, someone check to see who has gone farther into games with fewer hits.. If you're interested.
    Corbin v Harvey

  9. #9
    nvrlose37
    nvrlose37's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-01-12
    Posts: 2,730

    Quote Originally Posted by You mad bro View Post
    Idiot .. Corbin's team is 10x better than the mets also ....
    Who the hell cares if Dbacks are better, Corbin dominates on the mound regardless of the bats.

  10. #10
    konck
    Listen the toilet is flushing
    konck's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 10-17-06
    Posts: 12,551
    Betpoints: 2287

    U fuk you had to post this now ....your a stupid ass making stupid post. Im a Mets fan on the fish today but not because Harvey is overated he isnt he is a star your a fukin moron to even think otherwise plus you have no clue on pitching this kids FB and Slider are huge. Thanks for the stupid fukin post you will snab Harvey and the Mets to a win

  11. #11
    You mad bro
    You mad bro's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-15-12
    Posts: 16,641
    Betpoints: -23

    Quote Originally Posted by nvrlose37 View Post
    Who the hell cares if Dbacks are better, Corbin dominates on the mound regardless of the bats.
    Better offense also helps out pitchers .. Harvey gives up 1 run he could get a loss .. Unlike your boy Corbin ... Fckn moron

  12. #12
    Gus Fring
    Gus Fring's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-21-13
    Posts: 3,423
    Betpoints: 745

    Quote Originally Posted by Gus Fring View Post
    Marlins +1.5 today?

  13. #13
    OMGRandyJackson
    OMGRandyJackson's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-07-10
    Posts: 1,680
    Betpoints: 4054

    Quote Originally Posted by You mad bro View Post
    Better offense also helps out pitchers .. Harvey gives up 1 run he could get a loss .. Unlike your boy Corbin ... Fckn moron
    It helps pitchers in a meaningless true stat category. W-L records is not a true indicator of how good a player is....

  14. #14
    YouHave2outs
    YouHave2outs's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-02-11
    Posts: 4,448
    Betpoints: 198

    Matt Harvey has filthy, filthy....FILTHY stuff

    /thread

  15. #15
    stevenash
    stevenash's Avatar Moderator
    Join Date: 01-17-11
    Posts: 62,368
    Betpoints: 32811

    Quote Originally Posted by Swarles View Post
    Not an idiotic statement, someone check to see who has gone farther into games with fewer hits.. If you're interested.
    Corbin v Harvey
    Idiot
    Harvey has gone 7 + innings 8 times this year so far, (nine if he pitches into the seventh today)
    Corbin six times.

    Look at Harvey's previous four starts. You'll answer your own question.

    Harvey has given up 63 hits in 89 innings. Corbin 63 hits in 81 innings.

    One more thing, I am hardly a Mets fan, but I have seen six of Harvey's starts, he was in deep shit in at least 3 games I've seen this year, including last inning of this game, each and every time, Collins left him in, and each and every time Harvey bailed him self out, including that game he schooled Stras. Harvey has yet to be yanked when in trouble this year, not once.

    Most idiotic statement of the year is "They are saving his record, to make him look better?

    WOW, that statement is so stupid on so many levels.

    You don't watch much baseball or Mets game, do you?

    Your post is one of the most ignorant of the year
    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: Phildo

  16. #16
    You mad bro
    You mad bro's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-15-12
    Posts: 16,641
    Betpoints: -23

    Quote Originally Posted by OMGRandyJackson View Post
    It helps pitchers in a meaningless true stat category. W-L records is not a true indicator of how good a player is....
    Pitching with a 1 run lead opposed to a 3-4 run lead is helps a pitchers mental state on the mound .. Another idiot

  17. #17
    JerseyLove
    JerseyLove's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-15-10
    Posts: 2,183
    Betpoints: 61

    Wtf ??????

  18. #18
    eidolon
    USA
    eidolon's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-02-08
    Posts: 9,531
    Betpoints: 15766

    Quote Originally Posted by Swarles View Post
    I mean but for reals, you can argue that he is undefeated... and that he had the best start to the early season of any pitcher, but every single time he is about to get destroyed he gets yanked. They are saving his record, to make him look better? Most likely.
    You know the Mets have arguably the worse bullpen in MLB right?
    So that statement makes no sense.

  19. #19
    Monchito
    Easy Come Easy Go
    Monchito's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-20-11
    Posts: 1,922
    Betpoints: 2485

    Overrated

  20. #20
    Monchito
    Easy Come Easy Go
    Monchito's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-20-11
    Posts: 1,922
    Betpoints: 2485

    How Many wins Harvey get it if plays with St Louis ? at least 12 xD

  21. #21
    HardCore
    I Win Some, I Lose Less
    HardCore's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-05-12
    Posts: 3,615
    Betpoints: 72

    if Harvey was on stl his lowest ml would be -250 no matter where he pitched.

  22. #22
    HardCore
    I Win Some, I Lose Less
    HardCore's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-05-12
    Posts: 3,615
    Betpoints: 72

    The guy gets -200 ml's on mia lol just pitcher him on the cards or the Reds or even the yankees oh wait just wait 2-3 more years and he'll be in pin stripes. He always talks about being a yankee fan and loving them all his life

  23. #23
    konck
    Listen the toilet is flushing
    konck's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 10-17-06
    Posts: 12,551
    Betpoints: 2287

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Idiot
    Harvey has gone 7 + innings 8 times this year so far, (nine if he pitches into the seventh today)
    Corbin six times.

    Look at Harvey's previous four starts. You'll answer your own question.

    Harvey has given up 63 hits in 89 innings. Corbin 63 hits in 81 innings.

