[ABEHONEST]

Wow! I can't believe we are going let them get by with this unethical, business behavior?
Yes, they have better than average lines and odds to play, but when you find out later, that they have [not proven yet] "hog-swindled" you with those juicier lines, available only for their special clients, I want to find them either, guilty, or innocent. And I gave these guys an A+ a month ago. I do think , maybe, they're stopped these smelly duel-lines? Has anyone else noticed any changes?

How could they even be bold enough to even attempt to pull this off, anyway?
I will look closely this weekend, meanwhile, also, call a couple insiders and see if our complaining has put an end to this, suspected, ugliness?
Okay, since I haven't heard a word form SBR over this gaming issue, I will have to file a legitimate complaint with SBR--that's whats they're here for, right--to govern Books and help safeguard their clients? I'll wait til Monday and see what develops first.

[BrianLaverty]

you really need to get a life.

[ABEHONEST]

you really need to get a life.

Okay, I'll bite. You're saying something, kinda mute-like? Or, maybe I'm hard hearing?

[cloverfield]

you really need to get a life.

Another day, Another Abe "I am constantly being wronged" Honest thread.
I think we should hook him up on a date with Emily Haines...They would really hit it off.

It's so bad that he has to make duplicate threads now for the same issue just to try and get noticed.

Sad.

[RonPaul2008]

Heritage is a great book even though they deal dual lines.

[prop]

Heritage is really scummy group of guys but you're not going to get anywhere here. Seriously just give it up (or at least stick to one thread), they have an army and have been protected on forums for around 8 years.

[RonPaul2008]

Heritage is really scummy group of guys but you're not going to get anywhere here. Seriously just give it up, they have an army and have been protected on forums for around 8 years.

What's scummy about them? They pay, they have good lines (even if they deal dual). I am just a player, have no affiliation with them besides playing there. I have had a great experience with them and been with them for a couple years already.

[flyingillini]

Abe needs to bow down to Heritage and the superior linesman they use and all of their staff. Heritage is the best and always has been the best. You probably lost your trailer to Heritage and mad because they wiped you out. Go get your ebt

[Emily_Haines]

just to try and get noticed.

Sad.

I like to use thread with big bets or titles with miss spelled words.

Works like a charm every time.

[prop]

What's scummy about them? They pay, they have good lines (even if they deal dual). I am just a player, have no affiliation with them besides playing there. I have had a great experience with them and been with them for a couple years already.

They have multiple slow pays against large winners. They have horrible terms no honest book should have (whether they use them or not that is true). They have tons of inventivized posters to bump up their reputation at every chance. They complete misrepresented the dispute with Cory's mom. They attempted to bully him at the start. A lot of dishonest stuff in that thread.

They pay most people, have legit players that like them fine. If I was stuck in the US I'd probably play there too. They're still very scummy though and would not want to be a owed a large sum by them no matter how many rush to their defence. But again state of the industry, and no big deal. I don't care about what line anyone else gets that much. I only care what bets someone offers to me. I understand both sides but don't really care a lot about the dual lines.

[mw00]

here's how i look at it..thats why you have multiple books and you play the best line. the beautiful thing even if they are dealing dual lines, you can not bet if you're not liking it. also i have an issue if they switch lines before you click confirm but if it's before, they dont know which side you like either....it could be to your advantage.

[ABEHONEST]

Prop is starting to look like one of those [like me] bluntly, 100%, honest guys! Refreshing to see this, because it is rare!
JJ, Fish, and Prop, are other old vets who deserve respect!
And, further more, any squirts with less than 1000 posts has no business even opening up any of my threads.

Flying Il. get's his favoritism toward Heritage, always.
He deserves his opinion, but is he on their payroll? Also, for the blind and young, I still never changed my rating from a A+. However, a Book should never deceive a client, or lie to a client!
Did they or have they?

