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    How long before Jay Cutler is run out of Chicago?

    I say he barely makes it the year. What a douche. He throws in an interception and than kind of lays blame on Hester for not breaking it up. What an a sshole. I saw the play and you knew it was getting intercepted the minute he chucked it.
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    About 16 weeks after Kyle Orton is kicked off the field in Denver.

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    Perhaps a few years after they have a WR with more than 12 career catches

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    Give it a bit. They have had so many terrible QB's there he might look pretty good by the start of the season.

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    I don't see it. He got his way when he complained in Denver and he's going to do it again. I'm bumping this thread somewhere mid season.
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    In Denver he was a good quarterback on a crappy team. In Chicago's he's an average quarterback on an average team.

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    He is a loser, always was

    Secondly he is not a cold weather QB especially because he throws a hard ball.

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    I don't understand why people are so quick to criticize Cutler, he is one of the better QBs in the NFL. He is a HUGE upgrade over what Bears had, and what is wrong with the numbers he has put up in his career?

    Relax guys, I have a Bears +1450 to win NFC Future to cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    I don't understand why people are so quick to criticize Cutler, he is one of the better QBs in the NFL. He is a HUGE upgrade over what Bears had, and what is wrong with the numbers he has put up in his career?

    Relax guys, I have a Bears +1450 to win NFC Future to cash.
    I don't think he's a bad quarterback and I also agree he did a good job in Denver, but he's very immature and I think that's why Denver was looking to move him for Cassel. The guy is a baby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    I don't think he's a bad quarterback and I also agree he did a good job in Denver, but he's very immature and I think that's why Denver was looking to move him for Cassel. The guy is a baby.
    im from chicago and here is my thought on that;lovie smith is too damn patient with these quarterbacks so im sure he will definetly make it through the year or god forbid.him getting hurt.lol as bad as he looks .its not his fault ,we have no recievers besides our tight ends and that wont get it done.ive sat through many years of terrible quarterbacks and he is the only one who has any potential to throw a long pass on a regular basis.dont get me wrong .im not a cutler fan by no means but we are use to having inferior quarterbacks that couldnt hold the jocks of the defense

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    after getting Cutler in the offseason most bears fans I know were ready to buy super bowl tickets... they are starting to sour on his personality... but IF the bears win, that will all be forgotten

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    Cutler is solid but no one to throw to. He's going to see very quickly how much of a security blanket he had with marshall out in Denver...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMBlai01 View Post
    Cutler is solid but no one to throw to. He's going to see very quickly how much of a security blanket he had with marshall out in Denver...
    chicago has always had a reputation of not having a quarterback so recievers wouldnt sign with us,now that we have a decent[still trying to prove himself]quarterback we have no recievers.as good as our tight ends are ,they wont be able to get it done.unless one of our recievers has a greta year,its another losing season

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    He is a loser, always was

    Secondly he is not a cold weather QB especially because he throws a hard ball.
    yea that makes sense

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    good thing brett favre didn't throw hard in cold weather

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    cutler will be fine

    no great but adequate

    he needs some wr help

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    Quote Originally Posted by oiler View Post
    chicago has always had a reputation of not having a quarterback so recievers wouldnt sign with us,now that we have a decent[still trying to prove himself]quarterback we have no recievers.as good as our tight ends are ,they wont be able to get it done.unless one of our recievers has a greta year,its another losing season
    I think Chicago will be fine. This is just pre season. No way you can pencil in a losing season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    I don't see it. He got his way when he complained in Denver and he's going to do it again. I'm bumping this thread somewhere mid season.
    Didn't he start to complain AFTER he found out that the team was trying to trade for Matt Cassel and replace him?? I don't know.....that seems like something that a starting QB might want to complain about.

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    i've always heard cutler is a douche

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    I think Chicago will be fine. This is just pre season. No way you can pencil in a losing season.
    as long as our defense rises to the occasion every week like it usually does,cutler will be fine but when the defense starts to sour then cutler will press.remember now we got to the superbowl with rex grossman and i like to think cutler is a notch above grossman

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    Quote Originally Posted by smarmy View Post
    Didn't he start to complain AFTER he found out that the team was trying to trade for Matt Cassel and replace him?? I don't know.....that seems like something that a starting QB might want to complain about.
    You're not suppose to!! There's trade rumors all the time and you notice other players reacting the way he did?
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    im a bears fan and from what i have seen he will be better than anything we have had since jim mcmahon. also when favre had that rocket arm in gb did he make those receivers good or the other way around. how much did they do without him?

