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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse4tw View Post
    i thought people said they werent accepting deposits?
    they still do accept deposit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tblues2005 View Post
    Wow has this book gone downhill recently seriously. Wow! Where is the government at in that country where they are located at on this issue. Hey John what steps are you going to take now to help members here that has funds there?

    I am just glad I never signed on with them because I would be hurting right now.

    I hope you don't have any contests that these guys sponsored that are currently going right now or you may have some problems with that.
    SBR will not do anything to help people to get their fund back... they already said it that because of sharp account betislands had, it's going to be hard to find company who will be willing to bail them out.

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    It's a tough situation for SBR... it's a surprise to everyone. It just goes to show you that maybe our funds aren't safe anywhere? It's up to our own instinct and our own research when we fund these books. SBR John does a lot of wonderful things here for us. I'm sure he feels bad just like most of SBR employees. He'll do the best he can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    It's a tough situation for SBR... it's a surprise to everyone. It just goes to show you that maybe our funds aren't safe anywhere? It's up to our own instinct and our own research when we fund these books. SBR John does a lot of wonderful things here for us. I'm sure he feels bad just like most of SBR employees. He'll do the best he can.
    I agree John is a good guy. I seen him at the bash a few years ago. He will do his best. I am shocked that SBR will not go to bat and go the government where they are located at to find out what they can do. It can't hurt and it doesn't cost anything to ask.

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    What book will Jon go to next to scam more?

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    Someday, someone is going to beat the piss out of SBR management. I've only lost a pittance on the scams. Won't be me, but I won't be surprised when it happens. Hope they are hiding out the right way. GL fellas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tblues2005 View Post
    Wow has this book gone downhill recently seriously. Wow! Where is the government at in that country where they are located at on this issue. Hey John what steps are you going to take now to help members here that has funds there?

    I am just glad I never signed on with them because I would be hurting right now.

    I hope you don't have any contests that these guys sponsored that are currently going right now or you may have some problems with that.
    This is Africa

    look up that phrase and learn what it means. There aren't good guys. There aren't bad guys. There are just guys trying to make a buck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tblues2005 View Post
    I agree John is a good guy. I seen him at the bash a few years ago. He will do his best. I am shocked that SBR will not go to bat and go the government where they are located at to find out what they can do. It can't hurt and it doesn't cost anything to ask.
    He not going to do shit for you.

    Maybe if lucky you will get a nice stock tip

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    People complain about Tony being a prick and shit but would take 5Dimes any day of the week over some bubblegum book SBR sucked off. Or just live in Canada.

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    Free whores for BI players at the next bash!!

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    Rumor has it that some of the people there are starting there own book so be weary of cold calls soon. I am sure all are info is being given out as we speak
    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    What book will Jon go to next to scam more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    He not going to do shit for you.

    Maybe if lucky you will get a nice stock tip
    You might be right. They did go to bat on sportsbook.com and some others in the past. I wouldn't say that totally. I just think it is terrible that this happened right in the middle of the football season with bowl season coming up. That is the shocker to me.

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    Using locals is becoming a pretty attractive option again for a lot of players..

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    whats sbrs winner and losers report gonna look like tomorrow?

    and yesterdays biggest losers are all who listened to us and had money at bet islands

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    What book will Jon go to next to scam more?

    www.suckcokkforclients.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasInsider View Post
    Using locals is becoming a pretty attractive option again for a lot of players..
    Using a local is also high risk.

    Some guy made a thread about his local not answering calls/responding to texts last week. He also said he never met this guy in person before.

    Of course OP might have been making this up but you gotta be smart in who you choose as a local.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Actually the real truth is they were never rated higher than B. Its easy to blame the rating but if you were truly rating sensitive you would have never joined there. SBR will accept responsibility for its part but check the mirror before you get all holier than thou. They were never an A book.
    Go fuk yourself scumbag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeyanks23 View Post
    whats sbrs winner and losers report gonna look like tomorrow?

    and yesterdays biggest losers are all who listened to us and had money at bet islands
    That's a good one Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasInsider View Post
    Using locals is becoming a pretty attractive option again for a lot of players..
    I would be real careful of that. There is no where to lay off a large sum of money right now at all. There are locals/agents going bump in the night on a daily basis right now and/or no one with any liquidity at all.

    That is a huge risk.

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    John getting a raw deal here. I don't blame him 1 bit for this. BI was catering to the sbr crowd. So everybody from here was getting accomodated first. They were slow paying and stiffing guys from covers and dudes not on any forums first. Soon as it was confirmed that we were getting stiffed, they pulled the banner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttrace35 View Post
    John getting a raw deal here. I don't blame him 1 bit for this. BI was catering to the sbr crowd. So everybody from here was getting accomodated first. They were slow paying and stiffing guys from covers and dudes not on any forums first. Soon as it was confirmed that we were getting stiffed, they pulled the banner.
    How do you know how much sbr knew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasInsider View Post
    VI.....can you double check this link? Sounds like it could be an attractive out.

