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  • slayer14
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    • 08-12-13
    • 22010

    #1
    Match Fixing Arrests
    Where does he go from here guys
  • semibluff
    SBR MVP
    • 04-12-16
    • 1515

    #2
    As a West Ham fan this is obviously terrible news. He didn't have a great season last year but there was enough to interest Man City as to his transfer availability. West Ham have a small squad and the central midfield position has already been weakened by the transfer of Declan Rice.

    I don't expect a quick resolution to this case. Neither team, player, or FA are making statements. The last big soccer-betting case was Ivan Toney who is now serving an 8-month ban.
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    • cashin81
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      • 09-10-14
      • 12946

      #3
      The investigation is believed to centre around Paqueta getting booked in games, with the bets being placed in Brazil, and the 25-year-old will now miss World Cup qualifiers against Peru and Bolivia in September.


      Worse than just betting random games.... betting himself to get booked and placed in brazil.
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      • slayer14
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        • 08-12-13
        • 22010

        #4
        Guy gonna face a long ban for sure I can't see him getting away with this
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        • cashin81
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          • 09-10-14
          • 12946

          #5
          Paquetta booked again, lol how did we miss this
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          • cashin81
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            • 09-10-14
            • 12946

            #6
            West Ham midfielder Lucas Paqueta is the subject of an FA enquiry into suspicious betting activities, which relate to bets placed on the midfielder to receive a yellow card in various Premier League matches.
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            • 19th Hole
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              • 03-22-09
              • 18952

              #7
              Good For Him.
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              • Allure
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                • 08-18-10
                • 7606

                #8
                Was about to move to Man City lol. Good job.
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                • cashin81
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                  • 09-10-14
                  • 12946

                  #9
                  Brazil in mourning. No card for Paquetta today.
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                  • Optional
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                    • 06-10-10
                    • 61539

                    #10
                    Match Fixing Arrests

                    Police raided homes and arrested four players from Macarthur Bulls of the Australian A-League soccer today.

                    Team captain Ulises Davila (first Mexican player signed by Chelsea in 2011) is accused of paying three other players $10,000 each for making sure they received yellow cards on behalf of a Sth American crime syndicate figure.


                    Four suspect games identified so far were between November 2023 and just 2 weeks ago on May 4th 2024.


                    Story: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-...ards/103860160
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                    • Optional
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                      • 06-10-10
                      • 61539

                      #11
                      <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Davila’s yellow cards against Victory (43rd minute) and Sydney (31st minute), hiding in plain sight �� <a href="https://t.co/Yh8tJtigut">pic.twitter.com/Yh8tJtigut</a></p>&mdash; Neil Sherwin (@neilsherwin) <a href="https://twitter.com/neilsherwin/status/1791277943618146399?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >May 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                      • getaloadoffatso
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                        • 03-14-23
                        • 608

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        Police raided homes and arrested four players from Macarthur Bulls of the Australian A-League soccer today.

                        Team captain Ulises Davila (first Mexican player signed by Chelsea in 2011) is accused of paying three other players $10,000 each for making sure they received yellow cards on behalf of a Sth American crime syndicate figure.


                        Four suspect games identified so far were between November 2023 and just 2 weeks ago on May 4th 2024.


                        Story: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-...ards/103860160
                        I know absolutely nothing about soccer, but that seems like a small payout to fix a game

                        Aren't those guys paid well????
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                        • Optional
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                          • 06-10-10
                          • 61539

                          #13
                          Originally posted by getaloadoffatso

                          I know absolutely nothing about soccer, but that seems like a small payout to fix a game

                          Aren't those guys paid well????
                          I guess not. About 400k average google says.

                          Young, dumb players prob think it was impossible to get caught. No idea about how betting is monitored.

                          Davila is a weird one though. He prob earns near top of league salary.

                          Must have been making a lot from the bets.
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                          • super mario 48
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                            • 10-01-20
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                            #14
                            oh wow...
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                            • getaloadoffatso
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                              • 03-14-23
                              • 608

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Optional
                              I guess not. About 400k average google says.

                              Young, dumb players prob think it was impossible to get caught. No idea about how betting is monitored.

                              Davila is a weird one though. He prob earns near top of league salary.

                              Must have been making a lot from the bets.
                              Yea, that's not a real lot of money, although 10k is still pretty low

                              I could be paid 50 million a year, and I would still throw a game for $5

                              That's just the type of guy I am
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                              • cashin81
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                                • 09-10-14
                                • 12946

                                #16
                                Originally posted by getaloadoffatso
                                Yea, that's not a real lot of money, although 10k is still pretty low

                                I could be paid 50 million a year, and I would still throw a game for $5

                                That's just the type of guy I am
                                Theyre not really throwing a game, just getting a yellow card on purpose.

                                Paquetta of west ham started the craze.... his hometown in brazil were all betting him big to get yellow and he got a bunch around that time.

