it is just wasted money to me. Obama is at around 85 percent chance at winning currently. I don't get how that is 'good' value?
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11-05-12 03:59 PM #71
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11-05-12 04:12 PM #72
based upon current Pinny odds of Obama +352/Romney -307, i get an implied win % of 76.63% for Obama.
other than presidential race, only race outside of Ohio to which i've paid much attention is McCaskill/Akin in Missouri. right now, Obama (nationally) + McCaskill + Sherrod Brown pays -140. probably gotta find one more to wrap in there.
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11-05-12 04:24 PM #73
Keep in mind that I'd like to take all the pollsters and throw them off a cliff, but they all disagree with you.
Originally Posted by BigDeem5
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11-05-12 05:12 PM #74
My money is on Obama since I have a hard time believing that Obama will lose. I also have money on Obama to win Florida at +150 which i think is a good deal.
From a pure betting perspective, taking +300 is good value if you believe the polls that Obama and Romney are tied.
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11-05-12 05:15 PM #75
millions more unemployed and on food stamps, 6+ trillion more in debt and credit rating lowered since King Obama go in. Not much to get excited about is there? No more blaming the other guy. Reagan never blamed Carter.
Romney should win. Hoping common sense prevails tomorrow.
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11-05-12 05:23 PM #76
Here's my prediction. Obama wins handily, media gets exposed for lying all this time about an even race to keep us tuned it, and the Fox news dolts blame the hurricane.
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11-05-12 05:25 PM #77
This is were I think many are wrong. Originally Posted by DwightShrute
Romney winning is a bigger disaster than Obama winning. They are both big government and have liberal stances on social issues, which means Romneycare (which pays for abortion, FWIW)... eh, just larger government.
If you are looking at the bigger picture, if Romney wins 2012, you are stuck with him next election. If Obama wins, in 2016 - you can have a real presidential race, where incumbency isn't real - and hopefully the GOP can find a real candidate.
Romney for 8 years is 4 years worse than Obama for another 4 years.
This country can't handle 12 years of Obamney on the heels of the worst 8 years in modern american history with Bush. That is two decades of polar opposites but equally failed policy.
GOP needs Romney to lose, so they can get a real candidate that is actual representative of the party.Nomination(s):This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: paranoyd androyd
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11-05-12 05:28 PM #78
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11-05-12 05:28 PM #79
If the GOP gets a candidate that is an actual representative of what they believe, they'll lose by 15 points.
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11-05-12 05:30 PM #80
If Obama wins their is no gop in 2016 the country has decided they want a nanny state resulting i the demise of the u.s. Tm we find out if we will be competitive against China or will we be Switzerland
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11-05-12 05:30 PM #81
I'm not swayed by this media bullshit. Originally Posted by ProfaneReality
I have Obama winning 538-0
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11-05-12 05:32 PM #82
Who are the fuks that say we can't gamble, don't want us watching porn. Who are the losers that don't want marijuana legal and don't think gay's should have any rights? Originally Posted by KingJD31
fuk the gop
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11-05-12 05:33 PM #83
with all due respect, I will just go with this guy's idea. After the dogs comment. Originally Posted by BiffTFinancial
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11-05-12 05:48 PM #84
romney to take iowa +230 at 5d. slightly behind in the polls and the farms there have enjoyed some sizeable farming and ethanol subsidies from obama that are scheduled to end soon but 88 percent white, 5 percent black...not a lot of young people...seems like ok odds.
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11-05-12 05:50 PM #85
Bud, both parties want big government. Don't be tricked into thinking otherwise. Originally Posted by KingJD31
If for one second you think any professional politician wants small government, you have wild misconceptions.
It would be like Opie saying he wants to make the oil companies smaller, or Walker saying he wants a smaller forum.
Politicians get paid by big government.
What the GOP is saying is they want "smaller government" in areas that are against their agenda.
GOP wants larger military. GOP wants to regulate individuals right to gamble or have abortions or choose who they are and are not allowed to marry. All, every single one of those, are part of the GOP agenda, and all of them require "big government".
Don't be fooled. Only small government proponents in this election are 3rd party candidates.
