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    Iverson's fall from grace: UNIQUE IN SPORTS HISTORY?

    Just last season he started in the all-star game, earned $21 million, and was on a team that had been to the conference finals six straight years.

    This year he's lucky to earn $3.5 million as a reserve for the Grizzlies (the only team that actively pursued him). They were the only team willing to pay him a measly $3.5 million to play for them, just one year after he earned $21 million dollars!

    Can anyone remember a fall from grace like this in any sport, this fast (with the possible exception of a debilitating injury)? In one season he'll have gone from an all-star starter earning $21 million a year to a reserve for the worst team in the league!

    I think this situation may be unique in all sports history.
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    Roger Clemens could have earned $50 million or more in 2 or 3 years if it hadn't been for his steroid scandal.

    Iverson has an opportunity to take the Grizz up to a .500 team and demonstrate his value to every GM in the NBA.

    It would not surprise me at all if AI has a great season and negotiates a 1-year contract with a championship-contending team in 2010. Iverson loves money, but he wants a ring to secure his legacy. Unfortunately, I think he is on the same road as Karl Malone: you didn't make winning a ring a priority soon enough, and now you are just an old former superstar trying to get a ring when you have nothing left to actually make it happen.

    But no, this is hardly the worst fall from grace in history. Rather typical, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickelicious View Post
    But no, this is hardly the worst fall from grace in history. Rather typical, actually.
    Please give examples that don't include major injuries (Iverson's injury was minor) or scandals please. You have to give examples where the facts approximately match what happened to Iverson:

    All star starter and one of the highest payed players in the league to bench player for the worst team in the league in one year without a major injury or a scandal.

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    Pedro Martinez - a 8 time All-Star and 3 time Cy Young winner came off a $13M+ salary with the Mets and sat on his arse for most of this season since nobody wanted him before taking a $1M contract with the Phillies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tacomax View Post
    Pedro Martinez - a 8 time All-Star and 3 time Cy Young winner came of a $13M+ salary with the Mets and sat on his arse for most of this season since nobody wanted him before taking a $1M contract with the Phillies.
    Sounds good but did Martinez make the all-star team the year before he signed the $1 million deal?

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    I can't think of anyone. The crazy thing is that AI is on the decline but is still a good player. I'm actually shocked that he had little interest from other teams.

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    He is a team killer and into himself which is a recipe for failure in the NBA. He was not a true all star last year and was voted in by the fans. He was vastly overpaid last year. He is worth about 3 million a year ad a role player.

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    I actually think that AI will have somewhat of a decent season!

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    i would play for 3.5 million

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    he's got enough money.. probably doesnt want to take a bunch of PED's in order to compete.. Pedro has no problem taking them.. as you can see he is back to throwing in the low 90's.. old men dont just find their fastball again..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaneDawg View Post
    i would play for 3.5 million
    So would 99.999....% of the world would. Does anyone remember when Latrell Sprewell was offered like $7 million a year and he turned it down and said "I've got to feed my family", anyone remember the specifics of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fearless View Post
    So would 99.999....% of the world would. Does anyone remember when Latrell Sprewell was offered like $7 million a year and he turned it down and said "I've got to feed my family", anyone remember the specifics of that?
    Wolves offered him a 3 year $21 million extention before the last year of his contract which he made around $12 million a year. He had a bad year in his final year and no one would offer him more than the mid level exception. He was 34 or 35 years old and his skills were declining so not sure why he thought he was worth so much. After no one signed him, he became irrelavant and never received any offers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fearless View Post
    So would 99.999....% of the world would. Does anyone remember when Latrell Sprewell was offered like $7 million a year and he turned it down and said "I've got to feed my family", anyone remember the specifics of that?

    Yeah, that was hilarious, laughed everytime I saw it..

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    I got you; Derrick Brooks.

    Will be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

    Selected to ELEVEN PRO BOWLS, including the 2008 season, in which he had 73 tackles with a forced fumble and an interception.

    CUT by the team he spent his entire career with. Not re-signed anywhere.

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    The girl in your avatar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3Sports View Post
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    AI has been declining for years. His worth was more from a good agent than talent.
    How about the last three number 1-2 NBA draft picks. World beater potential to nothing.

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    Im a Griz fan live near Memphis at the Griz games when we get to 100 pts everyone gets something from Taco Bell. When the Griz break 100 they yell for the 100 pts it's usually the only thing to root for .....this year with AI/GAY/RANDOLF/MAYO They are thinking of making it 170 lol for just plain Nacho's
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasDave View Post
    I got you; Derrick Brooks.

    Will be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

    Selected to ELEVEN PRO BOWLS, including the 2008 season, in which he had 73 tackles with a forced fumble and an interception.

    CUT by the team he spent his entire career with. Not re-signed anywhere.

    What do I win?
    All I can do is post the TSoprano smiley in your honor:


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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasDave View Post
    I got you; Derrick Brooks.

    Will be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

    Selected to ELEVEN PRO BOWLS, including the 2008 season, in which he had 73 tackles with a forced fumble and an interception.

    CUT by the team he spent his entire career with. Not re-signed anywhere.

    What do I win?
    Forgot to give you credit about this one, nicely done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fearless View Post
    All I can do is post the TSoprano smiley in your honor:

    Great thread though, took some thinking!

    Most falls are indeed from serious injury or scandal. Nagging injuries wear you down, but like you said, not this fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickelicious View Post
    Roger Clemens could have earned $50 million or more in 2 or 3 years if it hadn't been for his steroid scandal.
    huh?

    Clemens retired at 43

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    Shaun Alexander exited stage left pretty swiftly. Goes from MVP to not being able to gain a yard for the Skins last year.

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