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    I've been unimpressed with Cutler for a while.
    We hit the quinella in Denver getting rid of both morons at once. I couldn't be happier.

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    Chicago Bears Quarterbacks 1979-2008
    by Roy Taylor 2007
    By popular demand, I had to update this article to reflect changes in 2008. I certainly wish we were talking about Rex Grossman having success as a 16-game starter in 2007, leading the Bears to another Super Bowl, but as we all know the situation has been far from that. The Chicago Bears have now changed their starting quarterback 42 times since 1992, by my count.
    We've had a lot of questions here on the number of starting quarterbacks the Bears have had, mainly since Brett Favre's reign of terror began. We'll do that one better and go back to 1979 in chronological order. Why 1979? Surely the story goes back much farther than that, but that's when I started watching Bears football as an eight-year-old.
    Please note: this article does not reflect the three 1987 replacement games during the player's strike. Why not? Well, this article reflects the rediculous number of changes the Bears have made to their starting quarterback when they should have been able to control it. Many teams probably tried a few different replacement quarterbacks during those three games, so I'm not including that.
    Mike Phipps, Purdue: The Bears traded their 1978 first and fourth-round draft choices to the Cleveland Browns for the eight-year veteran. Phipps started the 1979 season, yielded to Vince Evans and Bob Avellini, then started the team's final eight games to guide Chicago to a wild-card playoff berth. He started the first six games of the 1980 season before again giving up the job to Evans. His last season was in 1981. Traded for: 1977 Started in: 1978-1980 Released: 1981
    Vince Evans, USC: Evans relieved Phipps in game two of the 1979 season, started the next three, then was lost for the year with a staph infection. The strong-armed, athletic signalcaller from USC was drafted by the Bears in 1977 in the sixth round. He would become just one of three Chicago quarterbacks in the 27 years between 1979 and 2005 to start all 16 games in a season (1981). After his Bears career ended, Evans played in the USFL then had a miraculous run in Los Angeles/Oakland for the Raiders, lasting until 1995. Drafted: 1977 (6) Started in 1978-1981, 1983 Released: 1983
    Bob Avellini, Maryland: Avellini was part of the miracle draft class of 1975, picked in the sixth round. He became the starter that year, not yielding until the end of the 1978 season. Avellini sat on the bench from 1980-1981, but was given a shot as Mike Ditka's first starting quarterback in 1982. Perhaps he shouldn't have, as his nose was broken by the Detroit Lions in that season's opening game. He backed up Jim McMahon and Evans throughout 1983, but in 1984 he made his final start as a Bear against Seattle. Following the 38-9 loss, Mike Ditka said "good riddance" to Avellini. Drafted: 1975 (6) Started in: 1975-1979, 1984 Released: 1984
    Jim McMahon, BYU: McMahon is heralded as one of the best two Chicago Bears quarterbacks in their 87-year history (along with Sid Luckman (1939-1950). Indeed, McMahon is the only Bear quarterback to be selected to a Pro Bowl in the modern era. McMahon was known for brilliant football smarts when he stepped to the line to look over the defense. His problem was not being able to stay healthy. From 1984-1987 McMahon won 21 straight regular season games as a starter. But he also missed 29 possible starts during that timeframe. Following a disappointing NFC Championship Game loss to San Francisco in 1988, McMahon was traded to San Diego. Drafted: 1982 (1) Started in: 1982-1988 Traded: 1989
    Steve Fuller, Clemson: Fuller was acquired from the LA Rams via trade prior to the 1984 season to serve as insurance for the oft-injured Jim McMahon. Fuller promptly separated his shoulder in the preseason. He then played adequately in relief of McMahon from 1984-1986. He was on the roster but injured in 1987. Traded for: 1984 Started in: 1984-1986 Released: 1987
    Rusty Lisch, Notre Dame: Not much to say here. Pressed into service in 1984, Lisch started against the Packers and lost. His performance was so dismal that day, Ditka had to sign an aged Greg Landry to play the final game against Detroit, which Landry won. Signed: 1984 Started in: 1984 Released: 1985
    Greg Landry, Massachusetts: Landry completed 11 of 20 passes for 199 yards, 3 interceptions and a touchdown in his lone start (and appearance) as a Bears quarterback in the 1984 finale. He joined Mike Ditka's staff the following season, serving as quarterbacks coach and later offensive coordinator. Signed: 1984 Started in: 1984 Retired: 1984
