1. 02-01-13 02:49 PM #1
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    Seton Hall only +4 vs Cincy WTF

    How are they only getting 4?
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  2. 02-01-13 02:50 PM #2
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    Little light, play Cincy ML

    Big East rigs endings
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  3. 02-01-13 02:51 PM #3
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    where are you seeing lines for tomorrow?
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  4. 02-01-13 02:52 PM #4
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  5. 02-01-13 02:54 PM #5
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    Kenpom has Cincy winning 67-61
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  6. 02-01-13 02:56 PM #6
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    Not far off if any.....maybe 5.
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  7. 02-01-13 03:00 PM #7
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    Kempom is a joke
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  8. 02-01-13 03:40 PM #8
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    Sounds right, and no Ken Pom is not a joke.
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  9. 02-01-13 03:47 PM #9
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    whats the best home dog tomorrow?
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  10. 02-01-13 04:09 PM #10
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    because cincy is awful as a big fave, if the line was 7 or 8 i wouldve been all over s hall, 4 is not enough though, cincy is good but bad as a big fave
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  11. 02-01-13 04:33 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    Kempom is a joke
    Um...WHAT? Openers are almost within 1.5 points of his numbers. But forget that, the data at his site is priceless
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  12. 02-01-13 04:41 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    Kempom is a joke
    What data sites do you use then?
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  13. 02-01-13 04:43 PM #13
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    Cincy isnt that good.
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    Cincy is the best!
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  15. 02-01-13 08:03 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    Kempom is a joke
    vegas uses him for their lines
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  16. 02-01-13 08:06 PM #16
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    Cincy has never beaten seton hall at seton hall.
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  17. 02-01-13 10:56 PM #17
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    Take a look at their Depaul games with both on the road. Cincy isn't that good. And like sportsguy04 said...they have never beaten Seton Hall at Seton Hall. I may not pull the trigger on this play but I think the spread is accurate.
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  18. 02-01-13 11:06 PM #18
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    -5.5 now
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  19. 02-02-13 01:21 AM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    Kempom is a joke
    You do realize oddsmakers use his numbers almost to the T for their sides and totals, right?
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  20. 02-02-13 01:26 AM #20
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    Yeah.. I realize it, guys. If his line is -4 and Vegas throws at -5.. Wtf is the play? No leverage. I mean be serious. The line is so similar it really has no advantage.

    He isn't gunna have cinci a 4 PT dog and cincy will be favored by 6 by Vegas.

    No angle is that strong, too close to Vegas lines
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  21. 02-02-13 01:26 AM #21
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    Landers uses it, enough said.
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  22. 02-02-13 01:32 AM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    Yeah.. I realize it, guys. If his line is -4 and Vegas throws at -5.. Wtf is the play? No leverage. I mean be serious. The line is so similar it really has no advantage.

    He isn't gunna have cinci a 4 PT dog and cincy will be favored by 6 by Vegas.

    No angle is that strong, too close to Vegas lines
    You don't get it. We're not saying it's a coincidence that the lines are so close, or that you can use KenPom's numbers vs. Vegas' lines to your advantage. You can't. KenPom is Vegas, for all intents and purposes. Oddsmakers cheat off his work and set the line based on his predictions.
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  23. 02-02-13 02:02 AM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    You don't get it. We're not saying it's a coincidence that the lines are so close, or that you can use KenPom's numbers vs. Vegas' lines to your advantage. You can't. KenPom is Vegas, for all intents and purposes. Oddsmakers cheat off his work and set the line based on his predictions.
    So why is it so vital?
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  24. 02-02-13 02:40 AM #24
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    damm u guys gona make me pass on this one
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  25. 02-02-13 04:17 AM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    You don't get it. We're not saying it's a coincidence that the lines are so close, or that you can use KenPom's numbers vs. Vegas' lines to your advantage. You can't. KenPom is Vegas, for all intents and purposes. Oddsmakers cheat off his work and set the line based on his predictions.
    He really should be capitalizing on this. He could at least make a salary from them since hes doing most of their work
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  26. 02-02-13 06:21 AM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    Yeah.. I realize it, guys. If his line is -4 and Vegas throws at -5.. Wtf is the play? No leverage. I mean be serious. The line is so similar it really has no advantage.

    He isn't gunna have cinci a 4 PT dog and cincy will be favored by 6 by Vegas.

    No angle is that strong, too close to Vegas lines
    But you said "kenpom is a joke". Fact that openers almost clone him proves otherwise. And like I said, his value is not in the line setting because whenever there is a big difference from the real line, there is usually a legitimate reason. His value is in the data at his site, which will make you a better handicapper.
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  27. 02-02-13 08:15 AM #27
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    Guys don't explain it to him if they don't have $20 to fork over for Kenpom that's their loss

    This is the first year I bought Kenpom and I can say the data available really is priceless its helped me tremendously

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  28. 02-02-13 08:24 AM #28
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    This BigDeem kid doesn't even know what KenPom is. He's just a kid, let him be stupid. We were all stupid kids one day.
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  29. 02-02-13 08:25 AM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    So why is it so vital?
    He just spelled it out for you.
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  30. 02-02-13 03:13 PM #30
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