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    Rings are so overrated

    Tons of great players stuck on shit teams

    If you really want to evaluate the worth of a player look at relevant stats

    Win Loss
    MVPs
    Superbowl rings
    Playoff games won
    Division titles
    etc. etc.

    All complete garbage

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    Rings are so overrated
    STFU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZetaPsi808 View Post
    your won GM would trade vick for ELI right now in a heartbeat
    you are 100% correct... but outside of that, he'd keep the eagles roster in a heartbeat

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    Racism is rearing its ugly head in this thread... If Eli was a black guy he would be Darius Rucker

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    Rings are so overrated

    Tons of great players stuck on shit teams

    If you really want to evaluate the worth of a player look at relevant stats

    Win Loss
    MVPs
    Superbowl rings
    Playoff games won
    Division titles
    etc. etc.

    All complete garbage
    i think Eli wold rate highly using those metrics ^^^

    great regular season WL record

    no MVP's

    2 rings

    8 playoff games won, maybe even more

    1 division title

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    Stats like passer ratings are not sexy but are much more telling, just like park-adjusted ERAs in baseball

    But yeah, Eli's rings are all about him and nothing to do with the team around him... you're right... I concede...

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    I think the Giants only missed the playoffs 1 or 2 years with Eli as a starter
    2 super bowls
    2 super bowl MVPs
    Playoff games won... on the road.

    How many playoff games has Romo won?
    How many playoff games has Vick won? or even been healthy for?

    Look at how receivers have stepped in, done well with the giants and moved on, and not done as well.
    Jermey Shockey
    Kevin Boss
    Jay Ballard
    Steve Smith
    Victor Cruz came out of nowhere
    Manningham had success
    Nicks has had success
    He made the guys around him better but still has haters.

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    Wonder how many rings Urlacher would have if the Bears didn't have horseshit QBs year after year...

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    Quarterbacks have more of an impact on teams than MLBs.

    You could put the best kicker in NFL history on the Oakland Raiders and what would they have won the last 10 years? Nothing.

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    Eli is solid he has more let down games then any other star qb but when he's on he's got deadly accuracy

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    eli manning proves again how good he is

    look at the RB's and WR's he had to work with tonight when the giants won 36-7 on the road

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=320920029

    andre brown at RB

    martellus bennett at TE

    ramses barden at WR

    none of these were any good before this season

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    Giants cover the 4th quarter every single game, even with a huge lead they cover

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    Quote Originally Posted by face View Post
    k13 mad eli kicked out 49ers last year
    No news here, his buttocks are still sore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    Giants cover the 4th quarter every single game, even with a huge lead they cover
    Quote Originally Posted by p19101 View Post

    No news here, his buttocks are still sore.

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    Giants don't make playoffs this year

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    Eli Manning does it again with another 4th quarter comeback and throwing the winning 77 yard TD bomb

    damn i miss those haters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Giants don't make playoffs this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    I think that is what k13 says every year

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