    Mike Tomczak, Ohio State: Tomczak was signed as an undrafted free agent in 1985. The Bears cut Rusty Lisch very shortly after acquiring Tomczak. He would get in for mopup duty in 1985, then actually started seven games in 1986 and six in 1987. In 1988, the good friend of McMahon's shared time with the veteran, starting Chicago's playoff victory in the Fog Bowl over Philadelphia. He entered 1989 as the starter, yielded to Jim Harbaugh briefly, then lost the starting quarterback battle to Harbaugh in 1990. Following that season, he was designated for Plan B Free Agency and picked up by Green Bay. Signed: 1985 Started in: 1986-1990 Designated for Plan B: 1991
    Doug Flutie, Boston College: Flutie was deemed too small and short to play quarterback in the NFL. Ditka created an uproar when he started Flutie in the 1986 season finale and the playoff loss to the Washington Redskins. Flutie was traded to the New England Patriots during the 1987 player's strike, spent many years in the Canadian Football League (CFL), then found late success with the Buffalo Bills and San Diego Chargers. He retired following the 2005 season, when in his last play as an NFL player, he drop-kicked an extra point. Traded for: 1986 Started in: 1986 Traded: 1987
    Jim Harbaugh, Michigan: Legend has it that Ditka threatened to quit when he was overruled in the draft room about taking Harbaugh with the 26th pick of the 1987 draft. Harbaugh was vilified at times by Bear fans, but is still the team's all-time leader in attempts, completions and ranks second to Luckman in passing yards. After Harbaugh's seven seasons in Chicago, he signed with Indianapolis where he was voted to the Pro Bowl following the 1995 season. Drafted: 1987 (1) Started in: 1988-1993 Released: 1994
    Peter Tom Willis, Florida State: Like all other backup quarterbacks, Willis was a very popular backup to fans: until he played. He got his chance to start in 1992 when a frustrated Ditka benched Harbaugh. Willis played pedestrian at best, throwing eight interceptions and four touchdowns in two starts. Drafted: 1990 (3) Started in: 1992-1993 Released: 1994
    Will Furrer, Virginia Tech: Furrer was a strong-armed left-handed quarterback with promise. The promise faded in his only start, Ditka's last game at Dallas. He completed 9 of 25 passes for 89 yards and three interceptions against the Super Bowl-bound Cowboys. Drafted: 1992 (4) Started in: 1992 Released: 1993
    Erik Kramer, North Carolina State: Kramer would be known as one of the top three quarterbacks in Bears history, with McMahon and Luckman, if he could have done it for more than one year. Kramer piloted Ron Turner's first brilliantly successful offense in 1995, setting Bears season records for attempts, completions, yards and touchdown passes. But he was hurt in 1994, 96, and 98. His original three-year deal, inked in 1994, was extended for two more in '98, but he was cut after the first year. Signed: 1994 Started in: 1994-1998 Released: 1999
    Steve Walsh, Miami: Signed as a backup to Kramer in 1994, Walsh took over after a Kramer injury and guided the team to its first playoff appearance since 1991. And its last playoff win since then. He lost the battle for the starting job in 1995 to Kramer and warmed the bench that season. Signed: 1994 Started in: 1994 Lost to free agency: 1996
    Dave Krieg, Milton College: Kreig was so old when the Bears signed him in 1996 that the college he played for no longer had a football team as of that point. 1996 was his 17th season in the NFL, and he was signed strictly as a backup. With the Chicago Bears, however, that is an expectation to be playing by game five. That's exactly what happened when a struggling Kramer was lost for the season with a neck disc injury. Signed: 1996 Started in: 1996 Not re-signed: 1997
    Rick Mirer, Notre Dame: Dave Wannstedt's Chicago epitaph says something about trading for Rick Mirer. Mirer's cost was a first-round pick, the 11th in the draft. He lasted one hideous, awful season in Chicago. He didn't even start the season, as Kramer was healed and Mirer looked terrible. Traded for: 1997 Started in: 1997 Released: 1998
    Steve Stenstrom, Stanford: Stenstrom was one of several intriguing quarterbacks selected in the fourth round of the 1995 draft. Kansas City drafted him, then tried to quickly release him to re-sign him to a lower salary that year. The Bears jumped at the chance to steal the guy praised by Bill Walsh as a budget Joe Montana. Stenstrom was putrid in his 1998 starts, relieving an again-injured Kramer. Walsh then signed him in San Francisco and got to see how bad he was closeup. Signed: 1995 Started In: 1998 Released: 1999
    Moses Moreno, Colorado State: Stenstrom was so bad that rookie seventh-round pick Moses Moreno started a game in 1998. He injured his knee, ending his career for the Bears. Drafted: 1998 (7) Started in: 1998 Released: 1999
    Shane Matthews, Florida: Matthews was a third-stringer for the Bears from 1993-1995, then again in 1996, and was brought back for a third time in 1999. Following the release of Kramer, Matthews became the first starter for Gary Crowton's "razzle dazzle offense". Matthews played admirably from 1999-2001, but lacked a big-time arm. He struggled when he replaced Jim Miller following Miller's injury in the 2001 playoff game, and was not resigned. Signed: 1993, 1996, 1999 Started in: 1999-2001 Not resigned: 2002
