Understand. Like I said this play probably wasn't thought about when making that rule. It might be changed but regardless there's a loophole for a lot of rules.Originally Posted by onlooker
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11-22-12 02:19 PM #71
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11-22-12 02:19 PM #72
I don't understand what the point is in penalizing the team at all for doing that. Where is the harm in throwing the flag in that situation?
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11-22-12 02:21 PM #73
Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe
Thats how I see it. If anything let the challenge happen even if it would have and charge them a timeout if theyre wrong
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11-22-12 02:21 PM #74
The "Bogus" TD highlight has been taken down on NFL.com
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11-22-12 02:22 PM #75
I guess the 5 seconds it takes for someone to go pick up the flag is delaying the game already delayed by reviewing every play except ones that are important. The NFL is becoming a pussy league run by morons. Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe
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11-22-12 02:23 PM #76
this rule isn't with unreviewable plays Originally Posted by InTheDrink
it only comes up when something that is automatically reviewed by the booth (a score or turnover) is challenged by the coach.
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11-22-12 03:01 PM #77
OT enjoy
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11-22-12 03:11 PM #78
Nobody has mentioned the head coaches race...if it was a black coach his race would of been mention a numerous amount of times....
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11-22-12 03:56 PM #79
lions are a fukkin joke
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11-22-12 03:58 PM #80
Covered the +3.5 but shoulda cashed ml also
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11-22-12 04:01 PM #81
Originally Posted by paco
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11-22-12 04:08 PM #82
I would like to congratulate Justin Forsett and Jim Schwartz on the longest run from scrimmage in Texan history.
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11-22-12 05:44 PM #83
Maybe Schwartz had Forsett on his fantasy team
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11-22-12 05:46 PM #84
One of the leagues worst, along with the Cowboys and jags. Originally Posted by ZetaPsi808
lions are a fukkin joke
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11-22-12 05:57 PM #85
It's really a dumb rule. Yes, he should know the rule but, I feel like just because he throws the flag shouldn't make the play unreviewable, the Lions should lose a timeout or something. That was obviously the game changing play which gave Houston the win but, come on with that rule. Honestly really really stupid and would be shocked if that rule is still in the NFL next year or at least modified to where the play can still be reviewed.
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11-22-12 05:59 PM #86
Understandable, but for now it is a rule. Coaches have to know that. Period. Originally Posted by Ambition
Not that it really matters, as Lions are fighting with Cowboys and Jags for overall #1 pick.
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11-22-12 06:14 PM #87
whats the point of even having red flags to challenge plays anymore. almost every fukking play is looked at now. the two challenges a game made it more interesting. the NFL will rule and police their game to death just like Nascar has done.
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11-22-12 06:20 PM #88
But, this is the first year of the rule. All the coaches are so used to throwing the flag in that situation and if they do you give them the worst consequence ever!? Making the play non-reviewable. To me it's unfair and something so harmless of an act to throw the flag that they shouldn't be given such a harsh penalty with a 15 yard penalty and the play can't be reviewed. IMO, the punishment doesn't match the crime. Originally Posted by opie1988
Understandable, but for now it is a rule. Coaches have to know that. Period.
Not that it really matters, as Lions are fighting with Cowboys and Jags for overall #1 pick.
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11-22-12 06:21 PM #89
Just sick of refs being so critical in deciding who wins the games. All these camera angles, challenge flags, booth officials, and it's still numbskulls blowing or not blowing their whistle and then nothing can be done about it because it's in the rules
They need a master official that can call in and override bullshit to preserve the integrity of the game
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11-22-12 06:23 PM #90
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11-22-12 06:24 PM #91
I'm sure many didn't know the review would be voided, but I'm sure they wrote it down on their play cards. Originally Posted by opie1988
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11-22-12 06:41 PM #92
What would happen if on that play HOU threw the challenge flag? Would they not review the play for DET because a challenge flag was thrown? Would be fukking awesome if someone did it.
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11-22-12 07:21 PM #93
Originally Posted by keyboarding
this is the question I'd like to see answered
from all the "its a rule in black and white, shwartz should know it"
a savy belichek coach could do something like that, and if there are not actual rules written to prevent a team from making a scoring play unreviewable by throwing a flag even if it is in their favor, the refs would have to make up a ruling on the fly.
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11-22-12 07:25 PM #94
If that penalty was called on the scoring team, the 15 yards would be penalized from the last spot of the ball, prior to scoring. Therefore negating the touchdown. Originally Posted by keyboarding
So I don't think that would be all that smart of a move.....SBR
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11-22-12 07:33 PM #95
Bi-Arch.....this is the NFL, not one of your GayLive peace music festivals. While this rule may need to be reviewed in the offseason, as of now its in the rule book. Originally Posted by Chi_archie
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11-22-12 07:33 PM #96
The announcers addressed this. They said you can't benefit from the replay if you threw the challenge flag. So if Houston would've thrown it, it would've been reviewed and overturned....because the person who threw the flag would not be benefitting from the challenge. Originally Posted by keyboarding
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11-22-12 07:39 PM #97
yes bad call, but lions couldnt stop houston, houston came back, converted a 4th down, went 97 yards and deserve the win.
Houston still could of scored that drive. Sue should of had a couple penalties himself
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11-22-12 08:34 PM #98
they also could have been stopped on that drive it would have been 3 down and 3. Originally Posted by ttwarrior1
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11-22-12 11:08 PM #99
Are you sure with this one? The action triggering penalty came after the play completed, so the 15 yards penalty should be enforced in the next play, right? Originally Posted by opie1988
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11-22-12 11:22 PM #100
Yup! Originally Posted by OldHickory
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11-22-12 11:47 PM #101
Kitties season is toast, if the Vikes can scrap out a win this weekend the NFC North will get real interesting
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11-23-12 01:08 AM #102
This is what I was thinking. I don't believe a flag can be applied retroactively. Originally Posted by wrongturn
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11-23-12 01:13 AM #103
This same call just happened last week in the Atlanta game. If a coach doesn't know the rule after the same damn thing happened four days ago, and after it was all over ESPN, and all over the NFL Network, then that's too penetrating bad.
Even Schwartz said after the game he knew the rule.
Stupid is as stupid does.
10-1!
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11-23-12 01:15 AM #104
Completely defeats the purpose of having video reviews
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11-23-12 02:04 AM #105
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