1. 12-17-12 08:58 AM #1
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    Is the Bears Collapse the biggest ever in the NFL?

    7-1 and might miss the playoffs. Somehow they out do their 7-3 collapse from last year.

    Has a team ever started 7-1 and missed the playoffs? Do they even control their destiny anymore?
    They should win their last 2 games but......
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  2. 12-17-12 09:00 AM #2
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    control own destiny--no they have become scoreboard watchers
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  3. 12-17-12 09:01 AM #3
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    NO. K13. nOT today. Too early for this.
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  4. 12-17-12 09:05 AM #4
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    96 redskins were 7-1 finished 9-7 no playoffs
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  5. 12-17-12 09:13 AM #5
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    Going by the playoff machine. They need one loss from Dallas or Giants or two losses by Seattle plus win out.
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  6. 12-17-12 09:20 AM #6
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    Ravens don't look any better.
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  7. 12-17-12 09:37 AM #7
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    k,

    how much do i owe you for the packers pats texans to not win division prop? i cant find the thread and know i posted some of the amount up b4 the season but not the whole thing.
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  8. 12-17-12 09:41 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    k,

    how much do i owe you for the packers pats texans to not win division prop? i cant find the thread and know i posted some of the amount up b4 the season but not the whole thing.
    250

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/nfl-bettin...ng-thread.html
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  9. 12-17-12 09:48 AM #9
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    I remember the eagles once started out 6-0 or 7-0 and then finished the season 7-9 (sometime in the early/mid 90s). Ill never forget it
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  10. 12-17-12 10:19 AM #10
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    80-1 futures look appetizing now.
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  11. 12-17-12 10:33 AM #11
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    Big collapses happen every year in the NFL.

    2011: Bills start out 5-2, finish 6-10.
    2010: Titans start out 5-2, finish 6-10.
    2009: Broncos start out 6-0, finish 8-8.
    2008: Bucs start out 9-3, finish 9-7.
    2007: Lions start out 6-2, finish 7-9.


    But in terms of sheer wins and losses, the 1987 Chargers take the cake:
    1987: Chargers start out 8-1, finish 8-7.
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  12. 12-17-12 10:36 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles27 View Post
    I remember the eagles once started out 6-0 or 7-0 and then finished the season 7-9 (sometime in the early/mid 90s). Ill never forget it
    You must be thinking about 1994, they started 7-2 and finished 7-9.
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  13. 12-17-12 10:46 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Big collapses happen every year in the NFL.

    2011: Bills start out 5-2, finish 6-10.
    2010: Titans start out 5-2, finish 6-10.
    2009: Broncos start out 6-0, finish 8-8.
    2008: Bucs start out 9-3, finish 9-7.
    2007: Lions start out 6-2, finish 7-9.


    But in terms of sheer wins and losses, the 1987 Chargers take the cake:
    1987: Chargers start out 8-1, finish 8-7.
    If that's the strike shortend season then that was two sets of different players and one bad coaching staff.
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  14. 12-17-12 10:47 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    You must be thinking about 1994, they started 7-2 and finished 7-9.
    Yup that is it! Epic collapse.
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  15. 12-17-12 11:46 AM #15
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    Lovie could be fired
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  16. 12-17-12 01:34 PM #16
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    jay cutler is not a winner all he does is complain
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  17. 12-17-12 03:00 PM #17
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    Lovie smith probably won't make to be bears coach next season.
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  18. 12-17-12 03:12 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    7-1 and might miss the playoffs. Somehow they out do their 7-3 collapse from last year.

    Has a team ever started 7-1 and missed the playoffs? Do they even control their destiny anymore?
    They should win their last 2 games but......
    I have a large ticket on Bears OVER 8.5 wins. think i'm the only non-bears fan that isn't laughing about this
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  19. 12-17-12 03:24 PM #19
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    Maybe, Maybe not. But they remind me of the Mets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huego View Post
    I have a large ticket on Bears OVER 8.5 wins. think i'm the only non-bears fan that isn't laughing about this
    If The Bears don't get over 8 wins... if the bears can't beat the Cardinals next week, there is no god.
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  21. 12-17-12 03:25 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Lovie smith probably won't make to be bears coach next season.
    This would be awesome. Never, ever was a fan of Lovie.