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11-05-12 05:50 PM #86
If you're bullish on Romney, start looking at stocks and industries that do well under R's. Do the same with stocks and industries that do well under D's if you're bullish on Obama.
Bush lowered my taxes and then the local Gov. raised all my "fees". It doesn't matter which party wins when it comes to daily life. I can't tell a bit of difference between Bush and Obama's time in the white house. Romney won't change shit either.
But the stock market will almost always react in certain ways depending on who has the white house.
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11-05-12 05:54 PM #87
HA! This is sad but true. Originally Posted by ProfaneReality
I have been trying to tell my parents they haven't been a republican since Reagan. They don't understand it. Modern day republicans do not represent your fathers republicans.
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11-05-12 05:54 PM #88
few things: Originally Posted by DwightShrute
1. love Gary Johnson, both as a candidate and as a prop. considering Johnson over 0.5% popular vote prop. and as to ideology, while i like Johnson, this idea that he trots out is old news: offer the people something "simple" and "fair" and of course they'll like it. most people are pro-good and anti-evil as well. i would be very interested to read a detailed study of the financial impact of such tax reform (emailing a friend who's a big Johnson supporter right now to see if he knows of one). to my knowledge, one does not exist. to be fair, that could be because such a study would require the cooperation of and data from the IRS, an agency with every interest in being obstructionist when it comes to tax reform proposals like this.
2. let's not get ideology twisted with handicapping. i don't even like President Obama, McCaskill or Sherrod Brown (in the case of the latter two, i simply despise their opponents, Akin and Mandel; Mandel lives not far from me and the guy is 100% douche). ideology is for suckers. let's figure out a way to make some money off this failed democratic experiment. i feel sorry for anyone ideologically invested in this horseshit.
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11-05-12 06:12 PM #89
Obama (Ohio) + McCaskill + Sherrod Brown + Colorado Amendment 64 = -102. that might be my play. wanted to parlay first three with Gary Johnson gets >= .5% popular vote, but won't let me parlay Obama with Johnson props. Ohio cheaper than nationally, though has been juiced by an extra 20c this afternoon. Originally Posted by BiffTFinancial
bad beat = losing on weed initiative in Colorado.
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11-05-12 06:31 PM #90
You know im third party guy, but difference between the the parties are the supporters. Repub supporters believe in small govt, whether the politicians are for that or not, the dem and Obama supporters actually believe in that shit he's preaching. Scary stuff
Originally Posted by ChalkyDog
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11-05-12 06:41 PM #91
No, bud, "republican" voters do not believe in small government. The republican voters believe, by and large, in the big government things I mentioned above. (big military, individal rights regulations, etc). Originally Posted by KingJD31
People who have been historically republican, and therefore vote republican because they think they are republican, are most likely independent in the current political landscape.
JD, Republicans currently believe that Obama is a secret muslim terrorist sent to destroy america through advancing a communist agenda. They also believe he wasn't born here. Same republicans will chastize "liberals" for cashing food stamps and being on welfare - while living out of a trailer and doing the same. Poverty isn't a liberal "thing" - it crosses political boundaries (Exhibit A: TTwarrior).
JD, you are not a republican - and have zero reason to back them. That isn't to say you are a liberal either. You most likely don't associate with either party, but are holding onto a relic of what the party used to be.
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11-05-12 08:56 PM #92
Originally Posted by DwightShrute
Fckin idiot
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11-05-12 08:59 PM #93
Amazing that you can read the mind of every Obama supporter. Originally Posted by KingJD31
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11-05-12 09:00 PM #94
This is silly. Originally Posted by d2bets
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11-05-12 09:04 PM #95
facts suck huh? Originally Posted by NYSportsGuy210
Fckin idiot
intelligent reply btw
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11-05-12 09:05 PM #96
Election Day Pick
2* Parlay: Obama (to win Ohio) + Sherrod Brown + Elizabeth Warren + Colorado Amendment 64 (YES) (+109)
when you ladies are done arguing about which side you're going to support that doesn't give a shit about you, i hope you get on this while it's still plus-money. or, perhaps you actually came to a sports/handicapping discussion board in the hopes of intelligently debating politics. in that case, heaven help you.
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11-05-12 10:12 PM #97
I can't wait to lick Y'alls tears. Romney wins.