    Cade McNown, UCLA: Petulant, arrogant, smarmy, you name a few adjectives to describe the quarterback predicted to be the next Jim McMahon. Declared that he didn't drink, smoke or have premarital sex, but he was indicted for misusing handicapped parking placards. Angered his teammates so much that they reportedly threatened mutiny if he were started over Matthews in the final game of 2000. Had brief stops in Miami and San Francisco but never threw another pass in the NFL following a final completion against Detroit in the 2000 finale. Did pocket close to $20 million on his rookie deal. Drafted: 1999 (1) Started in: 1999-2000 Traded: 2001
    Jim Miller, Michigan State: Miller was signed off the scrapheap in 1998 following Moreno's knee injury. He was a longshot to make the roster in 1999. He responded by throwing for huge numbers in Crowton's offense, then led the Bears to the playoffs in 2001. Almost as oft-injured as McMahon. Signed a five-year extension prior to the 2002 season, only completed one year on the deal. Signed: 1998 Started in: 1999-2002 Released: 2003
    Chris Chandler, Washington: See Dave Krieg. Again, wasn't supposed to have to play for Miller. Again, had to replace Miller in week seven. Chandler was as injury-prone as McMahon and Miller, and was knocked woozy in Champaign against Philadelphia. Had to be dragged like an invalid to the medical trailer behind the Memorial Stadium scoreboard. Turned in gritty performances in 2003 in relief of Kordell Stewart, but it was for naught. Signed: 2002 Started in: 2002-2003 Not resigned: 2004
    Henry Burris, Temple: Touted as the biggest surprise from the CFL since, and better than, Jeff Garcia. "Happy Hank" was his nickname. One pathetic start in Chicago is his legacy. Signed: 2002 Started in: 2002 Released: 2003
    Kordell Stewart, Colorado: See Henry Burris, but with a better NFL resume. The Bears signed Stewart to a two-year deal over an available Jake Delhomme due to his experience, albeit bad experience. Finally benched for good after throwing game-changing interceptions at Green Bay, ending Chicago's dim playoff hopes. Signed: 2003 Started in: 2003 Released: 2004
    Jonathan Quinn, Middle Tennessee State: Recommended by new Offensive Coordinator Terry Shea to help install his offense. Hoped to only fill mentor role. Was thrust into action when Rex Grossman blew up his knee in the season's third week. Absolutely abysmal: threw three picks and one touchdown with a 53.7 rating in 2004. Signed: 2004 Started in: 2004 Released: 2005
    Craig Krenzel, Ohio State: Picked in the fifth round in 2004, ended up starting due to the utter misery that was Quinn's play. Became the starter on October 31st and won three games in a row--not bad for a rookie--but was helped immensely by his defense and poor competition. Injured on Thanksgiving at Dallas and was supplanted by Chad Hutichinson. Drafted: 2004 (5) Started in: 2004 Released: 2005
    Chad Hutchinson, Stanford: Claimed off a surfboard following Rex Grossman's knee injury that ended his 2004 season. Defeated the Minnesota Vikings in his first start, looking like the answer to the Bears' quarterback problems of the past. Played very average in four straight losses to end the 2004 season. Looked to start in 2005 after Grossman's last injury, but was atrocious in the preseason. Cut. Signed: 2004 Started in: 2004 Released: 2005
    Kyle Orton, Purdue: Pressed into duty when Grossman injured his ankle, and Hutchinson stunk, in the 2005 preseason. Became only the second rookie quarterback since 1970 to win 10 starts, but like Krenzel he was helped greatly by a great defense. Deserves a lot of credit for steadying the ship in 2005 prior to Grossman's return. Orton has also been installed as the third starter of the 2007 season, and has played remarkably well as the fulltime starter in 2008. Drafted: 2005 (4) Started in: 2005, 2007-2008
    Rex Grossman, Florida: In 2006, Grossman became the first Chicago Bears quarterback since 1995, and only the third since 1981, to start all 16 games in a season. Alternately celebrated as a potential MVP and vilified as the team's worst problem, he led the 2006 Bears to the Super Bowl. Then generally stunk in that game. Entered the 2007 season with a goal of throwing 30 touchdowns and less than 10 interceptions, Grossman was benched after three games, then returned to start four more before suffering a season-ending knee injury. Final 2007 statistics: 4 touchdowns, 7 interceptions and a 67.1 QB rating. Drafted: 2003 (1) Started in: 2003-2008
    Brian Griese, Michigan: Signed: 2006 Started in: 2007 Griese relieved Grossman as the Bears' starting quarterback in week four at Detroit. Griese put up fairly stunning numbers for a Bears quarterback, even winning two close comeback games at Green Bay and Philadelphia. But generally he played hot and cold, finishing with a 3-3 record in games he started, 3-4 in games in which he played a bulk of the snaps. Signed: 2006 Started in: 2007

