[UntilTheNDofTimE]

This team isnt winning 45 games

[tto827]

Just deposited so that I could bet this at -135 at 5dimes

[Ghenghis Kahn]

don't get too excited, they are only 4 games back from the 8th spot.

wouldn't be a shocker if they did make the playoffs.

houston sucks.

portland sucks.

minny sucks.

dallas is the only team lakers need to worry about...

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

4 games back. Yea if every team above them lost 4 in a row. Lakers have to win 8 in a row to catch up if the teams above them stay at .500

Plus this thread is more of a joke to another thread

[Seto]

don't get too excited, they are only 4 games back from the 8th spot.

wouldn't be a shocker if they did make the playoffs.

houston sucks.

portland sucks.

minny sucks.

dallas is the only team lakers need to worry about...

3 spots for Dallas, Lakers, Utah, and Golden State.

[William Walters]

As a lifelong die hard Lakers fan......going back to the good ol' days at the Fabulous Forum with Dancing Berry leading the crowd......I'm about to (yes..."about to"....still holding on for a sign....any sign) throw in the towel on this season. Jerry, Jim and Mitch need to sit D'Antoni down and tell him........."our way or the highway pal.........change your system to fit our roster...........run the offense inside out...........find a way to play Howard & Gasol together......just as Bynum & Gasol played together........or.......pack your bags". Lakers can afford to pay Brown and D'Antoni if it comes down to it.

[upscope]

4 games back. Yea if every team above them lost 4 in a row. Lakers have to win 8 in a row to catch up if the teams above them stay at .500

Plus this thread is more of a joke to another thread

lol....they wouldn't have to win 8 in a row to catch UP....Just the 4

[tto827]

lol....they wouldn't have to win 8 in a row to catch UP....Just the 4

4 full games back, =8 lakers wins (.5 game each).

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

lol....they wouldn't have to win 8 in a row to catch UP....Just the 4

You must be stupid. A win is 0.5 games.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

4 games back. Yea if every team above them lost 4 in a row. Lakers have to win 8 in a row to catch up if the teams above them stay at .500

Plus this thread is more of a joke to another thread

yeah i know you're making fun of goat donk but houston, portland, and minny's been real bad also.

i gotta say, that loss vs miami at home was huge.

that game was the last leg of miami's road trip and it was their back to back.

if you can't beat a tired team like that at home, you can kiss your season good bye.

the lakers of old would have turned on their switch and devoured miami.

this new lakers only have an off switch and they are soft.

dwight howard is a fool's gold. he will never win a championship...

[The Giant]

The Lakers only have to go 28-13 to get to 45 wins.



They're done. Jim Buss is to blame.

[wantitall4moi]

They are going to get rid of Howard, will be interesting to see what team joins them and Brooklyn to get it done. Still wont matter. The system wont work. If they get anything for a guy who is an unrestricted free agent they should feel really lucky. I listen tot he radio and its like these people dont know shit, which they apparently dont. Acting like trading howard is a horrible idea, or that if they do they need to get the world for him. I guess these guys getting paid to be sports 'experts' dont realize guys with expiring contracts who are also unrestricted free agents arent worth shit. It isnt like a money dump trade to some team looking to just sign a guy to get rid of salary when his contract expires. But he is worth just about as much. But that is why Brooklyn works he actually wants to play there. He will end up there anyway I would imagine but if Lakers have a brain left in their head they do it while they can still get a little something for him, it cant be much, but then again who knows.

Also Gasol rumors. Gasol has baggage and suddenly a bad rep. He also apparently isnt as 'valuable' as Howard is even though Howard is next to useless because of the status of his contract. But Gasol is a lot more professional and has taken all the shit Lakers have shoved at him and hasnt said a negative thing about it. Howard is running around the locker room with a box score laughing in the face of everyone because he only got 5 shots.

Pau Gasol has two frigging rings and was the reason they won one of those championships. He was all but traded, now sitting the bench and coming off the bench and he just takes it. No comparison between the two guys.

But Lakers are going to be a lot worse before they get better. Money isnt going to save it especially if they over pay Kobe or anyone else they get.

You know what else gets lost in all this that is still a MAJOR issue, their bench is dog shot, they have zero depth and zero development. Other than Earl Clark who is now starting over Pau Gasol. I will give anyone a million dollars if they can find anything posted in any sports forum about Earl Clark as it pertains to his ability to play for a team let alone start. Made before Oct of 2012. I still couldnt pick Earl Clark out of a picture array. And this guy is starting for the Lakers and replacing one of the best front line players in the league? What a frigging joke.

