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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    the line says it all

    enough said

    del potro wins this one
    This is tennis, chief, not NFL. The way lines are set and line movement means absolutely nothing in this sport. You should know that if you have watched and bet tennis for as long as you say you have.

    "Line says it all" doesn't apply to this sport, No Coincidences JR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharaohUB View Post
    I wasn't responding to you. I am on Ferrer. Just everywhere I read people talking about fatigue and wanted to comment on it. I don't care if he's the fittest man in the world. 90% of the players on tour wouldn't be bothered by playing two sets a day for a year straight. So to make that your deciding factor is crazy especially with Ferrer. If Del Potro wins it's because he was the better player. Ferrer is in fine shape, and wants to win. Putting money on Del Potro on the basis you think Ferrer is going to lay over was stupid. If you think he's the better player then fine.
    agreed, good post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    Then please explain why ferrer is the dog here???

    - higher ranked player
    - great form winning 2 straight tourneys
    - better h2h stats against potro

    All things point to ferrer victory and yet he is the underdog....all the squares are pounding ferrer thinking its a early christmas gift

    Potro is losing first set right now...but I am telling you...he will come back to win this match.
    Most tipping websites are on Potro. Books aren't interested in picking a winner. They are interested in balancing the action as best they can. Ferrer was the dog because more money was on Potro. It's pretty simple. Ferrer didn't really beat anyone in the last tourny. Squares arent "all over" Ferrer. And where the money goes only wins half the time. or else books would be out of business.

    If Del Potro comes back and wins it has nothing to do with the line, or that Ferrer is tired, or that there is some conspiracy going on. It's because when you gamble their tends to be a fairly accurate chance of winning either side of the best based on what you play. if gambling were easy there wouldn't be millions of forums out there trying to find an edge.

    Del Potro could win. Ferrer could win. That's why we gamble.

    My only point was the fatigue angle was silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    This is tennis, chief, not NFL. The way lines are set and line movement means absolutely nothing in this sport. You should know that if you have watched and bet tennis for as long as you say you have.

    "Line says it all" doesn't apply to this sport, No Coincidences JR.
    LOL...go check Tennis Insights...I am one of the top earners over there.
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    Big problem with DelPo's first serve. He is getting his ass handed to him.

    Typical Tuesday Tennis Tit Twisting.

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    Blindly following, hoping this Ferrer guy can pull it out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharaohUB View Post
    Most tipping websites are on Potro. Books aren't interested in picking a winner. They are interested in balancing the action as best they can. Ferrer was the dog because more money was on Potro. It's pretty simple. Ferrer didn't really beat anyone in the last tourny. Squares arent "all over" Ferrer. And where the money goes only wins half the time. or else books would be out of business.

    If Del Potro comes back and wins it has nothing to do with the line, or that Ferrer is tired, or that there is some conspiracy going on. It's because when you gamble their tends to be a fairly accurate chance of winning either side of the best based on what you play. if gambling were easy there wouldn't be millions of forums out there trying to find an edge.

    Del Potro could win. Ferrer could win. That's why we gamble.

