[Petey Wheatstraw]

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-...no-games-5692/

5 Dimes has added a new casino with all the poular casino games and more. The graphics are good and it has lots of features. A nice thing is that you can play right from the interface or you can download. Always innovative, 5 Dimes.

[Scooter]

Thank you for the 5 Dimes advertisement, in the form of a reader's post.

[SportsMushroom]

online casinos are +EV

[Birre]

I was wondering, can you use the coupons from the new Grand casino if you sign up under the reduced juice rewards (standard on signup)?

[ProlinePlayer]

But is this one rigged?
You would have to a glutton for punishment to play at a 5 Dimes online casino.

PLP

[PD77]

Looking at the games the grand casino is Real Time Gaming (RTG) software. I believe the same as Bovada except Bovada owns their software. Interesting that 5dimes finally branched out and spent the cash to get a decent casino platform. When RTG was based out of the US their headquarters were a few miles from my house in Atlanta. Props to 5D, those are some very large bonuses , I hope there aren't any max cash outs. No doubt the bonuses are noncashable.

[brettels]

WOW

so does better graphics = better chance of winning?????????

[soul786]

I'm sure they invested in a casino so you could win more...

Seriously stay out of the casino unless you have some money to burn. Every casino is the same

[gauchojake]

Thanks for the heads up, shitstraw.

[ThaWoj]

Glad i disabled mine long ago

[pologq]

disabled mine too, i am a glutton for punishment. online casinos are a big rooster-tease.

[LordVodka]

Haven't tried it but I saw the rollover and it seems like a lot. If you get the 140% bonus you have to rollover 300x.


Speaking of casinos I went 4-50 today in Heritage blackjack and that was playing perfect strategy. Casinos are all a scam.

[Hankwins]

i have took 200 or less and brought it upto 2K plus at every casino around, not saying I cashed. aND on tilt and in greed mode los it all it seconds playing 100/hand. it really does go both ways, I thought i found a trend that when you jump that bet up you get smoked quicker due to software but i think it's basicaly how much more painful it is to lose a couple g's in 30 seconds. they need a slogan like your state lotteries "play responsibly"

[darkhat]

pass.

[face]

• Realistic Games/Spielo G2/Finsoft software — Added Jan. 9, 2013
  I first became aware of Realistic Games/Spielo G2/Finsoft when a player questioned the fairness of their Reel Deal game in a thread at CasinoMeister . After suspicious results at the Betfred casino , the player uploaded a log file of his play. The vast majority of the play was on an even money bet with what should have been a 50% chance of winning. The help file on the game claimed a 100% theoretical return.
  The player made this even money bet 19,196 times. He won 9,201 times and lost 9,995. The probability of luck this bad or worse is less than 1 in 200 million, or five standard deviations south of expectations. It should be noted another game called Hi Lo Gambler is also suspected of the same kind of biased even money game, but I have not personally analyzed log files of that one.
  Later in the thread, post #204 , Aaron with Betfred said that the game was developed by a online gaming software company called SPIELO G2 . They evidently had a fair and what I would call a cheating version of the game, which was set to a return of 96%. The help file for the fair 100% version was incorrectly given to Betfred.
  Where I live in Nevada, regulation 14.040 says that any electronic representation of a card game must be dealt fairly, where each card has an equal chance to be played. I applaud this regulation, and I would call doing otherwise cheating. Granted, the parties involved with this game operate outside Nevada, but I expect any card, dice, or keno game anywhere to play by the same odds as if dealt fairly by a human being.
  Between Realistic Games, Spielo G2, and Finsoft , I'm not quite sure who to point the finger of blame at. I think that Spielo G2 and Finsoft are different names for the same company. Who Realistic Games are, I'm not sure, but they seemed to be marketing the same games. Since this story broke, their web site went blank, in early January.
  According to Casino City online , 118 online casinos use their software. The SPIELO G2 web site indicates other entities using their products, including the Barona casino near San Diego.
  After doing an investigation, Betfred claims to have refunded all losses on the game, and removed all games provided by SPIELO G2 through Realistic Games. According to Hundred Percent Gambling , they have not, at least as of Jan. 16, 2013.
• SkillOnNet software — Added Dec. 15, 2012
  SkillOnNet software is added because of a double-or-nothing feature in their games that is not consistent with statistical norms. After allegations of a win rate well under 50% at CasinoMeister , an independent investigation was conducted byThe Pogg . In 303 double-or-nothing games the player won 108 times and lost 193 times. The probability of luck this bad, or worse, is 1 in 1,008,339.
  Casinos using SkillOnNet software include EU Casino, Casino Red Kings, Mega Casino, Win 7, Oxygen 9, Play Million, Simba Games, Queen Vegas, Vegas Winner, Luna, BG Room.
• Winaday — Added Dec. 13, 2012
  Much like Slotland (see below), the odds of hitting a jackpot is not naturally determined by the cards, even by their own admission.
  Please note that all games share the same mechanism which determines the jackpot win. Thus, with card games, the probability of hitting the jackpot combination is not natural but controlled by this shared random mechanism in the same way as slot machines' wins.
  