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11-05-12 10:15 PM #98
romney +325 at my book .... just put my garage door on it
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11-05-12 10:50 PM #99
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11-05-12 10:50 PM #100
Thinking about betting the house on Mitt
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11-05-12 10:56 PM #101
Originally Posted by DwightShrute
dumbfukks really think he would vote republican..
And what work?? Cooking meth is work now????
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11-05-12 11:03 PM #102
When the polls have a push, the incumbent is for sure to be the loser. The country's #1 problem is national security, which is weakened by the poor economy. President Obama has no clue, compared to Romney's proven illustrious track record. President Obama will spend as much money as he can print, and dismantle this country piece by piece, leaving us more vulnerable. Romney will balance the budget, which the President hasn't even come close to doing his entire 4 years. Not even close. Obamacare has got to go, as the feds running the healthcare system verse free enterprise is the end to the best healthcare system in the world. As Romney said, let the States do it if they want for their people, as it's proven to be more cost efficient. That's why Romney wins, as he's a successful business man and knows what he's doing, and is what the USA needs right now to alter its course to bankruptcy. It's about survival here. Romney vs. Obama? Hard to believe that other than the Dems base, anyone else would re-elect 4 more years of trillions more in debt to China. The early voting ballots for the Dems is also down substantially, so that's a major sign right there. Major!
The fact is, billions upon billions that Obama spent, went to failed companies run by folks in President Obama's pocket. His blantantly lying to the country about 9-11-12 was a desbicable display of deceit, and highlighted the man as a coward, and not a leader of the USA. This passive weakness of the President was again displayed during the first debate, and yet again when he pulled executive privildge, verse being "transparent" on the fast & furious debacle. The two sides are more divided than ever, and as much as a white man wrongfully pulled too hard one way, this interracial man has pulled too hard the other way. There is utter gridlock, and no functioning, respected congress as the President has grossly failed to lead. Romney proved he could successfully lead as Governor in a 80+% democratic state. If any man could be in the center for ALL of America, who else but Romney?
Lastly, the stats are the stats. In 4 years of the Obama presidency, over 10 million more folks are on food stamps. Over 20 million Americans are unemployed. The cost of gas has doubled. Instead of cutting or maintaining the debt, trillions more has been run up like has never been ever seen before. Yet unemployment for blacks is skyrocketing, China is outsmarting us, Iran is threatening but Obama goes on talk shows instead of meeting with world leaders who are in town to speak, and Russia is making secret shady deals with the President which how good can that be for America? You got the CIA out of control with hookers in Columbia, GSA flushing millions of tax payer's dollars down the commode on sheer government waste, etc. and the President missing intelligence briefings!
They say the President can talk to world leaders on the phone, and get briefings forwarded to him like the meeting minutes I suppose, and doesn't need to be present. That's the problem. Where is our President? The President being at the briefings to give his undivided attention on the important matters, where he can sense urgency and emotion while making decisions that can save lives, is his job. To meet with the world leaders in person is to show mutual respect, and to literally see eye-to-eye on world peace. President Obama has not only failed to lead in a way that the country comes together to prosper, he has just flat out failed to lead.
Romney @ plus anthing is a gift, and at like +300 is delicious. In fact, I got Romney over +450 in September, and all tolled looks like I'm trying to turn $300 into $1,300.Last edited by 4seasons; 11-05-12 at 11:31 PM.
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11-05-12 11:03 PM #103
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11-05-12 11:20 PM #104
Originally Posted by 4seasons
Don't think I ever saw so many losing bets on one ticket.
This may be a new record.
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11-05-12 11:30 PM #105
lol you listen to a lot of Glenn Bunk and Rush Limpballs huh? Who both btw will be praying to Jesus for an Obama victory (million$ extra for them in book sales and pub) Truth of the matter is there is no "two party system". No one offering any real change gets anywhere near that office. Both support Israel, the UN, and are bought and paid for by zionist central bankers. "Change you can believe in" gets you sent to the morgue -JFK, RFK. But they have solved those messy clean up problems .. the right puppets only get near the office.BTW your bets toast, Originally Posted by 4seasons
Obama wins easy. There are no +300 gifts offered on election futures.
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