    One more thing, I am hardly a Mets fan, but I have seen six of Harvey's starts, he was in deep shit in at least 3 games I've seen this year, including last inning of this game, each and every time, Collins left him in, and each and every time Harvey bailed him self out, including that game he schooled Stras. Harvey has yet to be yanked when in trouble this year, not once.

    Most idiotic statement of the year is "They are saving his record, to make him look better?

    WOW, that statement is so stupid on so many levels.

    You don't watch much baseball or Mets game, do you?

    Your post is one of the most ignorant of the year
    Steve gets it

  24. #24
    face
    face's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-31-11
    Posts: 14,740
    Betpoints: 201

    wrong he is good

  25. #25
    Swarles
    Swarles's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-26-13
    Posts: 102
    Betpoints: 694

    What's with the rage kids? You all need to settle your shit. Maybe cry a few less rivers over how much you love Harvey's rooster.

  26. #26
    TheCentaur
    TheCentaur's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-28-11
    Posts: 8,108
    Betpoints: 68

    D Wright walk off home run here

  27. #27
    stevenash
    stevenash's Avatar Moderator
    Join Date: 01-17-11
    Posts: 62,368
    Betpoints: 32811

    Quote Originally Posted by Swarles View Post
    What's with the rage kids? You all need to settle your shit. Maybe cry a few less rivers over how much you love Harvey's rooster.
    No rage, and not on his rooster. Harvey is not overrated, far from it.
    Nobody is jumping ugly on Corbin either, he's another feel good story.

    What I do have a problem with is some of your statements, if you did a little bit of homework, you wouldn't have made those statements.

  28. #28
    No coincidences
    Baseball at The Corner
    No coincidences's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-18-10
    Posts: 76,300
    Betpoints: 16541

    If Harvey is overrated, then literally everyone is.

    The kid is a monster. If you've watched him pitch and know the game, it doesn't take long to realize he's something special.

  29. #29
    Swarles
    Swarles's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-26-13
    Posts: 102
    Betpoints: 694

    Look, all im saying is that anytime he gets into a bad situation further into a game, nearing an 100+ pitch count, he gets yanked. I just think its funny. I mean kudos to the coaching staff for getting him out of there in time to have a chance to win. But ive bet on plenty of games where I watch idiotic coaches leave pitchers in to give them a chance to save the game themselves and they blow it. Harvey has been pulled in three different situations this year where he was an out into an inning.

    But i guess we shouldnt throw out statistics, because you can make any stat lie to you.

    Like corbin has more hits in those innings, but he also has fewer earned runs.

    81.2 Innings - 18 ER Corbin

    83 Innings - 20 ER Harvey ...... From my sources, those couldve changed by now.

    I agree that Harvey is a very talented player, but he is just too overrated by my standards. People talk about him like its Jesus walking. When he has an achilles heel for the Marlins. But i guess every pitcher has a team they are weak against.

    Corbin is overlooked. Or was at least, he will be blown up by the next time he pitches now that people realize he exists. I didnt hear anything about him when he was 6-0, 7-0 and he was pitching much better at those points.

  30. #30
    KingJD31
    KingJD31's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-04-11
    Posts: 8,167
    Betpoints: 7042

    Ban this piece of shit

  31. #31
    Swarles
    Swarles's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-26-13
    Posts: 102
    Betpoints: 694

    Yes, ban me. For I am a piece of shit.

  32. #32
    TheCentaur
    TheCentaur's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-28-11
    Posts: 8,108
    Betpoints: 68

    Lead off double Mets can't even advance the runner, put down a bunt maybe

    unreal

  33. #33
    stevenash
    stevenash's Avatar Moderator
    Join Date: 01-17-11
    Posts: 62,368
    Betpoints: 32811

    Quote Originally Posted by Swarles View Post
    Look, all im saying is that anytime he gets into a bad situation further into a game, nearing an 100+ pitch count, he gets yanked. I just think its funny. I mean kudos to the coaching staff for getting him out of there in time to have a chance to win. But ive bet on plenty of games where I watch idiotic coaches leave pitchers in to give them a chance to save the game themselves and they blow it. Harvey has been pulled in three different situations this year where he was an out into an inning.

    But i guess we shouldnt throw out statistics, because you can make any stat lie to you.

    Like corbin has more hits in those innings, but he also has fewer earned runs.

    81.2 Innings - 18 ER Corbin

    83 Innings - 20 ER Harvey ...... From my sources, those couldve changed by now.

    I agree that Harvey is a very talented player, but he is just too overrated by my standards. People talk about him like its Jesus walking. When he has an achilles heel for the Marlins. But i guess every pitcher has a team they are weak against.

    Corbin is overlooked. Or was at least, he will be blown up by the next time he pitches now that people realize he exists. I didnt hear anything about him when he was 6-0, 7-0 and he was pitching much better at those points.
    Psychobabble.
    You are pretty much clueless.
    You do realize he's been 'yanked' only 3 times in 12 starts.The other nine starts he was relieved for in the top of the inning before the inning started.

    From your sources? What sources?
    BTW, Harvey has a superior WH/IP, which is more important than ERA

  34. #34
    stevenash
    stevenash's Avatar Moderator
    Join Date: 01-17-11
    Posts: 62,368
    Betpoints: 32811

    Quote Originally Posted by Swarles View Post
    Yes, ban me. For I am a piece of shit.
    You are not a PoS, you are just baseball ignorant is all

  35. #35
    No coincidences
    Baseball at The Corner
    No coincidences's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-18-10
    Posts: 76,300
    Betpoints: 16541

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Psychobabble.
    You are pretty much clueless.
    You do realize he's been 'yanked' only 3 times in 12 starts.The other nine starts he was relieved for in the top of the inning before the inning started.

    From your sources? What sources?
    BTW, Harvey has a superior WH/IP, which is more important than ERA
    Corbin's agent.

12 Last
Top