  This statement can be found in the FAQ, under "How are the odds created for your games?"It would seem that card games are not the only ones affected by this manipulation of the odds. A complaint was raised with The Pogg about their roulette game. In short, a player bet on a single number in single-zero roulette 1156 times and never won. The probability of this is 1 in 57 trillion.
  

[face]

^from wizard of odds website. none of those have to do with 5 dimes just for the record

[Petey Wheatstraw]

• Realistic Games/Spielo G2/Finsoft software — Added Jan. 9, 2013
  I first became aware of Realistic Games/Spielo G2/Finsoft when a player questioned the fairness of their Reel Deal game in a thread at CasinoMeister . After suspicious results at the Betfred casino , the player uploaded a log file of his play. The vast majority of the play was on an even money bet with what should have been a 50% chance of winning. The help file on the game claimed a 100% theoretical return.
  The player made this even money bet 19,196 times. He won 9,201 times and lost 9,995. The probability of luck this bad or worse is less than 1 in 200 million, or five standard deviations south of expectations. It should be noted another game called Hi Lo Gambler is also suspected of the same kind of biased even money game, but I have not personally analyzed log files of that one.
  Later in the thread, post #204 , Aaron with Betfred said that the game was developed by a online gaming software company called SPIELO G2 . They evidently had a fair and what I would call a cheating version of the game, which was set to a return of 96%. The help file for the fair 100% version was incorrectly given to Betfred.
  Where I live in Nevada, regulation 14.040 says that any electronic representation of a card game must be dealt fairly, where each card has an equal chance to be played. I applaud this regulation, and I would call doing otherwise cheating. Granted, the parties involved with this game operate outside Nevada, but I expect any card, dice, or keno game anywhere to play by the same odds as if dealt fairly by a human being.
  Between Realistic Games, Spielo G2, and Finsoft , I'm not quite sure who to point the finger of blame at. I think that Spielo G2 and Finsoft are different names for the same company. Who Realistic Games are, I'm not sure, but they seemed to be marketing the same games. Since this story broke, their web site went blank, in early January.
  According to Casino City online , 118 online casinos use their software. The SPIELO G2 web site indicates other entities using their products, including the Barona casino near San Diego.
  After doing an investigation, Betfred claims to have refunded all losses on the game, and removed all games provided by SPIELO G2 through Realistic Games. According to Hundred Percent Gambling , they have not, at least as of Jan. 16, 2013.
• SkillOnNet software — Added Dec. 15, 2012
  SkillOnNet software is added because of a double-or-nothing feature in their games that is not consistent with statistical norms. After allegations of a win rate well under 50% at CasinoMeister , an independent investigation was conducted byThe Pogg . In 303 double-or-nothing games the player won 108 times and lost 193 times. The probability of luck this bad, or worse, is 1 in 1,008,339.
  Casinos using SkillOnNet software include EU Casino, Casino Red Kings, Mega Casino, Win 7, Oxygen 9, Play Million, Simba Games, Queen Vegas, Vegas Winner, Luna, BG Room.
• Winaday — Added Dec. 13, 2012
  Much like Slotland (see below), the odds of hitting a jackpot is not naturally determined by the cards, even by their own admission.
  Please note that all games share the same mechanism which determines the jackpot win. Thus, with card games, the probability of hitting the jackpot combination is not natural but controlled by this shared random mechanism in the same way as slot machines' wins.
  
  This statement can be found in the FAQ, under "How are the odds created for your games?"It would seem that card games are not the only ones affected by this manipulation of the odds. A complaint was raised with The Pogg about their roulette game. In short, a player bet on a single number in single-zero roulette 1156 times and never won. The probability of this is 1 in 57 trillion.
  

Wow, a statisial tactician technician. Quite impressive, for real. Good job.

[ChicagoBlackhawk]

Tried 5 dimes poker room out. After realizing how high the rake is...called to inquire.
Was put on hold for 5 minutes with no return....hung up on twice, and hounded for account info the next time......all for a simple question

Now if it is such a simple question, answer me why they could not and would not answer this. The only answer they would repeat is it is a 3rd party software.....If you guys put your name on the software, dont you think you can answer a simple question about how you make money?