    My only point was the fatigue angle was silly.
    You are clueless if you think books have gotten even action at -140 for potro. Everyone I know and talked to have taken ferrer. I am pretty sure 80% of the bets have been on ferrer. And the books set the line knowing this will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    LOL...go check Tennis Insights...I am one of the top earners over there.
    k. so going by your same logic, I'm assuming you're taking Murray to beat Djokovic considering he's only getting a +115 line and Djokovic probably hasn't been less than -175 against Murray in over 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    You are clueless if you think books have gotten even action at -140 for potro. Everyone I know and talked to have taken ferrer. I am pretty sure 80% of the bets have been on ferrer. And the books set the line knowing this will happen.
    Yes I'm the clueless one. If they were taking unbalanced action monetarily speaking the line would have moved. I still don't understand why people believe that books are out to pick a side and get unbalanced action. Books don't exist to gamble. They don't need to. They have juice. It's a complete gamblers fallacy. until you realize this you will never win at gambling. Pick the better player in the best form in correct situation. Forget about all the other bullshit. Just because all your friends were putting their 50 dollar bets down on Ferrer, doesn't mean that there wasn't a few other people out there with deeper pockets balancing the action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharaohUB View Post
    Yes I'm the clueless one. If they were taking unbalanced action monetarily speaking the line would have moved. I still don't understand why people believe that books are out to pick a side and get unbalanced action. Books don't exist to gamble. They don't need to. They have juice. It's a complete gamblers fallacy. until you realize this you will never win at gambling. Pick the better player in the best form in correct situation. Forget about all the other bullshit. Just because all your friends were putting their 50 dollar bets down on Ferrer, doesn't mean that there wasn't a few other people out there with deeper pockets balancing the action.
    Vyguy knows this. But yeah 90% of sbr does not. They think books are always setting a line a certain way because they have an interest/lean on that side. Books don't gamble on probably 95-99% of games. Like you said, they don't need to in order to win. Once in a while they'll gamble on games. Some of the rookies think RLM means books are betting on that game. No.

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    DelPo with the break, far from over.

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    Del Po has really settled in here in the 2nd set.

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    Figures...

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    I told all of you after potro lost 1st set.... he will come back and win this

    Guess what...he is up 4-1 in 2nd set

    Pounded potro ml after 1st set

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    I told all of you after potro lost 1st set.... he will come back and win this

    Guess what...he is up 4-1 in 2nd set

    Pounded potro ml after 1st set

    dude dont jinx this for me please

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    I told all of you after potro lost 1st set.... he will come back and win this

    Guess what...he is up 4-1 in 2nd set

    Pounded potro ml after 1st set
    Not smart imo. I'm comfy with my ferrer bet. Del Potro is taking some big big swings to even compete here and he's bound to make some errors with the style he's starting to play these last couple games.

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    Well Ferrer's fitness will definitely be put to the test here in the 3rd set because he has been running all over the court in this match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt1216 View Post
    dude dont jinx this for me please
    I hear that.

    Dont worry, Delpo has no chance. On this slow court with that first serve, he is a dead man walking. Sorry bro, our Delpo tickets are fire starters.

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    Ferrer win. End of discussion. Thank me later!

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    Yeeeeeeeeeeeees ferrer break 2-0. Vaaaamooos

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    I told all of you after potro lost 1st set.... he will come back and win this

    Guess what...he is up 4-1 in 2nd set

    Pounded potro ml after 1st set

    People always gotta open their mouths when they get excited far before its over. ughh

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    fck me, Delpo folding like a Hobo's tent

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    what a point to 4-1...Ferrer is an amazing player....

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    DelPo is really battling but I think he is tired after that last game.

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    Yup, it's over. Nice call Goat ET al. Those small ++ odds in tennis are winners so often it begets the question why not just play them blindly for a month and see what results pan out. Delpo has one last shot this game.

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    Lets gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooo del porno!!!

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    Oh my fck god....its not real...ferrer what the fck!

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    chill out guys the match is not over

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    Wow Ferrer is going to blow this.

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    LoL. Everyone countin' their money already and it's not even close to over.
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    That's all I got guys. The rest is up to DelPotro...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    I told all of you after potro lost 1st set.... he will come back and win this

    Guess what...he is up 4-1 in 2nd set

    Pounded potro ml after 1st set

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    this kind of turn arounds make me wanna puke....

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    No worries Ferrer backers. Ferrer will prevail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffraff24 View Post
    People always gotta open their mouths when they get excited far before its over. ughh
    Quote Originally Posted by matt1216 View Post
    dude dont jinx this for me please

    What are you guys??...some 10 year kids with this jinx shit???

    if you believe in some "jinx"..stop gambling and go home...jesus christ man...what is wrong with you guys.

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