[PhillyFlyers]

Fact.

[Bostongambler]

What about Rondo?

[k13]

Irving, Jennings, Williams,

[PhillyFlyers]

What about Rondo?

Rondo is good but he has better talent around him than what Holiday has to work with.

You put Garnett on the Sixers and Holiday would average 15+ assists per game.

That's why it's a shame that Bynum is so fukked up. Holiday-Bynum was going to be something to see but now we might not get the chance.

Heard rumors this weekend that Sixers management have already decided not to sign Bynum when his contract is up this year if he misses the season.

That would really hurt him as the Sixers are the team that can give him the most money under current NBA rules.

Bynum fukked up by going bowling.

[TheeArchBishop]

This is a College basketball forum

[Vegas39]

[Ralphie1412]

Bynum is not that good. Period. Its laughable that people think this guy is going to have a monster career.

[wtt0315]

Teague is better

[milwaukee mike]

holiday is up to 3rd in the league for rankings

2nd in the eastern conference behind rondo - FACT

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/playerr...gularseason/PG

[woodsy5822]

Rondo is better and its not even close...

[rfr3sh]

well he is a good scoring pg yes, but if that is your barometer then in the east irving and ellis avg more than him lowry and kemba are close too

also his steals and rebounds are middle of the pack

at the end of the day ill take rondo averaging more boards, assists and steals per game over a scoring pg

[ZetaPsi808]

deron williams is better

[hawley]

Still turns the ball over too much

[Goat Milk]

um....

1. D Will
2. Rondo
3. Rose




4. Irving



5. Holiday






Everyone else. No one close to the top 3.

[PhillyFlyers]

holiday is up to 3rd in the league for rankings

2nd in the eastern conference behind rondo - FACT

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/playerr...gularseason/PG

According to cbssports? The fukk do they know?

Jrue Holiday is ona mediocre team he is forced to carry every night. When the fukk has Rondo ever had to carry the Celtics by himself?

Also, Rondo does not have the offensive game Jrue does. Jrue can beat you many different ways. Step back and hit the 3, drive by you, or post up.

Holiday has much more complete game than Rondo. Rondo is limited, Jrue is not.

[Goat Milk]

According to cbssports? The fukk do they know?

Jrue Holiday is ona mediocre team he is forced to carry every night. When the fukk has Rondo ever had to carry the Celtics by himself?

Also, Rondo does not have the offensive game Jrue does. Jrue can beat you many different ways. Step back and hit the 3, drive by you, or post up.

Holiday has much more complete game than Rondo. Rondo is limited, Jrue is not.

Rondo is a better passer, a better dribbler, has better vision, more crafty with the ball, more creative, a better playmaker, more deceptive, tougher to guard, better in the pick and roll, better in transition. Holiday is a better scorer and that's all.

[t-wizzle]

Rondo is a better passer, a better dribbler, has better vision, more crafty with the ball, more creative, a better playmaker, more deceptive, tougher to guard, better in the pick and roll, better in transition. Holiday is a better scorer and that's all.

You're arguing with an idiot. Don't waste your time.

[PhillyFlyers]

Rondo is a better passer, a better dribbler, has better vision, more crafty with the ball, more creative, a better playmaker, more deceptive, tougher to guard, better in the pick and roll, better in transition. Holiday is a better scorer and that's all.

Rondo is a better passer? Look who he can pass to. Holiday has to pass to dude's like LaVoy Allen, Nick Young, and Spencer Hawes.

Watch when the Sixers play the Celtics, Holiday has a much more rounded game than Rondo. Almost none of what you said is true. You say Holiday is a better scorer right after you say that Rondo is tougher to guard. How can that be?

I will give you that he is more deceptive than Jrue, but Jrue on the break is lethal, Rondo is not better in transition.

[rfr3sh]

but jrue isn't even leading in ppg out of the east pgs only which is clearly solely what you are basing this off of

[PhillyFlyers]

but jrue isn't even leading in ppg out of the east pgs only which is clearly solely what you are basing this off of

No I'm not.

What Jrue does for the Sixers to be able to win>>>>what Rondo does for the Celtics to be able to win.

[ngates815]

Rondo, D will, D rose.

Put Jrue on any of those guys spots, he would not make the team better.

He is good though.

[rfr3sh]

No I'm not.

What Jrue does for the Sixers to be able to win>>>>what Rondo does for the Celtics to be able to win.

are you serious?
rondo obviously knows he is not a really good shooter, so he doesn't shoot a lot in his games hence he only has 145 fg attempts so far this year

so what rondo does for the celtics to win is dish the ball and create chances for his team to win
what jrue does is shoot he has attempted 222 fgs 2nd in the league behind westbrook

if rondo shot as much as jrue did the celtics would lose all the time, but he doesn't because that's not his role for the celtics to win

[PhillyFlyers]

You guys are fukkin nuts.

I'll put it another way so maybe it'll become clearer for you.

If someone proposed a serious trade offer of Rondo straight up for Holiday, Celtics do it in a heartbeat and Sixers say fukk out.