Stay away from these crooks. the customer service department is the biggest joke in the industry. bunch of children answering calls.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

Tried 5 dimes poker room out. After realizing how high the rake is...called to inquire.
Was put on hold for 5 minutes with no return....hung up on twice, and hounded for account info the next time......all for a simple question

Now if it is such a simple question, answer me why they could not and would not answer this. The only answer they would repeat is it is a 3rd party software.....If you guys put your name on the software, dont you think you can answer a simple question about how you make money?

Stay away from these crooks. the customer service department is the biggest joke in the industry. bunch of children answering calls.

Crooks? How in dah hell do you think they could stay in business for so long by being crooks?

As stated before, if you can find a better wagering venue on this planet, go for it.

Hint: You'll be searching until you draw your last breath.

There is none better.

[ChicagoBlackhawk]

rofl.
-kids answering the phone who have to go find someone with an answer for you and make you wait 20 min...
-1994 looking website (looks like it was created on a $500 budget)
-constant threads on here about them free rolling bets and cancelling when they aren't in the books favor
-poker software that they dont even own the rights to (I have seen better looking skins in 1998 in the hey day)
-the fact they pay money so SBR constantly deletes negative threads and or pays shills like you to write false threads.

If you want me to continue, please just ask

Yes, there are plenty of better books

[chino08]

Never used any books casino, just not my thing

but they have a free slots tournament promotion running every sunday, i entered it just for the hell of it.

Anybody ever did it before?

[Nova99]

-1994 looking website (looks like it was created on a $500 budget)

500 is too generous, looks like they converted a word document into a website... with that said their one advantage is they offer more selection than many other offshore books for us players, usually the odds are better as well.

[orisbumplut]

Even the LIVE Dealer casinos are as crooked as they come. It took losing 25 hands in row after I increased my bets to be cured of the Live Dealer disease.

[ProfaneReality]

Even the LIVE Dealer casinos are as crooked as they come. It took losing 25 hands in row after I increased my bets to be cured of the Live Dealer disease.

Liar.

[orisbumplut]

Go to any live dealer at any time and you never see full tables. You telling me that if the live dealers were honest, in this big world of ours, they wouldn't be 21 people playing at any time? Truth is they are crooked and if you find 3 people at any given table, that is a lot

[Birre]

Did they already stopped their coupons "promotion"?

[PD77]

Did they already stopped their coupons "promotion"?

Yes they did. I knew those coupons were WAY WAY off for RTG casinos. Plus the dumbfuk that put them out there only had the rollover on the deposit, not the D+B. I am sure a few people put a beating on them with those generous coupons with minimal rollover.

Live chat said the coupons were under maintenance? Translation : we fuked up and Tony blew a gasket. I sure hope they pay any and all players that made them pay for their mistake. Oh wait, they can claim an obvious error in the promotions and not pay shit.

[ESpirit58]

Hey Guys ! My first post here ! I want to give a Heads-Up ! about the - Online - Casinos ! @ WagerWeb.Com..... These guys @ this site are still CORRUPT !! they have had a reputation of being corrupt in the past and, it has not changed. They monitor all accounts closely and, if they find that you,re winning the majority of the time on any Casino-Game ! They will either remove the game completely or, they will change the betting - odds to larger wager amounts. I,m an account holder - with them and, this happened to me twice..... I hope SBR! makes a note of my complaint against this SportsBook ! and, drop their Rating to a ( D or, F )..... Thanks guys !!!!!!

[PD77]

You would have better luck with this complaint if you started a new thread and didn't tag it on a 5dimes casino thread. Your post has nothing to do with the topic. Welcome to SBR.

[andywend]

Crooks? How in dah hell do you think they could stay in business for so long by being crooks?

As stated before, if you can find a better wagering venue on this planet, go for it.

Hint: You'll be searching until you draw your last breath.

There is none better.

Petey 5Dimesstraw, you are an obvious shill for 5Dimes. The whole objective of gambling is to try and win money. If you are able to win money, then 5Dimes will SEVERELY LIMIT your betting limits rendering the book useless. They do this WITHOUT EXCEPTION to all long-term winning players. Therefore, 5Dimes is NOT the best book out there because its IMPOSSIBLE to win long-term because you can't win without getting your limits reduced.

[tatehill2000]

live play?

tater

[Fishhead]

Massive +EV play here if you have a clue, GL

[Russian Rocket]

if you have at least some clue in what you're doing, 5D's grand casino is +EV...primarily the American Roulette...ohh and they also pay you back the comp points (money generated by playing cash games, win or lose) that can be redeemed for straight $$$.

[easyliving]

if you have at least some clue in what you're doing, 5D's grand casino is +EV...primarily the American Roulette...ohh and they also pay you back the comp points (money generated by playing cash games, win or lose) that can be redeemed for straight $$$.

sadly I have no clue and have no clue how a roulette game is +ev. The only casino I play at is SBR, thats about it

[Russian Rocket]

Tony loves winners