1. 02-11-13 08:23 PM #1
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    Why was Michael Borne allowed to sign with Cleveland?

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb...2_a8&eref=sihp

    I don't get why 1)Atlanta didn't resign one of their more important hitters and 2)how he lasted this long unsigned till Cleveland scooped him up.

    thats a hell of a pickup for the tribe!
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  2. 02-11-13 08:28 PM #2
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    he was one of the Free Agents that got a 1 year 13.3 year qualifying offer from their old team. So that when they turn it down, the old team now gets a 1st round draft pick as compensation from the signing team.

    so Cleveland doesn't just pay the $ they lose a pick.

    that is why he was still around as are others
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  3. 02-11-13 08:33 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    he was one of the Free Agents that got a 1 year 13.3 year qualifying offer from their old team. So that when they turn it down, the old team now gets a 1st round draft pick as compensation from the signing team.

    so Cleveland doesn't just pay the $ they lose a pick.

    that is why he was still around as are others
    name some of the other guys still out there....
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  4. 02-11-13 08:33 PM #4
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    That's why you are not a GM Brock.
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  5. 02-11-13 08:35 PM #5
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    I know you have refreshed about 16,000 Braves box scores in the last couple years...

    No excuse to spell his name wrong here...

    Common!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    he was one of the Free Agents that got a 1 year 13.3 year qualifying offer from their old team. So that when they turn it down, the old team now gets a 1st round draft pick as compensation from the signing team.

    so Cleveland doesn't just pay the $ they lose a pick.

    that is why he was still around as are others
    this and i think hes represented by BORAS
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    Pumped as a Cleveland fan.
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  8. 02-11-13 08:37 PM #8
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    Indians were in unique position where they only had to give up their 3rd rounder. Still a shocking move for the frugal Indians.
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  9. 02-11-13 08:38 PM #9
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    Tweet of the night came from Jason Kipnis... "We just signed Michael Bourn?? " "I just went from 6 to midnight!"
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  10. 02-11-13 08:49 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    That's why you are not a GM Brock.
    to brock's defense there are about 51,236 other reasons why he's not a gm
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  11. 02-11-13 08:50 PM #11
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    it its crazy though how weve seen the value of a first round pick in the mlb rise over the last 8 or so years....kids are being moved so much quicker
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  12. 02-11-13 08:53 PM #12
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    Go Tribe
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  13. 02-11-13 09:09 PM #13
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    Funny comparison:

    Player A ; age 25-29 692g 290/357/390 223SB 15.2 fWAR
    Micheal Bourn; age 26-30 749g 272/338/365 257 SB 17.4 fWAR

    Similar players only player A was a slightly worse defender but a better hitter with better plate discipline - but offers a major lesson in what can happen.
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  14. 02-11-13 11:23 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    I know you have refreshed about 16,000 Braves box scores in the last couple years...

    No excuse to spell his name wrong here...

    Common!!!
    Just like he meant to say Bourn did you mean to say "Come on" becuase Common just doesnt make sense unless its a inside joke or something. But hes a nice leadoff hitter im surprised they let him go also. Wasnt like they werent spending tons of money this offseason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBRMAN23 View Post
    Just like he meant to say Bourn did you mean to say "Come on" becuase Common just doesnt make sense unless its a inside joke or something. But hes a nice leadoff hitter im surprised they let him go also. Wasnt like they werent spending tons of money this offseason.

    yep, inside joke

    JJGold used to spell it like that unintentionally and it caught on
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  16. 02-11-13 11:34 PM #16
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    wow indians finally got someone good. great outfielder, better than shelley duncan
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    common archer let the guy figure it out on his own
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  18. 02-12-13 12:17 AM #18
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    Guys like Bourne are a diamond dozen...

    As HGH testing improves, more of the "Bourne's" of the world will surface...

    No one was jobbed more than my boy Chuck Carr!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    Guys like Bourne are a diamond dozen...

    As HGH testing improves, more of the "Bourne's" of the world will surface...

