[neverstoppers23]

JD, I respect you man - but just top it. Obama is not close to the most liberal AMERICAN of all time. If you only included elected officials - you still have people like Ted Kennedy who makes Obama look like a Fascist in comparison.

Taking all Americans - that isn't even possible. Your average PETA member puts Obama to shame for his "liberalness".

I say Obama is center-left from a true liberal perspective. Very moderate in those terms.

obama has gov. very moderate on most issues. which is why i don't understand at all this socialist thing the far right wants to claim he is. but they also think he wasn't born in this country, and he is a muslim. so ...... i guess it all makes sense in a way.

[neverstoppers23]

Look up Gary Johnson, and don't waste your vote.

Romney wasn't even your main choice - or even 3rd choice, in a Republican primary. Do you realize how effing ridiculous that is that you are still backing him and voting for the guy?

vote gary johnson! hell yeah. get out there and go woot for your guy

[grease lightnin]

The comments in this thread show just how polarized American politics are today. Everybody with their head up their ass and not listening to anything except that which they want to hear.

[ChalkyDog]

vote gary johnson! hell yeah. get out there and go woot for your guy

While I do think Gary Johnson is better for this country than Obamney, the vote for a 3rd party is the most important thing you can do on election day. It's almost an American duty to restore order to this bullshit, and adding a 3rd party to the real political conversation is the best thing you can vote for.

If you aren't an asshat who is blinded by bi-partisan politics - there is only one choice come election day.

[neverstoppers23]

The comments in this thread show just how polarized American politics are today. Everybody with their head up their ass and not listening to anything except that which they want to hear.

i just look at the facts, in saying obama has a very slim chance of losing. i really don't understand why the media overplays this national poll bs. it has happend more then once where the guy who won the popular vote lost the election.

[Shafted69]

neo-cons & non-neocons are screaming at each other over at Faux Noos !

neo-cons disappointed in Mitt for flip flopping out of his war mongering positions.

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[DwightShrute]

The comments in this thread show just how polarized American politics are today. Everybody with their head up their ass and not listening to anything except that which they want to hear.

how anyone can get enthusiastic by either one of these guys is beyond comprehension. Nothing will change in all likelihood but things will continue to deteriorate under Obama. That's for certain.

[neverstoppers23]

While I do think Gary Johnson is better for this country than Obamney, the vote for a 3rd party is the most important thing you can do on election day. It's almost an American duty to restore order to this bullshit, and adding a 3rd party to the real political conversation is the best thing you can vote for.

If you aren't an asshat who is blinded by bi-partisan politics - there is only one choice come election day.

to me a vote for gary is a vote against romney. which helps obama. so its all good buddy.

obama has now made it guarnteed that i would get health insurance, and not denied the rest of my life because of my pre-conditions.

the health care law is such a personal issue for me, because i would be dead without health insurance. the problem is, people without health insurance, or who have it but have a terrible policy is that they don't go to the doctors when they start to feel pain. the caught my cancer in pelvis/sacrum because i was having heart burn. i had ulcers in my past so they do a ct of abdominal scan, and find it.
without health insurance, it would be months. till i was in real pain, by then the cancer would spread to my lungs. and once that happens the life-expectancy is less then 15 percent for MPNST.

and i know there are thousands of other people, who were in the exact same position. they wish, they would of went and found it at the first sign of it.

besides that. having a president in the white house who supports gay marriage is huge, instead of one who wants an amendment to define marriage as one man one wife.
i believe this is on five states in two weeks. and for the first time in american history, it looks like its going to pass in almost all of them. the president coming out for it, has a-lot to do it with it. and having your president say i support your rights is huge for everyone lgbt community.

[ChalkyDog]

how anyone can get enthusiastic by either one of these guys is beyond comprehension. Nothing will change in all likelihood but things will continue to deteriorate under Obama. That's for certain.

Fixed it for you.

You are willing to admit you have no choice, yet fail to continue down that logical thought, and instead let partisan bullshit into it.

[neverstoppers23]

neo-cons & non-neocons are screaming at each other over at Faux Noos !

neo-cons disappointed in Mitt for flip flopping out of his war mongering positions.

so cute to see their hope. will be watching it on election night. i loved to listen to chicago sports radio after the brewers would beat them.

[DwightShrute]

Fixed it for you.

You are willing to admit you have no choice, yet fail to continue down that logical thought, and instead let partisan bullshit into it.

thanks. you might be right

[ChalkyDog]

to me a vote for gary is a vote against romney. which helps obama. so its all good buddy.

obama has now made it guarnteed that i would get health insurance, and not denied the rest of my life because of my pre-conditions.

the health care law is such a personal issue for me, because i would be dead without health insurance. the problem is, people without health insurance, or who have it but have a terrible policy is that they don't go to the doctors when they start to feel pain. the caught my cancer in pelvis/sacrum because i was having heart burn. i had ulcers in my past so they do a ct of abdominal scan, and find it.
without health insurance, it would be months. till i was in real pain, by then the cancer would spread to my lungs. and once that happens the life-expectancy is less then 15 percent for MPNST.

and i know there are thousands of other people, who were in the exact same position. they wish, they would of went and found it at the first sign of it.

besides that. having a president in the white house who supports gay marriage is huge, instead of one who wants an amendment to define marriage as one man one wife.
i believe this is on five states in two weeks. and for the first time in american history, it looks like its going to pass in almost all of them. the president coming out for it, has a-lot to do it with it. and having your president say i support your rights is huge for everyone lgbt community.

