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    Quote Originally Posted by Reload View Post
    But how long have they had the -105 model? That seemed more recent to me.
    the whole time they've accepted post up

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    For now, I'm sticking with Pinnacle. I'll wait and see if Bet Phoenix are still around with no slow pay or no pay complaints in another two or three years.

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    they are solid , their soccer is pretty impressive for a US facing book

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSLP View Post
    they are solid , their soccer is pretty impressive for a US facing book
    you are a durito secrets teller. Stop this. Leave this durito guy as stupid as he was

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    i can win at betphoenix dumbass

    your contention that pinnacle is "an easy to beat book" is what I took offense with. But, hey isn't bwin your favorite book anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    i can win at betphoenix dumbass

    your contention that pinnacle is "an easy to beat book" is what I took offense with. But, hey isn't bwin your favorite book anyway?
    good to hear you can make some money with them my mexican dumbass friend. You are great

    and for bwin... yeah just one of them my darling
    Last edited by moonbeam; 08-16-09 at 09:37 PM.

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    Durito is a dumbass?

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    Good thread. Lot's of good info and bs as well.

  9. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSLP View Post
    the video review said it i cant seem to find it though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    if you deposit with B.P and take advantage of their early bird football bonuses..... REMEMBER that the rollover on your money doesn't START until sept 10th....


    I didn't realize that back when I posted up in early august
    False. You can elect to count play beginning immediately, at a higher multiple.

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    Well, I am jumping on that Early Bird special and dropping the max for that bonus... $10K, so I hope they are around for a long time...

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    At first I was disappointed with their Customer service, but they got it together, and have come through with everything they promised, and have definitely stepped it up to an A- level with customer service. They have treated me well and done what they promised.

    I blew my deposit a couple of times so far, but this time I've gotten a bit lucky, and will request a withdrawal in about a week.

    So in about a week the money-shot is coming when I request a withdrawal. I'll keep you posted.
    Keep your fingers crossed .

    I believe everything should go smooth, based on the way they have been taking care of business, and a strong hands-on management style. They've had a manager help me out (at least they had the title), and all their promises have been honored without any problems. But like I said, the money-shot is coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeJohn View Post
    Well, I am jumping on that Early Bird special and dropping the max for that bonus... $10K, so I hope they are around for a long time...

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  14. #49
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    No question the B+ rating is earned. I said last year if the ewallet situation was ironed out they would be an A rated book easy. As far as I know, the Moneybookers part of that equation has been dealt with. I haven't requested a Neteller withdraw for a while, but that might still be an issue.

    They will get you paid, which is the bottomline, but an A rated book should be able to pay you back via Neteller if they accept funds that way.

    CS is A rated and you can't beat Richard. Patience of Job there.

    Lines are not vanilla. Great bonuses which evoke memories of a bygone era.

    Must have book fellas for football season. I dropped my work with a couple of A books to do business with these guys.

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    Kats would know.

    We see these guys a lot down in CR and have known them for many years. They understand the B+ for now. Everyone wants to be and truly believes they should be an A+.

    BP is one of the most interesting operation I have ever been in. I respect what their plans, their creativity and mostly their work ethic. I just want to see them stay on track and while they are at it lay down a little more track.

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    have to increase limits on horses....

    they are backing up to $20 on some tracks......... plus limits on WPS and exotics payouts, increase a little more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    SBR can get add revenue from over 75 books if they wanted, majority are declined because they do not meet the tough SBR standards.
    This is true, I am with Bet911 and I can tell you all that SBR is not only fair but hard on getting those upgrades, we have been trying to get up to a C and it has been imposible without meeting the tough guidelines that they require! We will get there! Eventually..................

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    Cferrat, what are you rated at the moment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cferrat View Post
    This is true, I am with Bet911 and I can tell you all that SBR is not only fair but hard on getting those upgrades, we have been trying to get up to a C and it has been imposible without meeting the tough guidelines that they require! We will get there! Eventually..................
    Learn to give better head, like Richard

  20. #55
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    Sometimes....but I can't agree with always...

    seems to me like they dropped the ball on Cascade which had an A rating mere months before they stiffed everyone.


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    If you have nothing positive to say about sbr, why are you trolling this forum every day? Noone has perfect ratings, but SBR always had the best available...

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    Requested $2995 this a.m.

    Received Moneybookers four hours later.

  22. #57
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    I upped for the first time with BetPhoenix in early July because their deposit options featured one that I really like to use. Made my first payout request today online via their Chat reps. I used the one free payout you get every 30 days and requested mine via check. Last payout I made was at Caribsports and that check got to me inside of a week, so we will see how they compare. So far, no complaints and I believe they have some of the widest options available wagering-wise for US players.

    I think I talked to a customer rep one other time about a grading discrepancy and it was handled very timely and professionally. If the payouts are done in a timely manner, this easily will be my favorite book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post
    I upped for the first time with BetPhoenix in early July because their deposit options featured one that I really like to use. Made my first payout request today online via their Chat reps. I used the one free payout you get every 30 days and requested mine via check. Last payout I made was at Caribsports and that check got to me inside of a week, so we will see how they compare. So far, no complaints and I believe they have some of the widest options available wagering-wise for US players.

    I think I talked to a customer rep one other time about a grading discrepancy and it was handled very timely and professionally. If the payouts are done in a timely manner, this easily will be my favorite book.
    The one free payout per month is what I'm looking for when I post up at a book. Those that charge $50 or more for withdrawl is not worth it for me as I am not a big bettor. Hearing a lot of good things about betphoenix so they look like a good option.

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    I couldn't get a free payout via Moneybookers, they charged me $20. They said the only payouts that were free were by check.

    I paid the $20, I didn't mind, thought that was fair.
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    the idea that pinnacle is difficult to beat is a joke. If i had access to their MLB openers I would DESTROY them. Alas I am but a poor fool trapped in the USA (or is it USSR these days?) Maybe next spring I'll figure out a way to use them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thagame24 View Post
    the idea that pinnacle is difficult to beat is a joke. If i had access to their MLB openers I would DESTROY them. Alas I am but a poor fool trapped in the USA (or is it USSR these days?) Maybe next spring I'll figure out a way to use them...
    if you are really smart enough to beat those, you long ago would've figured out how to play there
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    yeah proxy it bro .. many many ways to go around this

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    Why to be in doubt, then there are top A+ rated books. You must understand, that "this is the economy, stupid" that in the current stock market and financial crash like one in 1929 there will be many companies that will go bust in every industry and betting is not an exception. That's why security and rating must come first, not how nice bets they offer. I bet now with PartyGaming, I compared their bets and this are lowest, many books on the same bets offer 10-15% more, but you must ask yourself: Why they offer more?
    Here lies the answer, I prefer less for more security of my funds than more for being in doubt if bookmaker will pay me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown Gambler View Post
    Unless you have someone working there who can make moves(CHEAT WITH YOU)
    its not true.

    Not only is it not true,its as far from the truth as can be.

    That said i play there.
    OK unknown Gambler. I want to tell you a secret now.
    You can beat them every day. Its easy. (as long as you are not so stupid like durito)

  30. #65
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    I can beat pinnacle on Colombian soccer. Does that count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    I can beat pinnacle on Colombian soccer. Does that count?
    Yes this counts.

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    Id love to see a thread where the "pinny is easy to beat" guys post their bets, that would be entertaining i think

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    You bet darts there don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelda View Post
    Id love to see a thread where the "pinny is easy to beat" guys post their bets, that would be entertaining i think
    Only idiots do this

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    You bet darts there don't you?
    yes sometimes

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