[cloverfield]

What's scummy about them? They pay, they have good lines (even if they deal dual). I am just a player, have no affiliation with them besides playing there. I have had a great experience with them and been with them for a couple years already.

He doesn't even play there...but he's an expert on their policy from 2nd hand information.
prop..the same guy who was impartial one second in the Bonnie and Clyde scam thread and next minute Heritage is a bad group.
Cory must have offered to give him a cut if he gets paid.

Abe needs to bow down to Heritage and the superior linesman they use and all of their staff. Heritage is the best and always has been the best. You probably lost your trailer to Heritage and mad because they wiped you out. Go get your ebt

Poor Abe is against every book. Tomorrow there will be a thread from him about how a book sucks because their font is too small for him. If you make a post against a certain book Abe Honest is your best friend.

here's how i look at it..thats why you have multiple books and you play the best line...it could be to your advantage.

Exactly. A majority of the posters complaining about them don't even play there..take what they say with a grain of salt. Fishie had a problem getting paid via check...not uncommon in todays overseas age for any book.. all of a sudden that is paramount to a "slow" pay.

[prop]

Cory must have offered to give him a cut if he gets paid.

Listen punk. I don't sell posts on message boards and have never taken a penny to hold a book accountable, though have been offered many times. Your entire post history on this forum has been bumping up Heritage or attacking anyone that comments against them. Certainly it's not difficult to understand why someone such as yourself assumes others are for sale Thanks for the laugh though, always funny when the scum of forumville accuse me of being paid.

[raiders72001]

agree that prop has to be going in with cory on some type of lawsuit. He shows up in every Heritage thread with false accusations.

[prop]

If this was true I would disclose it and ten of your friends know this. I don't play games.

[raiders72001]

If this was true I would disclose it and ten of your friends know this. I don't play games.

I'm just showing you how stupid that you look when you accuse everyone that disagrees with cory as a Heritage shill. It's easy to play that card and you've done it a lot. Most, including yourself, are just stating an opinion.

[prop]

Edit: Was quoted before edit. See Post #19 and #21

[raiders72001]

Well I'm not here to look good. Re: the rest - Right a guy a starts an EZStreet thread about their bonus offer. Then says oh wow I just read that now he's 100% guilty. Then spends the next 13 months attacking him. The other guy has only 6 pages of post history. Read them, he's Heritage Sports #1 fan and extremely dedicated or he's incentized to post.

My history involves losing what's year's income to half this board over HedgeHog getting robbed at Sportsbook.com and never even spoke to him and he doesn't know it nor know me. It also involves getting ChipSplit to settle two six figure debts, getting offered a huge cut and declining any compensation when it was done. See people can ask around and research me, my track record does not have shady shit in it of getting paid to post.

agree that there's nothing in your record indicating shady work. I also agree that there are Heritage shills but you've lumped everyone that agrees with Heritage as a shill.

[Naz18]

This clown is always whining about something.....

[prop]

agree that there's nothing in your record indicating shady work. I also agree that there are Heritage shills but you've lumped everyone that agrees with Heritage as a shill.

I edited my post. No I most certainly have not.

I accused two specifically:

1) guy starts an EZStreet thread about their bonus offer. Then says oh wow I just read that now he's 100% guilty. Then spends the next 13 months attacking him.

2) guy has only 6 pages of post history. Read them, he's Heritage Sports #1 fan and extremely dedicated or he's incentized to post.

[ABEHONEST]

here's how i look at it..thats why you have multiple books and you play the best line. the beautiful thing even if they are dealing dual lines, you can not bet if you're not liking it. also i have an issue if they switch lines before you click confirm but if it's before, they dont know which side you like either....it could be to your advantage.

Sure, if the chosen Book doesn't hide what you're looking for! That is how this whole question of Heritage's tactics was started. Read closely young guys and then say something worthwhile.

[SBR Lou]

Heritage is really scummy group of guys but you're not going to get anywhere here. Seriously just give it up (or at least stick to one thread), they have an army and have been protected on forums for around 8 years.