I know I bash the lakers but come on look what theyre doing. Its no fun anymore because of the stuff they have done and continue to do. Its like shooting SBR posters in a barrel or something like that.

[Ratzz]

This team isnt winning 45 games

NO WAY this team wins 45.... *that's absurd..*

[wantitall4moi]

NO WAY this team wins 45.... *that's absurd..*

as is and no changes they will be lucky to win 37 games. I suspect some changes though that might give them a little bit of something but still not nearly enough to win 45. But might get them in a better position moving forward assuming they advance upon anything they gain now.

[Ratzz]

**I know I bash the lakers but come on look what theyre doing. Its no fun anymore because of the stuff they have done and continue to do. Its like shooting SBR posters in a barrel or something like that.

lol, i usually tend agree with you on all Laker related issues, but i would have to politely disagree on this one..*

putting the Laker-rabble in their proper place, and watching Kobe march the fans onto the field at Waterloo is a riot, and should be savored, with as much gusto and zeal as can be squeezed out of this fermented compost that is the present day Lakers.

[Ratzz]

in last night's game vs. the Bulls:

Kobe missed 15 shots on 7-22 shooting. (3x as many shots as Howard took!!)

He then faults Howard for not being open, and complains that he is being forced into 30-ft low percentage shots because nobody is open, and not helping him out.

Kobe is continuously playing 1-on-5 basketball, because those are the shots that make the highlight reel, not the all the turnovers or bricks that creates most of the time. (it is the job of ESPN to show the best shots, or people will move on and change the channel)

I can assure you in his memory, it is only those 'against all odds' shots that he selectively remembers.

[Ratzz]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--ko...101830224.html

On the issue of Howard's belief that the ball simply doesn't go through him enough on offense, Bryant rejected the premise.
"I've tried to go out of my way to get him the ball," Bryant told Y! Sports. "Sometimes I end up looking like an idiot, because I get up in the air, I've got a shot, but I try to find him. But he thinks I'm going to shoot, so his back is turned. I'm trying to think about getting him the ball a lot – take care of him as much as I possibly can. It takes me out of rhythm a little bit, but I'm fine with that. If that's going to help our team, I'm more than willing to do that."
When Howard did get the ball on Monday, he missed four of eight free throws. He let the Bulls strip him. He missed three of his five shots. His aggression seems to come and go, on offense and defense. Perhaps it's the back; perhaps it's something else.
"I've constantly tried to help him out, tried to talk to him," Bryant said. "Two o'clock in the morning, three o'clock in the morning. Texting him. Sharing reading materials. Anything to try and help him.

WHAT A JOKE. *

[BigDofBA]

You must be stupid. A win is 0.5 games.

If you're 4 games back, you don't need to win 8 in a row to catch up.

If the other teams lost 4 in a row the Lakers would only need to win 4 in a row to catch up.

Lol

[tto827]

If you're 4 games back, you don't need to win 8 in a row to catch up.

If the other teams lost 4 in a row the Lakers would only need to win 4 in a row to catch up.

Lol

He initially stated if the teams above them play at .500 the rest of the year.

[upscope]

You must be stupid. A win is 0.5 games.

Looks like you're the one that's stupid because you said verbatim "Yea if every team above them lost 4 in a row. Lakers have to win 8 in a row to catch up if the teams above them stay at .500"

If the Rockets lose 4 in a row like you said they would be 22-25 if the Lakers won those same 4 games that I suggested they would be 21-24.....If they won 8 in a row they would be 25-24.

[upscope]

He initially stated if the teams above them play at .500 the rest of the year.

He said if the teams ahead of them lose 4 in a row then play .500.
If the Rockets lose 4 in a row & then play .500 they will be 39-42 (w/ 1 to play). If Lakers win 4 in a row & then finish the same .500 they would be an identical 39-42.

Basically, it was a stupid comment.

[tto827]

don't get too excited, they are only 4 games back from the 8th spot.

wouldn't be a shocker if they did make the playoffs.

houston sucks.

portland sucks.

minny sucks.

dallas is the only team lakers need to worry about...

4 games back. Yea if every team above them lost 4 in a row. Lakers have to win 8 in a row to catch up if the teams above them stay at .500

Plus this thread is more of a joke to another thread

I think you misunderstood him. He was referring to Genghis Khans post with his first two sentences. The last is a separate statement.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Looks like you're the one that's stupid because you said verbatim

" 4 games back. Yea if every team above them lost 4 in a row.