    No one was jobbed more than my boy Chuck Carr!!!
    oh man chuckie fuckin carr....love it!...guys like chuckie carr are broke while a guy like michael bourn wont have to worry....
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    although if i could die and come back as one player today...it would be dwayne hosey no doubt...not dwayne wade....not dwayne wayne...not dwayne.....dwayne hosey
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  21. 02-12-13 04:35 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb...2_a8&eref=sihp

    I don't get why 1)Atlanta didn't resign one of their more important hitters and 2)how he lasted this long unsigned till Cleveland scooped him up.

    thats a hell of a pickup for the tribe!
    The guy is an over rated toilet ....I mean if you want to pay 12 mill a yr for 270 with 4 hrs go ahead im glad the Mets backed off. Nice call Brock figures you would like this dik. !2 mill to play def and steal smc
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  22. 02-12-13 05:28 AM #22
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    yeah braves thought he was too old and he was too expensive for a leadoff hitter makes since why they didnt resign
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  23. 02-12-13 07:28 AM #23
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    The Braves did offer him a qualifying contract which, I believe, was 13.3M for one year. That's why Cleveland has to give up their #69 pick. Boras just had him convinced that he'd get so much more than 4/48 that he turned it down.

    It's a great pickup for Cleveland and again goes to show how underrated speed and defense is in the game. They might just compete this year.
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  24. 02-12-13 07:51 AM #24
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    Bourn is nothing special. I think Tribe overpaid for him and they lose a draft pick. He probably hits .270 for them and maybe steals 40 bases.

    This is one of the problems in sports today. Organizations don't want to take the time to develop players through the draft. Everything they do is for the short term. They are like children and/or heroin addicts in that they are only thinking for today. When this signing goes south they will be lining up next year to sign the next bust.
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  25. 02-12-13 09:12 AM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    name some of the other guys still out there....
    I think Kyle Lohse is the only name left

    Quote Originally Posted by ProfaneReality View Post
    Indians were in unique position where they only had to give up their 3rd rounder. Still a shocking move for the frugal Indians.
    our



    Overall, Bourn isn't going to put them in a position to win the division, but this should make them a bit more of a possibility for that 2nd WC spot should a few things bounce their way. Bauer turning into an ace, being one of them. Masterson/Ubaldo/Myers is a pretty awful rotation
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    Michael Bourn was allowed to sign with the tribe because he's not very good /end thread
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  27. 02-12-13 10:04 AM #27
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    My Braves still take the title this year.
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  28. 02-12-13 10:17 AM #28
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    I'm assuming the braves offered Bourn a similar contract to what they offered BJ Upton, and Boras shut it down. The braves were not going to overpay and as a Braves fan I am glad. Bourn is good, but not that good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pluthero View Post
    The Braves did offer him a qualifying contract which, I believe, was 13.3M for one year. That's why Cleveland has to give up their #69 pick. Boras just had him convinced that he'd get so much more than 4/48 that he turned it down.

    It's a great pickup for Cleveland and again goes to show how underrated speed and defense is in the game. They might just compete this year.


    12 million/year for 4 years is way better than 13.3 for one, for an aging speedster so Boras did a pretty good job

    Quote Originally Posted by MrPlow456 View Post
    I'm assuming the braves offered Bourn a similar contract to what they offered BJ Upton, and Boras shut it down. The braves were not going to overpay and as a Braves fan I am glad. Bourn is good, but not that good.

    he was offered 13.3 million for ONE YEAR, Upton got 15 million for 5 years.
    they only offered the 13.3 so they could be sure to get a draft pick as compensation for him. they were 99.9% sure he would turn it down
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  30. 02-12-13 12:08 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb...2_a8&eref=sihp

    I don't get why 1)Atlanta didn't resign one of their more important hitters and 2)how he lasted this long unsigned till Cleveland scooped him up.

    thats a hell of a pickup for the tribe!
    Have you been under a rock? They signed both upton brothers and already have heyward, why would they keep him? After his hot start, he played terrible the final 100 games last season!!!
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    and now you know why

    fukkin choke...of all the things to not do right there is k
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  32. 10-02-13 09:22 PM #32
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    yeah that was terrible. i was debating whether to make a "really bourne" thread but this will do

    already blew him away first at bat, just make contact bro......
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    Awful
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  34. 10-02-13 09:48 PM #34
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    i have cobb u6 k's and boourn almost lost the entire bet for me

    just hit a flyout, which for him is a major success
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