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    If your betting Dogs ATS, question about the ML?

    starting to play mainly dogs against the spread.

    for people that play mainly dogs.

    do you always bet the mL for the dog as well?

    or just in certain cases? vary the amount on the ml dog, depending on the spread?

    for example
    I am trying something with NBA dogs..

    ATS: bet 100 dollars

    if the ATS: is 1-4.5 ML dog risk 50
    if the ATS: is 5 to 9: ML dog risk 25
    if the ATS is double digits: risk 10

    any suggestions?




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    Bet hf its a home dog.
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    varies

    sometimes I play just the ML

    Sometimes I fukkin spray the ML and the spread equally

    Or sometimes I just play the spread

    All depends on the game and the feel

    No set formula
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    Laker Boy,

    if its a home dog nba but the spread is double digits are you still betting half ?



    goood information Bronxer... Its kind of what i figured.. all will depend on the game and whose playing out etc.


    Thanks

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    Bears, I'll just play dogs in MMA sometimes.

    I'll select the best 3 +200 dogs on the card and hope one hit for a profit.

    Sometimes 2/3 will cash making it a very nice night.

    I do the same with college hoops. College hoops better to me than pigskin. Bigten home dogs do well in hoops. Very defensive minded conference.

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    sometimes I only bet the ML if I feel like it is a high variance game or if I'm just chucking a dart. Like Washington St. today that is a hard team to trust did not even look like they cover +14 then they messed around and won outright
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    Not going to lie, cashing a +400 dog or better has one hell of a rush with it.

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    So much shit talk on here about you should bet the moneyline on a dog and the spread on the favourite and blah blah blah. I am probably doing it wrong with basketball (given the unique situation that comes up with fouling to extend the game) but I tend to have a value in mind for both the spread and moneyline when looking at a game. Then I compare which one I am getting better value on.

    In theory the moneyline market and the point spread should line up at exactly the same value - they don't at a lot books. I have seen situations where the spread has moved a half point and the moneyline has remained unchanged. In that type of situation chances are you are going to get more value by betting the moneyline in the long term. Of course you are also going to win that moneyline bet less often than you would the spread.

    I tend not to bet both the moneyline and spread - but if I did the wager would be smaller due to the fact that they are definitely correlated. So yeah I believe the proper way to go about it is to value both the moneyline and the point spread and then take whichever you are getting better value on.

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    I like taking Dogs straight up in football way more than basketball for whatever reason.......It feels like the points come in handy alot more in basketball than in football

    But it really depends on each unique situation....In football, if I like a small-medium dog against an explosive offense I'll almost always just ride with the +ML instead of taking the points that have a good chance to not even matter if the dog loses straight up anyway

    For example, I took the Jets ML for a small bet last night instead of the +7 because I thought that if the Jets lose, there's a good chance they lose by double digits anyway....Therefore, I found better value in the +265 ML

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    I like taking Dogs straight up in football way more than basketball for whatever reason.......It feels like the points come in handy alot more in basketball than in football

    But it really depends on each unique situation....In football, if I like a small-medium dog against an explosive offense I'll almost always just ride with the +ML instead of taking the points that have a good chance to not even matter if the dog loses straight up anyway

    For example, I took the Jets ML for a small bet last night instead of the +7 because I thought that if the Jets lose, there's a good chance they lose by double digits anyway....Therefore, I found better value in the +265 ML

    agreed , feel the same way with this..

    wonder if cause in hoops if you have a dog who is plus 8, its basically a 3 possession game,

    where college thats a 1 score game..

    probably the wrong way of looking at it though but might be a mind game type thing

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    i guess deciding to take the ml would depend on the sport and situation is what it comes down to..


    anyone know where i could find how

    home nba dogs do when fading the public road favorite?

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    Home dogs are rarely double digit dogs in nba. If its a +3 line take the home dog.

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    +1 to +3 ATS underdogs is when I usually bet the underdog ML.

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    Example purposes, NBA anything less than a 7 point spread: $100 on spread $40 on ML. Only do ML on football when it's a FG or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post
    varies

    sometimes I play just the ML

    Sometimes I fukkin spray the ML and the spread equally

    Or sometimes I just play the spread

    All depends on the game and the feel

    No set formula

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    Would it be to risky to take a Half/full time double on a home dog in the nba.

    Newbie Question: Im guessing ther term "Home dog" means the team that is playing at home, is expected to lose, big time?

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