In this instance, if I only had to choose between Obama and Romney, I am voting for Obama - simply because I know he will be gone in 2016, and hopefully the path will change. If Romney wins, all we are setting outselves up for is a potential for 8 more years of policies that mirror the last 4 years.

However, historically you are correct. Usually third party voters tend to come from the right.

[KingJD31]

Big Johnson fan I said that, those 3 would cut spending big

Look up Gary Johnson, and don't waste your vote.

Romney wasn't even your main choice - or even 3rd choice, in a Republican primary. Do you realize how effing ridiculous that is that you are still backing him and voting for the guy?

[ChalkyDog]

Big Johnson fan I said that, those 3 would cut spending big

Yeah, I knew that when I read your comment, and then failed to retain that I read that. My bad.

Point being - vote for Johnson!

[neverstoppers23]

LOL. no way in hell romney takes jersey or pa. he has a chance in n.h. that is the only new england state he does. obama has like a 10 pt lead in n.j. the lead has shrunk some in pa, but its still big.

ohio it does depend on what poll you look at, nbc had it at 6 a couple weeks ago. a quinibac poll has it at 5 today. but in the polls of polls if you measure em out the last few days obama still has around what 3-4? and even if you factor the undecided voters, romney will have to win around 65-70 percent of those undecided voters to carry the state.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/...d-narrows.html


pollster.com gives you the best info because it lists out all the polls. real clear polictics i don't understand at how they fact what states lean whatever way because they have michigan as a toss up. which is bs.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/...y-vs-obama?gem

i mean serioulsy, new jersey? obama is up 14 pts in one poll, 15 pts in the other.

pa, its closer, but that state has leaned left for a while in national elects. i don't see that changing.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/...y-vs-obama?gem

in the poll of polls in pa, obama is up 5.


i do think romney will win flordia, and north carolina, and i think he could win in coloradoa and virgina. but col and va, are so close. they could still go either way. whoever wins will be by less then 1.9 percent.

which is why ohio is so important because it puts obama over. and its the one 'swing state' that obama has a very clear edge in.

to put it simply.
if obama wins one swing state he wins the election.
romney has to win basically all of them to win.

****sorry to quote this whole thing. but just saw new polls for pa. three new ones. obama up 10, obama up 5, obama up 3. all came out today. just a couple hours ago.

[neverstoppers23]

In this instance, if I only had to choose between Obama and Romney, I am voting for Obama - simply because I know he will be gone in 2016, and hopefully the path will change. If Romney wins, all we are setting outselves up for is a potential for 8 more years of policies that mirror the last 4 years.

However, historically you are correct. Usually third party voters tend to come from the right.

well besides nadar who cost al gore the election, and could of saved us from george w bush. imagine if gore got elected. how much different america would be. instead of giving the tax cut like bush wanted, he wanted to save it, and invest it. maybe invest it in green enegry? we would never of went to iraq.

votes actually show gore won fl, by a few hundreds. not to go back 12 years. but that just depresses the penetrate out of me.
the voter machines in one county were so f'd up you could tell, so many votes were going for nadar. that were supposed to go to gore. just a really depressing thought. that we should of avoided bush.

[ChalkyDog]

well besides nadar who cost al gore the election, and could of saved us from george w bush. imagine if gore got elected. how much different america would be. instead of giving the tax cut like bush wanted, he wanted to save it, and invest it. maybe invest it in green enegry? we would never of went to iraq.

votes actually show gore won fl, by a few hundreds. not to go back 12 years. but that just depresses the penetrate out of me.
the voter machines in one county were so f'd up you could tell, so many votes were going for nadar. that were supposed to go to gore. just a really depressing thought. that we should of avoided bush.

That election proved how insignificant votes are.

In a recent book, Sandra Day O'Connor (the deciding 5th vote) said out of all the decisions she made while on the court - the one that still bothers her to this day was Gore v. Bush. She says that the court lost its way on that decision, by letting partisan politics stain a decision.

In a rather humorous way, she stated the reason she liked and voted for G.W.Bush was because he was cute.

[CanuckG]

Ann Coulter ‏@AnnCoulter
I highly approve of Romney's decision to be kind and gentle to the retard.

[DwightShrute]

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[paranoyd androyd]

The candidate is moot. I'll say it again, it's only the numbers of votes a 3rd party gets right now that matters.

And, to be perfectly clear - Gary Johnson is 10x better for our country than Obamney.

yeah, will likely vote for johnson but i preferred paul tbh.

[phillybadboy]

dwight shrute your boy got spanked!

[Boner_18]

Obama DOES have business experience!

[SBR Lou]

I think what's been understated is that Obama's attack mode was indicative of him knowing he's behind. The frontrunner does not go on the assault, Romney just didn't want to do something to screw up his own momentum, so he played it safe. You do that with the lead. A team up by 3 late in the fourth quarter doesn't throw the ball.

Obama is desperate. He's already resumed the trashing of Romney. He is NOT discussing his plans for the next four years. It's totally transparent.

[Sam Odom]

I think what's been understated is that Obama's attack mode was indicative of him knowing he's behind.

also... early surveys , post debate III , white women (soccer moms) found Mittens more favorable than Obama.

Romney's “Attacking me is not an agenda" played well with them