    Not working for me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasInsider View Post
    Using locals is becoming a pretty attractive option again for a lot of players..
    Been using a local since Moby was a minnow...Thurday is payday like clockwork.
    Never understood the offshore attraction and it's accompaning red tape.
    Offshore books are good for offshore owners, employees , money transfer companies,
    sports forums like SBR, their owners and employees. To each their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boeing power View Post
    How do you know how much sbr knew?
    I believe they were getting bullshitted too. They were quick to pull the banner when it was confirmed that we were'nt getting paid. Lou pm'd me earlier in the day and seemed really interested in if I got paid or not, so they can pill the banner.

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    I'm going to play devil's advocate here. If BetIslands plan is to steal our money how come you can still go to their website and make bets? How come you can still go into Live chat and chat with them? How do we know for sure that it's just not because they don't have a Processor at the moment? How do we know for sure that our money there is as good as gone?

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    A book we rated B fails of course SBR is going to take heat. For now we are going to focus on seeing if any book has an interest in a bailout.

    To prevent another BI I think its time to raise the minimum standard. Someone asked yesterday about GTBets and told them there are much better books. Several posters jumped me saying they are rated B. It certainly seems we have done a poor job explaining the difference is risk between a B book and a A book and an equally poor job suggesting a B book is safe or relatively safe. But for now lets work on a bailout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    A book we rated B fails of course SBR is going to take heat. For now we are going to focus on seeing if any book has an interest in a bailout.

    To prevent another BI I think its time to raise the minimum standard. Someone asked yesterday about GTBets and told them there are much better books. Several posters jumped me saying they are rated B. It certainly seems we have done a poor job explaining the difference is risk between a B book and a A book and an equally poor job suggesting a B book is safe or relatively safe. But for now lets work on a bailout.
    This is the correct answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    A book we rated B fails of course SBR is going to take heat. For now we are going to focus on seeing if any book has an interest in a bailout.


    To prevent another BI I think its time to raise the minimum standard. Someone asked yesterday about GTBets and told them there are much better books. Several posters jumped me saying they are rated B. It certainly seems we have done a poor job explaining the difference is risk between a B book and a A book and an equally poor job suggesting a B book is safe or relatively safe. But for now lets work on a bailout.
    I agree with you and see if there can be a buyout of this book is possible first. I am still surprised that you haven't gone to the government where they are at and inform of what has happened here. It doesn't hurt to ask on what can be done on that route also. I know the staff there can have all that information on what to do in this case hopefully soon.

    I know you guys will work to get this resolved. I would let members here know though that SBR is going to try to do something here to help. I would for sure put a video of an explanation of what's going on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tblues2005 View Post
    I agree with you and see if there can be a buyout of this book is possible first. I am still surprised that you haven't gone to the government where they are at and inform of what has happened here. It doesn't hurt to ask on what can be done on that route also. I know the staff there can have all that information on what to do in this case hopefully soon.

    I know you guys will work to get this resolved. I would let members here know though that SBR is going to try to do something here to help. I would for sure put a video of an explanation of what's going on here.
    We tried that with Cascade. I can tell you its a 100% a waste of time. Even if we could fund the years of litigation there would be nothing to collect. It's a shell game down here with shell companies and none of the money is here.

    We uncovered one interested party so have to keep digging. Bailouts are difficult these days because most of the players already have accounts at the potential acquiring book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    We tried that with Cascade. I can tell you its a 100% a waste of time. Even if we could fund the years of litigation there would be nothing to collect. It's a shell game down here with shell companies and none of the money is here.

    We uncovered one interested party so have to keep digging. Bailouts are difficult these days because most of the players already have accounts at the potential acquiring book.

    Most of us have accounts everywhere and are only using one or two of them. Many of us have naively not bet anywhere but a bubblegum shop for a long time because of the bonuses. Lesson now learned, which legit site do all of us go back to is the question here?

    Getting a player back in the door that hasn't used a site in a year is the same as getting a new player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    We tried that with Cascade. I can tell you its a 100% a waste of time. Even if we could fund the years of litigation there would be nothing to collect. It's a shell game down here with shell companies and none of the money is here.


    We uncovered one interested party so have to keep digging. Bailouts are difficult these days because most of the players already have accounts at the potential acquiring book.
    You have explained yourself were John. I didn't know you have done this already. I do think a video of explaining what happened here from SBR on this would be a very good way of dealing with this.

    As far as a buyout it wouldn't be that hard if the player had an account at the one buying it out. Just transfer the balance over to the existing account at the one that's buying it. Finding a buyer might be a pain and that is true.

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    This isn't the first offshore book to disappear with people's money. Certainly won't be the last.

    When you send your $ offshore - YOU are responsible for your decision. Don't be surprised when a marginal investment like this goes belly up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    A book we rated B fails of course SBR is going to take heat. For now we are going to focus on seeing if any book has an interest in a bailout.

    To prevent another BI I think its time to raise the minimum standard. Someone asked yesterday about GTBets and told them there are much better books. Several posters jumped me saying they are rated B. It certainly seems we have done a poor job explaining the difference is risk between a B book and a A book and an equally poor job suggesting a B book is safe or relatively safe. But for now lets work on a bailout.
    Now THAT is an answer. Good luck, John. I hope you guys can pull this off.

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    Unreal. I can't believe this shit. Unfukkinreal.

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