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    Androyd, it's not a joke. Like I said - in tennis and NBA they usually involve the hook somehow. Why they're not with NFL who knows. But you know how people are laying chalk... -140 or get -130 especially if you're betting a decent size for your roll. What are the chances it falls on 14? At least that's how myself and most other losers think when we piss our cash away there.

    They're the largest book in the world for a reason. Whenever it's too good to be true it usually is

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    exactly but they get suckers who don't understand how much they are paying for these points

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duff85 View Post
    I said - when they fall asleep and give away value. In the screenshot that I posted on a tennis game they offered both a three way and two way line.

    The two way line was:
    Peng+3.5 -120
    Johannson-3.5 +100

    The three way line on the same game was:
    Peng+4 +125
    Johannson-4 +100
    Tie 4 +650
    so i assumed you hammered both johannson -3.5 +100 on the two way and peng +4 +125 on the three way and then they cancelled your bets? are you fukkin kidding me?

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    ^ That's probably -125, not +125. So practically -3.5 +100, +3.5 -125

    -14 +115 ("ties" lose) should be about +118 to have fair -ev. Probably expect worse for bet365

    The usual term would also be draw here, instead of tie? Because it's not soccer? Using push would make the most intuitive sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoyd androyd View Post

    so i assumed you hammered both johannson -3.5 +100 on the two way and peng +4 +125 on the three way and then they cancelled your bets? are you fukkin kidding me?
    No I just hammered them on Peng+4 +125. That was the soft side, but they are fukkin retarded. :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunde91 View Post
    ^ That's probably -125, not +125. So practically -3.5 +100, +3.5 -125

    -14 +115 ("ties" lose) should be about +118 to have fair -ev. Probably expect worse for bet365

    The usual term would also be draw here, instead of tie? Because it's not soccer? Using push would make the most intuitive sense.
    No they had an arbable line against themselves.
    Last edited by Duff85; 11-11-12 at 09:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    Androyd, it's not a joke. Like I said - in tennis and NBA they usually involve the hook somehow. Why they're not with NFL who knows. But you know how people are laying chalk... -140 or get -130 especially if you're betting a decent size for your roll. What are the chances it falls on 14? At least that's how myself and most other losers think when we piss our cash away there.

    They're the largest book in the world for a reason. Whenever it's too good to be true it usually is
    the only time you could play into these lines is if there's a scenario like duff showed where you could get +EV on two different wagers of a two and three way line of the same game without finding yourself in a polish middle.

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    $42.00 $36.50 Loss 4 Team Teaser (ties push) T tp 12nfl 12½fb & 9½bk
    Win 11/8/12 7:30pm College Football 107 Florida State -1 * vs Virginia Tech
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    damm nic ML parlay would almost be the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoyd androyd View Post
    are you seriously this stupid?

    do you really think that houston +3 -138 means that if chicago wins by 3 you would lose this bet because you "really only had houston +2.5"?

    seriously. please tell me this is what you believe so i can keep tearing you apart.
    I had a -16 live bet with the bears a few weeks ago. They won by 16 but i lost because there was a tie option. So yes basically I had -15.5.. I called them because i didn't know wtf and thought I should push but they explained this was a loss and sent me an email link, with the rules.

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    American football should never end in a tie...if the shit goes 3 or more overtimes oh fuckin well...

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    3 way lines are a great way to hide an increased vig, a little less obvious than Chicago -3 -120 and Houston + 3 -120

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    Why are the most completely and utterly stupid posters the most hostile? Just miserable.

    Anyway, a lot of euro books offer those 3 way lines on all American sports. It is a great way of hiding juice.

    The worst by a mile is bwin, who ONLY offer 3 way MLs on NBA. That way if the game goes to OT, they win both sides and lose the tie. Awful book.

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    Rams refused to win !!!

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    Don't bet NFL at a soccer book

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    10 fukkin quarters and still tied

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    Two ties in one year by the SAME TEAMS

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    What are the odds of that

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    Thank god!

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    54 yard fg

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