1. 09-28-12 02:29 PM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyk1133 View Post
    If you said this with a straight face, I think it's time to ignore everything else you ever say.
    Since people base things on the first 3 weeks of football...

    Larry Fitzgerald 14 181 12.9
    Andre Roberts 9 111 12.3

    Brian Hartline 13 202 15.5
    Davone Bess 13 174 13.4


    That's with a bum like Tannehill throwing too....
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    Kevin Kolb is getting a ridiculous amount of hate for some reason?
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  3. 09-28-12 02:32 PM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyk1133 View Post
    Without looking at their schedule I'd say around 8 to 10 wins. I certainly don't think they are a contender with Kolb at QB. I doubt he overcomes his deficiencies anytime soon. Everything will continue to hinge on their O-line and QB...which I don't think holds up all year.

    At the same time I can't ignore what they have goin on. That defense was legit long before anyone took notice this year. Very good options at the skill positions with the exception of TE. I like R Williams too.
    You want a point bet on o/u 9 wins?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpinaces View Post
    Tanahill sucks and he hasnt even faced a real nfl D yet. Is season actually starts this sun. Welcome to the nfl. You will see a rookie doing what rookies do!
    Yeah, I'm guessing when his offense scored no points, and he threw 3 interceptions and a fumble thrown in, he wasn't facing a good defense. Please, the Texans have a better defense than Arizona, ranked right around #2.
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  5. 09-28-12 02:45 PM #40
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    I want the over 2.5 on how many interceptions Tannehill throws in this game.
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    Miami is the team that is not as good as they look on paper right now.
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  7. 09-28-12 02:47 PM #42
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    Ari has won because of defense, not offense.
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    I do like Miami and the points.
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  9. 09-28-12 02:53 PM #44
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    Kolb is far better than Tannehill. Staying away from the side in this game and sticking with the under...

    Miami on the road with Tannehill could get interesting...
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  10. 09-28-12 02:57 PM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    You want a point bet on o/u 9 wins?
    and why would I want to do that?
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  11. 09-28-12 03:00 PM #46
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    Cards over valued here
    Field goal game
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  12. 09-28-12 03:00 PM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyk1133 View Post
    and why would I want to do that?
    Because you think Arizona is good?

    I don't blame you if you don't want to......
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  13. 09-28-12 03:05 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Because you think Arizona is good?

    I don't blame you if you don't want to......
    There's lot of good teams, doesn't mean there's value on their season win totals. Newsflash
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  14. 09-28-12 03:27 PM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    yu
    Flawed logic. By rights Arizona should be 1-2 and they were outgained in every game. Their best win came vs. one of the most overrated teams in football. If you don't look at the scores and just look at the stats, you will see where I am coming from with the fair line being 4/4.5. And Tannehill could actually be half-decent with Bush giving him support, while I have ZERO faith in Kob carrying a team with no run support.
    Good point. But I believe you played that the overrated Eagles over AZ last week based on that. And how good are the Fish. Got beat up by Hous, beat a suspect Oak team and could not beat the Jets at home. And you have a rookie QB going against a solid D on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    Good point. But I believe you played that the overrated Eagles over AZ last week based on that. And how good are the Fish. Got beat up by Hous, beat a suspect Oak team and could not beat the Jets at home. And you have a rookie QB going against a solid D on the road.
    Yes I did. But that's irrelevant now. I am not saying the Dolphins have a good team overall, but they do have a GREAT run defense. They are allowing 2.4 yards per carry and they faced Arian Foster and Darren McFadden the first two weeks. The Houston game would have been much closer if not for 4 turnovers. Remember it was a tight game before the Texans were gifted two quick touchdowns off of turnovers right before halftime. And the Dolphins probably should have beaten the Jets, they only allowed one offensive touchdown and Carpenter missed the very makable game-winning FG in OT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Yes I did. But that's irrelevant now. I am not saying the Dolphins have a good team overall, but they do have a GREAT run defense. They are allowing 2.4 yards per carry and they faced Arian Foster and Darren McFadden the first two weeks. The Houston game would have been much closer if not for 4 turnovers. Remember it was a tight game before the Texans were gifted two quick touchdowns off of turnovers right before halftime. And the Dolphins probably should have beaten the Jets, they only allowed one offensive touchdown and Carpenter missed the very makable game-winning FG in OT.
    Yeah the fish should have beaten the jets. I would take AZ if the line was 4, but if getting close to 7 would lean toward the Fish. Fish getting 5.5 at this time. Tough call.
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  17. 09-28-12 04:02 PM #52
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    So if AZ blows out MIA on Sunday, does K13 come back into this thread and admit he was wrong and had a wrong read on the Cards?