[Goat Milk]

Rondo is a better passer? Look who he can pass to. Holiday has to pass to dude's like LaVoy Allen, Nick Young, and Spencer Hawes.

Watch when the Sixers play the Celtics, Holiday has a much more rounded game than Rondo. Almost none of what you said is true. You say Holiday is a better scorer right after you say that Rondo is tougher to guard. How can that be?

I will give you that he is more deceptive than Jrue, but Jrue on the break is lethal, Rondo is not better in transition.

1. Rondo might be one of the best passers in NBA history. He constantly makes no look passes, cross court passes, whatever you want you name it. Do you understand that people guard Rondo for the pass and they still can't stop him? They dare him to shoot the ball, the entire defensive gameplan is to stop Rondo from getting in the lane and setting up teammates and defenses still can't do it.

2. Rondo is the craftiest dribbler in the entire nba. You can't steal the ball from him.

3. Rondo has the best vision in the nba.

4. Don't argue with me about things like this. I've been playing the game for 20 years and watching it for even longer.

[rfr3sh]

Rondo's PER/APER

21.06

22.71

JRUE

18.53

20.63

[Cuse0323]

Why argue with a Philly fan saying this? No point. It's like me saying Melo is better than Lebron, as much as I want it to be true, it ain't.

[ngates815]

You guys are fukkin nuts.

I'll put it another way so maybe it'll become clearer for you.

If someone proposed a serious trade offer of Rondo straight up for Holiday, Celtics do it in a heartbeat and Sixers say fukk out.

Let me guess, Eagles won the superbowl last year as well?

[d2bets]

Holliday is not that good. Having a good season so far, but turns it over way too much.

[PhillyFlyers]

1. Rondo might be one of the best passers in NBA history. He constantly makes no look passes, cross court passes, whatever you want you name it. Do you understand that people guard Rondo for the pass and they still can't stop him? They dare him to shoot the ball, the entire defensive gameplan is to stop Rondo from getting in the lane and setting up teammates and defenses still can't do it.

2. Rondo is the craftiest dribbler in the entire nba. You can't steal the ball from him.

3. Rondo has the best vision in the nba.

4. Don't argue with me about things like this. I've been playing the game for 20 years and watching it for even longer.

1) He is not one of the best passers in history and this post proves beyond doubt you have no real understanding of the history of the game. He benefits tremendously from playing with 2 future hall of famers in Pierce and Garnett, 3 if you count the days he played with Ray Allen.

He does nothing special for the job he is asked to do, which is to get the ball to your best players. Any point guard in the league can do what he does if all they did was concentrate on passing and not worry about being an offensive threat.

2) Again shows you don't know what you're saying. I've seen Holiday steal the ball from him more than once.

3) The best vision in the NBA......but he can't make a jumper or shoot a free throw.

4) That doesn't means shit.

[t-wizzle]

1. Rondo might be one of the best passers in NBA history. He constantly makes no look passes, cross court passes, whatever you want you name it. Do you understand that people guard Rondo for the pass and they still can't stop him? They dare him to shoot the ball, the entire defensive gameplan is to stop Rondo from getting in the lane and setting up teammates and defenses still can't do it.

2. Rondo is the craftiest dribbler in the entire nba. You can't steal the ball from him.

3. Rondo has the best vision in the nba.

4. Don't argue with me about things like this. I've been playing the game for 20 years and watching it for even longer.

It's nice to see you finally came around on Rondo.

[Goat Milk]

1) He is not one of the best passers in history and this post proves beyond doubt you have no real understanding of the history of the game. He benefits tremendously from playing with 2 future hall of famers in Pierce and Garnett, 3 if you count the days he played with Ray Allen.

He does nothing special for the job he is asked to do, which is to get the ball to your best players. Any point guard in the league can do what he does if all they did was concentrate on passing and not worry about being an offensive threat.

2) Again shows you don't know what you're saying. I've seen Holiday steal the ball from him more than once.

3) The best vision in the NBA......but he can't make a jumper or shoot a free throw.

4) That doesn't means shit.

1. Yes he is. It's not debatable.

2. Rondo is the best player (currently) on Boston. Not all-time.

3. Setting up teammates is called playing OFFENSE. Passing is part of the OFFENSE.

4. Drew Holiday will never make the hall of fame.

5. Rondo is guaranteed to make the hall of fame.

6. End of discussion.

[agharah1]

Rondo is good but he has better talent around him than what Holiday has to work with.

You put Garnett on the Sixers and Holiday would average 15+ assists per game.

That's why it's a shame that Bynum is so fukked up. Holiday-Bynum was going to be something to see but now we might not get the chance.

Heard rumors this weekend that Sixers management have already decided not to sign Bynum when his contract is up this year if he misses the season.

That would really hurt him as the Sixers are the team that can give him the most money under current NBA rules.

Bynum fukked up by going bowling.

I can see this being true. Bynum has been dogging his rehab ala Lamar Odom last year.

[ZetaPsi808]

who cares?

the sixers will never win anything

plus the eagles suck and will never win the division

[Br0nxer]

76ers fan here

This is funny

[You mad bro]

DERON WILLIAMS nikkas

What a stupid thread by a fckn moron phili fan