Lakers have to win 8 in a row to catch up if the teams above them stay at .500"

In modern english periods seperate sentences. I stated lakers were 4 games( 4 wins) back if every other team lost 4 in a row. The second phrase says if every team goes .500 over next 8 games( 4-4) lakers would have to win 8 in a row to catch up.

[GIVEMETHEMONEY]

Kind of like if you think we let the dumbass in the White House come and take our guns especially down here in Texas, you are freaking absolutely whacked and brainless and clueless!!

[wilfra]

This team isnt winning 45 games

They aren't winning 35 games.

[You mad bro]

they might not win 20 games

[Killer_Demo]

Dwight is a cancer

[BigDofBA]

In modern english periods seperate sentences. I stated lakers were 4 games( 4 wins) back if every other team lost 4 in a row. The second phrase says if every team goes .500 over next 8 games( 4-4) lakers would have to win 8 in a row to catch up.

I see what you mean but why even say "if every team lost 4 games in a row"?

All you needed to say was if every team plays .500 ball over the next 8, the Lakers would need to win 8 in a row. It really wouldn't matter if these teams lost 4 in a row or not so that comment was irrelevant.

Anyway, I agree with you that LA probably won't make the playoffs. I said this about a month ago.

LA will have to suddenly start winning most of their games and play out of their mind to even get a 7 or 8 seed and then they'll get their asses kicked in the first round in 4 or 5 games by the Clippers, Thunder, or Spurs. THAT'S BEST CASE SCENARIO!

[stevenash]

Western Conference
	ACTUAL		PROJECTED				ODDS (%)
TEAM	W	L	W	L	BEST	WORST	PLAYOFFS	DIV	NO.1	FINALS	CHAMP	LOTTERY
Oklahoma City	32	9	61	21	72-10	43-39	100.0	97.5	34.8	28.7	21.4	0.0
Memphis	26	14	51	31	63-19	38-44	98.6	3.8	0.5	4.3	2.3	0.0
Golden State	25	15	48	34	64-18	33-49	92.8	3.5	0.0	1.5	0.6	0.0
Houston	22	21	42	40	56-26	28-54	62.4	0.0	0.0	0.8	0.2	0.3
LA Lakers	17	24	37	45	51-31	20-62	19.3	0.0	0.0	0.3	0.1	0.0*
Portland	20	21	35	47	51-31	23-59	11.7	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.2
Phoenix	13	28	28	54	43-39	16-66	0.1	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	11.7*

[wantitall4moi]

Western Conference
	ACTUAL		PROJECTED				ODDS (%)
TEAM	W	L	W	L	BEST	WORST	PLAYOFFS	DIV	NO.1	FINALS	CHAMP	LOTTERY
Oklahoma City	32	9	61	21	72-10	43-39	100.0	97.5	34.8	28.7	21.4	0.0
Memphis	26	14	51	31	63-19	38-44	98.6	3.8	0.5	4.3	2.3	0.0
Golden State	25	15	48	34	64-18	33-49	92.8	3.5	0.0	1.5	0.6	0.0
Houston	22	21	42	40	56-26	28-54	62.4	0.0	0.0	0.8	0.2	0.3
LA Lakers	17	24	37	45	51-31	20-62	19.3	0.0	0.0	0.3	0.1	0.0*
Portland	20	21	35	47	51-31	23-59	11.7	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.2
Phoenix	13	28	28	54	43-39	16-66	0.1	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	11.7*

So Portland who is 3 games ahead of the laker in both the win column and the loss column are half as likely as the lakers to make the play offs?

LOL yeah that is a credible site.

[stevenash]

So Portland who is 3 games ahead of the laker in both the win column and the loss column are half as likely as the lakers to make the play offs?

LOL yeah that is a credible site.

They base those percentages on a lot of things, like remaining schedule for instance.

[k13]

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NBA/Western.html

[wantitall4moi]

They base those percentages on a lot of things, like remaining schedule for instance.

yeah I went and looked at it. Lakers have a tougher schedule than most teams. I am also sure it doesnt take into consideration that Lakers wont win 12 games SU on the road this year. They might not win 10 games on the road. That in and of itself basically means Lakers have less than a 5% chance to go to the play offs. Even if they went undefeated at ho,e the rest of the way and teams backed up into them it is still nearly impossible for them to make the play offs.