1. 01-29-13 11:28 PM #36
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    He won't be a factor in the game anyways.
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  2. 01-29-13 11:34 PM #37
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    If Ray used something to come back from the torn-tri, what did AP use to come back from a shredded ACL and win MVP? Hard to believe that was done naturally...
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  3. 01-29-13 11:36 PM #38
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    Who gives a F*#k, any premier athlete in Ray's position would have been looking for the best way to get back into the game. If he din't test positive for a banned substance- leave it alone.....
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  4. 01-29-13 11:37 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    If Ray used something to come back from the torn-tri, what did AP use to come back from a shredded ACL and win MVP? Hard to believe that was done naturally...
    It wasn't "natural". He had a world class surgeon reconstruct his knee.

    I think the next "performance enhancing" wave won't be from substances per se, but from procedures performed by doctors to alter the body to allow you to run faster, jump higher, see better, etc. Gonna be tough to regulate that.
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  5. 01-29-13 11:38 PM #40
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    using hgh to recover from injuries is medical science... it should be legal
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  6. 01-30-13 08:42 AM #41
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    How is a pill helping you recover from injury a performance enhancing drug? I mean if you have a stroke and the doctor gives you blood thinners is he enhancing your performance?
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  7. 01-30-13 09:00 AM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walulu View Post
    Hopefully Ray Ray goes out like he should - losing.
    he will,,,,,,,,
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  8. 01-30-13 10:37 AM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    How is a pill helping you recover from injury a performance enhancing drug? I mean if you have a stroke and the doctor gives you blood thinners is he enhancing your performance?
    exactly... tech. tommy john surgery is performance enhancing
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  9. 01-30-13 10:44 AM #44
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    Glorified cheerleader.

    No difference if he's on the field or on the sidelines.
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  10. 01-30-13 10:58 AM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Glorified cheerleader.

    No difference if he's on the field or on the sidelines.
    K.you seem skeered............
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  11. 01-30-13 11:10 AM #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    He won't be a factor in the game anyways.
    Let him play.

    If they push the issue, he files an appeal, and plays anyway.
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  12. 01-30-13 11:11 AM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    He won't be a factor in the game anyways.
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  13. 01-30-13 11:52 AM #48
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    Its a secret society.
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  14. 01-30-13 12:39 PM #49
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    The fact the NFL doesn't test for HGH should tell you all you need to know.

    Get over it... your favorite football player (whoever he is) is hopped up on something to make him perform better.

    And what does that mean? Nothing...

    Because if you were in the same spot, you would do the same thing to. Whether you will admit it or not.

    When you doing your job better than the guy one spot down on the depth chart is the difference between you sitting at home on sunday or getting a few extra million... I think that decision gets really easy to make. Especially when then the league doesnt test for HGH and doesn't perform certain types of testing

    Get off your high horse.

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  15. 01-30-13 12:43 PM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick22 View Post
    The fact the NFL doesn't test for HGH should tell you all you need to know.

    Get over it... your favorite football player (whoever he is) is hopped up on something to make him perform better.

    And what does that mean? Nothing...

    Because if you were in the same spot, you would do the same thing to. Whether you will admit it or not.

    When you doing your job better than the guy one spot down on the depth chart is the difference between you sitting at home on sunday or getting a few extra million... I think that decision gets really easy to make. Especially when then the league doesnt test for HGH and doesn't perform certain types of testing

    Get off your high horse.

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    i agree, but the secret society shit gets old.
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  16. 01-30-13 01:07 PM #51
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    Yea. that wasn't directed at you or anything
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  17. 01-30-13 02:04 PM #52
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    The ENTIRE nfl has used hgh. Go ahead and skapegoat ray lewis. It doesn't change the fact that almost EVERY SINGLE PLAYER in the nfl used hgh, either at the pro level, or in college. They don't test for it. NFL Player's association warned the league that if they tested for hgh, they would have to cancel football because everyone would test positive.

    Who cares is ray lewis used some deer antler spray? The entire league is juicing. Including your favorite team and all your favorite players.

    Should we all stop watching football?
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  18. 01-30-13 02:36 PM #53
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    http://deadspin.com/5980173/the-hate...e-to-ray-lewis
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  19. 01-30-13 02:40 PM #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    America, land of the dope cheats.

    And even worse than East Germany's cheating, so many American people actually just brush it off with a "what can you do"...

    Americans could do what most other countries do. Man up and stop cheating!
    Optional I say let them push the envelope of synthetic human enhancement. Let them pump themselves so full of juice that one day a player simply drops dead in the middle of the field from complications of excessive drug abuse.

    Only then will people take real notice...
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  20. 01-30-13 02:40 PM #55
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    I love me some hate that is constantly being spewed for my boy Ray Ray............

    This can only mean one thing...........

    And that is Ray Ray is winning!!!
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  21. 01-30-13 03:00 PM #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    I love me some hate that is constantly being spewed for my boy Ray Ray............

    This can only mean one thing...........

    And that is Ray Ray is winning!!!
    the guy should really kill himself, for someone who said that he was talking to god for 8 hours a day and training the other 8 but was really just using banned substances should be so ashamed he should hang it up. If he doesnt than he is a fraud with u
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  22. 01-30-13 03:07 PM #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell88 View Post
    the guy should really kill himself, for someone who said that he was talking to god for 8 hours a day and training the other 8 but was really just using banned substances should be so ashamed he should hang it up. If he doesnt than he is a fraud with u
    Winners are never ashamed......

    Only peasants who shame the winners are shamed themselves and of....................
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  23. 01-30-13 04:09 PM #58
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    They are all using some PED, that is not the issue, I just hope Lewis has to sit out to end his career in embarrassment and humiliation.
    He is a thug who had blood on his coat and in his limo, told everyone in the limo to shut the f*ck up "or else", then when cornered, copped a plea, sold out his friends in a murder case. So f*ck him.
    What I hate is how the sports media has slobbered over him as a leader and highlighted him so often, made him a big star.
    SURE, acknowledge he played well, in fact great for a long time.... but do not kiss his ass and interview him 1,000 times a yr and make him a hero.
    SO again, yep, most of those guys are on HGH or something... but he was the one who got off the hook in a murder case and all of that....
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  24. 01-30-13 04:15 PM #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbone View Post
    , sold out his friends in a murder case.
    This is what the higher up does in all organizations pal..........

    The lower ranked soldiers always take the hit for the higher ranked,

    this is the rule of the street and military...............
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  25. 02-02-13 11:39 AM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    This is what the higher up does in all organizations pal..........

    The lower ranked soldiers always take the hit for the higher ranked,

    this is the rule of the street and military...............
    true enough, but no-one took the "hit", still an unsolved murder case, would you think that way Pauly, if they were your kids lying dead in the alley ???
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