    I don't know what everyone is complaining about, Cutler is the best Bears QB since Sid Luckman hands down. As a Bears fan myself, I'm complaining about our receivers,(worst in the NFL IMO) and our aging defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reno cool View Post
    I've been unimpressed with Cutler for a while.
    We hit the quinella in Denver getting rid of both morons at once. I couldn't be happier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reno cool View Post
    I've been unimpressed with Cutler for a while.
    We hit the quinella in Denver getting rid of both morons at once. I couldn't be happier.
    Two Words... Kyle. Orton.
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    first it was the quarterback, now it's the receivers. bla bla bla
    Maybe you need a coach. Why don't you pricks hire Shanahan?

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    Compared to recent competition he will be there awhile and do well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reno cool View Post
    first it was the quarterback, now it's the receivers. bla bla bla
    Maybe you need a coach. Why don't you pricks hire Shanahan?
    Forgot to mention that, I'd take Shanahan over Lovie any day. Shanahan is from the Chicago land area also.As far as receivers, I don't see Hester ever turning into a go to guy, hopefully Earl Bennett or someone else will emerge to go along with Forte,Cutler, and Olson for the Bears to have a solid offense.
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    Durito, I'll take my chances. Everyone can't win all the time. As long as the team appears well coached, consistent, doesn't waste their timeouts, and does not refuse to kick a field goal in a tied game, I'll be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    He is a loser, always was

    Secondly he is not a cold weather QB especially because he throws a hard ball.
    wait a second since when did Denver get replaced by san diego??! without looking at year round weather averages i would say that denver is just about as cold as chicago!! that is the most retarded thing i have ever heard of in my life! chi_archie beat me too it! brett farve made his career on cold weather games??
    This thread is full of uneducated morons. cutler is a huge baby thats whey denver got rid of him but he is easily one of the most talented qb's in the nfl. if that line can give that man some time to throw with forte running like a madman the bears will be a very formidable team this year.

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    Denver as cold as Chicago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smarmy View Post
    About 16 weeks after Kyle Orton is kicked off the field in Denver.

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    Cutler is a spoiled little baby.... just like durito. But durito likes to be all over Cutler's rooster.

    Vikes most likely are in the playoffs. Will the Bears make it? If not, it will be another year that Cutler has not led a team to the playoffs. O/c, durito will still suck on Cutler's rooster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilfDriller View Post
    Cutler is a spoiled little baby.... just like durito. But durito likes to be all over Cutler's rooster.

    Vikes most likely are in the playoffs. Will the Bears make it? If not, it will be another year that Cutler has not led a team to the playoffs. O/c, durito will still suck on Cutler's rooster.
    Cutler was not the reason Denver did not make the playoffs, their terrible defense was. However, Cutler WILL be the reason Bears win NFC at 14/1.

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