                                Was investigated gone cold, like most do.
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                                • Foxx
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                                  • 05-25-11
                                  • 5831

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                  Davila is a weird one though. He prob earns near top of league salary.
                                  Must have been making a lot from the bets.
                                  Maybe the mentioned South American crime syndicate figure made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
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                                  • Enkhbat
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                                    • 04-18-11
                                    • 3145

                                    #18
                                    400K is enough to live on though, just pure greed. Intentionally getting a yellow card?
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                                    • cashin81
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                                      • 09-10-14
                                      • 12946

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Enkhbat
                                      400K is enough to live on though, just pure greed. Intentionally getting a yellow card?
                                      10k was the fee/ base salary lol
                                      much more would have been made from betting...
                                      everyones greedy now, just because you make 400k doesnt mean you dont wanna make 800k
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                                      • wombat
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                                        • 11-23-20
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                                        #20
                                        And for all these people that say match fixing is just conspiracy theory
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                                        • OldBill
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                                          • 11-02-21
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                                          #21
                                          saw long ago i soccer 2 teams played to a tie to prevent another from making it in but that was legal
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                                          • getaloadoffatso
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                                            • 03-14-23
                                            • 608

                                            #22
                                            I purposely walked 15 batters in a row, while pitching in a little league game, for a sno cone from the concession stand guy

                                            He was the brother of the opposing team's coach

                                            I was investigated, but never charged
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                                            • semibluff
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-12-16
                                              • 1515

                                              #23
                                              Technically this is spot fixing rather than match fixing. it's ensuring a prop bet hits rather than the win/lose outcome of a game. It's the easiest and most common form of fixing in football/soccer, which is more difficult to prove and convict. The highest profile soccer player known to have engaged in it is Matt Le Tissier who confessed to trying to fix the Under of a '1st time of the ball out of play' prop.

                                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEH0vjtN2e4
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                                              • Optional
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                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61539

                                                #24
                                                How global network of police uncovered alleged soccer betting sting

                                                It was 21 identical rapid-fire bets in just one minute, placed thousands of kilometres away, that set the stage for the biggest corruption scandal in Australian soccer.

                                                In December 2023, a South American crime syndicate, headed by a man police dubbed The Controller, allegedly placed the bets on a low-key game involving the southwestern Sydney A-League team Macarthur FC.

                                                The punters wanted Macarthur to be handed more than 3.5 yellow cards in the one game — and they allegedly paid team captain Ulises Dávila to help them pull it off.

                                                As the bets were placed, police allege an alert popped up in Birmingham on the network of the United Kingdom Gambling Commission, the organisation tasked with monitoring suspicious betting activity at home and abroad.

                                                The alert led to police uncovering another yellow card-manipulated game and another two failed attempts — what investigators allege is the tip of the iceberg.

                                                Full Story: https://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...06d34d9ae48ae4
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                                                • Enkhbat
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                                                  • 04-18-11
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                                                  #25
                                                  Hey Opti do you think bookies not accepting any bets on yellow card would a solution to this?
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                                                  • Optional
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                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                    • 61539

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Enkhbat
                                                    Hey Opti do you think bookies not accepting any bets on yellow card would a solution to this?
                                                    Some bookies would always offer it. But this sure shows how riggable spot betting is.
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                                                    • cashin81
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                                                      • 09-10-14
                                                      • 12946

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by cashin81
                                                      Theyre not really throwing a game, just getting a yellow card on purpose.

                                                      Paquetta of west ham started the craze.... his hometown in brazil were all betting him big to get yellow and he got a bunch around that time.

                                                      Was investigated gone cold, like most do.
                                                      West Ham midfielder Lucas Paqueta is charged by the FA for allegedly getting booked "for the improper purpose of affecting the betting market".


                                                      charged today
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                                                      • semibluff
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by cashin81
                                                        Not in the least bit surprised. I'm a West Ham fan and watched all of their EPL and European games. I've literally pulled my hair out at his behaviour this year. He slid into countless ridiculous challenges late or high, then he'd argue with the referee. If the referee didn't book him he'd do it again. So many times I said to my dad that he must be deliberately trying to get himself booked. If I had been asked to guess at 1 player in the EPL who was spot-fixing I would instantly have named him. I was hoping Man City would still be interested in signing him this summer. Oh well.
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                                                        • cashin81
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                                                          • 09-10-14
                                                          • 12946

                                                          #29
                                                          10 yr ban rumoured.

                                                          He was 1.7 to be booked for some games, so everyone knew.
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                                                          • Optional
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                                                            • 06-10-10
                                                            • 61539

                                                            #30
                                                            Paqueta joined West Ham from Lyon for an initial £36.5m in August 2022
                                                            why
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                                                            • cashin81
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                                                              • 09-10-14
                                                              • 12946

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                                              why
                                                              Lyon selling club. Most french clubs are.. still a step up to go to west ham.
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                                                              • Optional
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                                                                • 06-10-10
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by cashin81

                                                                Lyon selling club. Most french clubs are.. still a step up to go to west ham.
                                                                I was thinking he got that money, and was asking what is his motivation to fix yellows if that well paid.
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                                                                • cashin81
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                                                                  • 09-10-14
                                                                  • 12946

                                                                  #33
                                                                  he would have got 2-3mil from the transfer fee..

                                                                  Dunno. He would have been flush regardless.
                                                                  All I can think of is either he pressured from mafia from home to do it (brazil)... I think xhaka used this excuse when he got investigated for ONE time yellow card... everyone bet it.

                                                                  Or it was just a rumor and everyone just ran with it and bet him carded every game thinking it was fixed... but just coincence he got the cards.
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                                                                  • semibluff
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    West Ham are a financially ascending club. The club doesn't have especially rich owners. The money base comes from being a very popular club that now has a stadium that can generate income. West Ham play at what was the London Olympic stadium in 2012. The capacity when West Ham moved in was about 52,000 and people said West Ham wouldn't fill it. They were wrong. The capacity has since been increased to 62,600 and it's at capacity for every EPL game. West Ham are #2 in the EPL for home attendance, and #8 in Europe. The club's transfer spending has reflected their increased income.
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                                                                    • semibluff
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Lucas Paquetá is reportedly earning £7.8M per season, (as per Spotrac):

                                                                      spotrac.com/epl/west-ham-united-fc/cap/_/year/2024
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