    Or will he refuse to admit he was dead wrong and justify it by saying that beating a horrible MIA team at home means nothing?

    Id probably lean towards the latter.
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  18. 09-28-12 04:02 PM #53
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    Playing at home with one of the best Corners and WR's in the league and this is the team you look to fade??

    Meanwhile, the Jets just lost their best player and play one of the best teams in the league coming off a loss, and no one even cares...

    Guess we're all looking for the "sharp" angle... Not good enough to win, we must win on a "sharp" play nowadays...
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    taking the Under is a smarter play
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  20. 09-28-12 04:10 PM #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    says the kid that said Balty wins by 20 and Stanford a lock
    Dont waste you time on that Square.
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  21. 09-28-12 04:11 PM #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    ks right again zona overpriced after catching philly in a bad spot last week.

    lt also makes a good point, zona could easily be 1-2 and have been outgained all 3 games.

    Dude WAKE UP philly is a MESS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    Playing at home with one of the best Corners and WR's in the league and this is the team you look to fade??

    Meanwhile, the Jets just lost their best player and play one of the best teams in the league coming off a loss, and no one even cares...

    Guess we're all looking for the "sharp" angle... Not good enough to win, we must win on a "sharp" play nowadays...
    You want a free pizza? I'll give you Arizona -4.5 (+100), 220 points. Post up for action.

    Niners might not even win that game.....
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  23. 09-28-12 05:01 PM #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    I'll give you Arizona -4.5 (+100), 220 points. Post up for action.
    I'll give you Titans +10 for 200 points. You did say the line should be -7.5 to -9.
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  24. 09-28-12 05:19 PM #59
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    dolphins were doing fine in the jets game before bush got hurt. bush is the dolphin's offense right now.

    kolb is way way better than tannehill.
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  25. 09-28-12 06:43 PM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol Diablo View Post
    So if AZ blows out MIA on Sunday, does K13 come back into this thread and admit he was wrong and had a wrong read on the Cards?

    Or will he refuse to admit he was dead wrong and justify it by saying that beating a horrible MIA team at home means nothing?

    Id probably lean towards the latter.
    The end result won't change my mind about either team. Nothing against Zona as I really liked them against Seattle.

    Buy Low, Sell High. Sell High, Buy Low.
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  26. 09-28-12 06:47 PM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyk1133 View Post
    I'll give you Titans +10 for 200 points. You did say the line should be -7.5 to -9.
    I'm giving someone a "deal" while you are offering less points....+13 was available, why not offer +14?

    How about you take Arizona -4.5 for 100 points and I'll take Tennessee +14 for 100 points? Seems fair to me.
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  27. 09-28-12 06:55 PM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    I'm giving someone a "deal" while you are offering less points....+13 was available, why not offer +14?

    How about you take Arizona -4.5 for 100 points and I'll take Tennessee +14 for 100 points? Seems fair to me.
    I have no opinion on the Cardinals game. I just thought since you had such a low line on the Titans that you'd be all over them this week.
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  28. 09-28-12 07:58 PM #63
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    Its a South beach Pacific time zone inside information underdog game of the year, good luck!
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  29. 09-28-12 11:12 PM #64
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    Tease the Dolphins?
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  30. 09-28-12 11:18 PM #65
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    Could be letdown spot for Arizona. Off signature wins over Pats and Eagles and with Thursday night division game at Rams coming up. If they're equally motivated as in past two games they'll crush Miami. That's a big if. They've won 10 out of the last 12 (extremely difficult in the NFL), and people are still wondering if they can play. Gotta love it. But not touching this one. Just not sure that they'll be sharp.
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    Last edited by ramones951; 09-28-12 at 11:49 PM. Reason: answered my question
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpinaces View Post
    Tanahill sucks and he hasnt even faced a real nfl D yet.
    Houston is the best D in the league according in many people ... Not 'real' enough??
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  33. 09-29-12 03:44 AM #68
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    Let down game big time. You have Kolb with new baby magic powers but the defense lost Dockett. Cardinals win, this could be an ugly last min FG win that though. When the Cards start to slump, they play down to their competition.
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  34. 09-29-12 06:28 AM #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpinaces View Post
    No as in thr scense that arizona should blow Miami out. Miami has lost 8-10 on the road and i personally dont see them scoring more than 10 of lucky. -7 is spot on. Miami is strait poop and traveling. Dont see how anyone could take miami here
    This..... Miami is awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachJB View Post
    This..... Miami is awful.
    the difference between "awful" and "good" teams is very small in this league....
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