    Always wanted Rivera, but would happily take Reid or Wisenhunt.
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  22. 12-17-12 03:34 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Going by the playoff machine. They need one loss from Dallas or Giants or two losses by Seattle plus win out.
    Minnesota also factors in. First, Bears obviously need to win both. I'll just assume Seattle wins one and gets in over them. Second, they will need Minny to lose to either Hou or GB (likely). Third, they need either Giants OR Wash to lose just 1 game. Bears beat Dallas so they have that tiebreaker, BUT if Dallas and NYG both win out, then Dallas wins division and Bears lose conf record tiebreaker to NYG.
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  23. 12-17-12 03:56 PM #23
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    this off season will be a litmus test for how much power Phil Emery really has
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    Most likely he Bears will still squeak in. They do tend to beat the bad teams, and Arizona and Detroit qualify. All of their losses are to teams now 8-6 or better. Minnesota is not going to beat both Hou/GB. And then the NFC East will have to fall just right with two of those teams winning out (and Wash/Dall face each other).

    So it's actually not unlikely that the Bears still get in. I doubt Minnesota makes it with their schedule.
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  25. 12-17-12 04:03 PM #25
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    Squeak in and get run over in round 1. They win when they get defensive scores. They don't have more talent or out-scheme other playoff teams.
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  26. 12-17-12 04:03 PM #26
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    dont be a hater

    worry about your 49ers not choking in the playoffs again
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  27. 12-17-12 04:10 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZetaPsi808 View Post
    dont be a hater

    worry about your 49ers not choking in the playoffs again
    How's it choking when everyone thought they would lose to the Saints?
    Worry about the giants making the playoffs.
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  28. 12-17-12 04:54 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    How's it choking when everyone thought they would lose to the Saints?
    Worry about the giants making the playoffs.
    kyle williams fumble(s?) was an epic choke job

    but even without that fumble the 49ers were not winning that game pally
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  29. 12-17-12 06:54 PM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7secondsOrLess View Post
    jay cutler is not a winner all he does is complain
    Get Jay a better line and a TE. And some coaches who play football in TE 21st century.
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  30. 12-17-12 07:07 PM #30
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    Please fire Lovie. Cant stand how this guy is so happy with being mediocre year after year.

    Bring in Gruden and get an NFL LT so Jay has a chance to succeed.
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  31. 12-17-12 07:08 PM #31
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    The Bears should have kept Olsen...Bears very similar to Lions in that they have a rocket armed qb with only one guy to throw to at the moment. Arizona with Petersen ate that up, so don't know if the Bears will definitely win. Bears O line is worse too and Cards definitely got to Staphord.
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  32. 12-17-12 07:08 PM #32
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    not really, they aren't a special team or anything
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  33. 12-17-12 07:14 PM #33
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    Don't you guys remember when the Broncos were 8-6 under Jay Cutler and had to win only one game to win the AFC WEST?!

    Then went on to lose 2 games straight, and then lost to the Chargers 52-21 to allow the Chargers to win the AFC WEST.

    Both teams finished 8-8 with the Chargers having the tie-breaker, Broncos started 4-1 that season.
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  34. 12-17-12 07:22 PM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jago2008 View Post
    Don't you guys remember when the Broncos were 8-6 under Jay Cutler and had to win only one game to win the AFC WEST?!

    Then went on to lose 2 games straight, and then lost to the Chargers 52-21 to allow the Chargers to win the AFC WEST.

    Both teams finished 8-8 with the Chargers having the tie-breaker, Broncos started 4-1 that season.

    This is what I wanted to do after reading your post, no offense

    Two game collapse? In the discussion of biggest ever? And sounded like you were talking about a 17 game season there.

    I am going to give you two points in case that was rude, but you gave me a headache.
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  35. 12-17-12 08:11 PM #35
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    Martz wanted Olsen out of Chicago
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