Prop,

Speak in specifics or not at all. The forum isn't for agendas. You've done this against a few shops for some reason and your tune usually changes --- but you're not going to be permitted to try to tarnish a book's name with your vague generalities.

Heritage has an impeccable reputation financially. They've never stiffed a player, have no payout complaints on file, and I don't think I've ever even heard of many documented "slow-pays" aside from the one-offs against them. No book bats 100%, but Heritage is pretty darn close.

[easyliving]

bovada does the same thing. I have seen many times where they change a line before and after I sign in. For example last thursday cards-rams before logging in line is set @-2. however when I log in I get a -1.5 line. I sign out to make sure line didn't change and line is back to 2. I have seen this on multiple occasions where the line is changed after you log in. They profile a person and make half point adjustments depending on which side you prefer to bet.

[tuckman]

Poster Voodoo has been waiting 56 days for a check that he put in a request for on Aug 17th. First they just happen to forget to send it, then they send a check with different amounts all over the check so it wasnt cashable, so he had to send it back and wait for them to sign for it, find it and they finally put the cash back into his account as of yesterday. Now hes back to square one again, so now hes gonna have to wait an additional 10-14 business days to try it all over again.

[ABEHONEST]

Poster Voodoo has been waiting 56 days for a check that he put in a request for on Aug 17th. First they just happen to forget to send it, then they send a check with different amounts all over the check so it wasnt cashable, so he had to send it back and wait for them to sign for it, find it and they finally put the cash back into his account as of yesterday. Now hes back to square one again, so now hes gonna have to wait an additional 10-14 business days to try it all over again.

What Book are you talking about?

[raiders72001]

voodoo's complaint is legit. SBR should look into that one.

[BAUS]

I realize it is a common occurrence offshore, but no reputable jurisdiction (ie Vegas) would permit books to deal dual lines.

BAUS

[richsox24]

Voodoo is currently being slow paid by Heritage. Fishhead was slow paid by heritage very recently. But Lou is right, other than the people who were slow paid by heritage, nobody has ever been slow paid by heritage.

If you don't count my losing sports picks, I'm a documented 100% winners.

[raiders72001]

I realize it is a common occurrence offshore, but no reputable jurisdiction (ie Vegas) would permit books to deal dual lines.

BAUS

I'm not sure what you see wrong. It's also a common occurrence outside of the realm of gambling.

[Fishhead]

Prop,

Speak in specifics or not at all. The forum isn't for agendas. You've done this against a few shops for some reason and your tune usually changes --- but you're not going to be permitted to try to tarnish a book's name with your vague generalities.

Heritage has an impeccable reputation financially. They've never stiffed a player, have no payout complaints on file, and I don't think I've ever even heard of documented slow-payments against them.

Lou, wake-up and smell the costa rican coffee beans


Voodoo and myself were/are being severely slow paid.



http://forums.eog.com/showthread.php?t=334488

[raiders72001]

Voodoo is currently being slow paid by Heritage. Fishhead was slow paid by heritage very recently. But Lou is right, other than the people who were slow paid by heritage, nobody has ever been slow paid by heritage.

If you don't count my losing sports picks, I'm a documented 100% winners.

Unless someone confirms FH's story, I'm not buying it. FH and the truth don't go hand in hand.

[raiders72001]

edit

[richsox24]

Unless someone confirms FH's story, I'm not buying it. FH and the truth don't go hand in hand.

If my memory serves me right (and that's not a given), didn't FH used to be a big supporter of Heritage? I don't think he's making something like this up.

[SBR Lou]

Lou, wake-up and smell the costa rican coffee beans


Voodoo and myself were/are being severely slow paid.



http://forums.eog.com/showthread.php?t=334488

Hi FH,

I don't check other forums very often. SBR gets hundreds of disputes a month. There's no pending Heritage payment claim on our desks. What we ask players to do is submit a sportsbook complaint, or write in directly for assistance.