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  • KVB
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-29-14
    • 74817

    #36
    Originally posted by jrgum3
    I had the over and I won because Calaballo lasted 1:31 in the 6th round to make it past 5.5 rounds.
    What book, curiously.

    This could be interesting how it gets graded across the world.

    But it sure looks like the UNDER to me.
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    • polskboy
      SBR MVP
      • 01-29-10
      • 1688

      #37
      Originally posted by KVB
      It's UNDER.

      When the ref has his hand on the boxer, the match is already over.

      1:33 or so.
      thank you . How do I make a complaint? I need to do that because this book have horrible costumer service.
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #38
        Originally posted by asiagambler
        Then they are wrong
        lol, I hope I didn't confuse him with my intial posts. That was my bad.
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        • polskboy
          SBR MVP
          • 01-29-10
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          #39
          Its fox bet . I just called bookmaker.eu and spoke to the rep they told me they have it under 5.5
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          • polskboy
            SBR MVP
            • 01-29-10
            • 1688

            #40
            Originally posted by KVB
            lol, I hope I didn't confuse him with my intial posts. That was my bad.
            No problem brother we all can get little confused.
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            • KVB
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 05-29-14
              • 74817

              #41
              Originally posted by polskboy
              thank you . How do I make a complaint? I need to do that because this book have horrible costumer service.
              Try the book's customer service first, in general that's the best policy.

              No reason to rush to SBR over something that is obviously up for question as different books have it differently.

              It's best to give them time to sort it out, but still reach out to them.

              They may suck, but you have to admit this is a close one so however it gets ruled, books need some time to sort it out.

              Here's the complaint form, but I really don't think you need to come to this point, yet...

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              • jrgum3
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-21-17
                • 7005

                #42
                Wow originally they graded my over bet a winner but later changed it to a loss. I guess it really was stopped before he made it half a round. Anyway, Bookmaker made a mistake originally and later corrected their mistake upon further review.
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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #43
                  Originally posted by polskboy
                  Its fox bet . I just called bookmaker.eu and spoke to the rep they told me they have it under 5.5
                  Pretty sure that's your fianl answer...UNDER.
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                  • polskboy
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-29-10
                    • 1688

                    #44
                    Originally posted by KVB
                    Try the book's customer service first, in general that's the best policy.

                    No reason to rush to SBR over something that is obviously up for question as different books have it differently.

                    It's best to give them time to sort it out, but still reach out to them.

                    They may suck, but you have to admit this is a close one so however it gets ruled, books need some time to sort it out.

                    Here's the complaint form, but I really don't think you need to come to this point, yet...

                    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
                    look at my last thread everyone it the world had 9 shots on goal but they come up with 8 and refused to grade the bet as winner.
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #45
                      Fox probably looked at BM intially and then graded...lol, missing the correction.

                      It's all bookmaker's fault.

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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #46
                        Originally posted by polskboy
                        look at my last thread everyone it the world had 9 shots on goal but they come up with 8 and refused to grade the bet as winner.
                        Didn't see but unless they had some fine print on the prop that sounds worthy of a complaint.

                        Don't let them do that to you, not even once.

                        You might still be able to submit a complaint for that other prop, let SBR sort it out.
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                        • jrgum3
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-21-17
                          • 7005

                          #47
                          Originally posted by KVB
                          What book, curiously.

                          This could be interesting how it gets graded across the world.

                          But it sure looks like the UNDER to me.
                          I used Bookmaker. They orginally graded my bet as a winner but I went to check 5 minutes ago and they have since changed it. After watching the replay though I can see Under is the correct bet here because he went to his knees at 1:33 of the 6th round and Tony Weeks stopped it.
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                          • KVB
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #48
                            Originally posted by jrgum3
                            I used Bookmaker. They orginally graded my bet as a winner but I went to check 5 minutes ago and they have since changed it. After watching the replay though I can see Under is the correct bet here because he went to his knees at 1:33 of the 6th round and Tony Weeks stopped it.
                            That's what I'm seeing. Before Weeks even got to him, he waved it off.

                            They let the clock run, so it was quickly under 1:30 and that's probably what happened at BM when the graded.
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                            • polskboy
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-29-10
                              • 1688

                              #49
                              Yes .I seen it on espn ,i was like wtf just happened? I win? Lol
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                              • jrgum3
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-21-17
                                • 7005

                                #50
                                Originally posted by KVB
                                That's what I'm seeing. Before Weeks even got to him, he waved it off.

                                They let the clock run, so it was quickly under 1:30 and that's probably what happened at BM when the graded.
                                That's what threw me off because I thought he survived until 1:29 left in the 6th round when the ref waved it off.
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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #51
                                  It was a buzzer beater for sure.
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                                  • polskboy
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-29-10
                                    • 1688

                                    #52
                                    He waved It off at 1:33 but they marked officially at 1:31
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                                    • polskboy
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-29-10
                                      • 1688

                                      #53
                                      Hello they sent me an email at 6am today and now their story have changed now they saying that the fight ended at 1.30 and they not going to pay me.
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                                      • polskboy
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-29-10
                                        • 1688

                                        #54
                                        I just made a complaint with sbr.
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                                        • BigJay
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-14-12
                                          • 3485

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by polskboy
                                          He waved It off at 1:33 but they marked officially at 1:31
                                          You can clearly hear Referee Tony Weeks say, “That’s it.” At the 1:33 mark, as soon as the liver shot is landed.


                                          Fight was called with three seconds to spare for UNDER bettors.

                                          Even if official clock says 1:32 or 1:31, under still wins.

                                          Never is there a scenario where UNDER bet pushes or loses
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                                          • BigJay
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-14-12
                                            • 3485

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by BigJay
                                            You can clearly hear Referee Tony Weeks say, “That’s it.” At the 1:33 mark, as soon as the liver shot is landed.


                                            Fight was called with three seconds to spare for UNDER bettors.

                                            Even if official clock says 1:32 or 1:31, under still wins.

                                            Never is there a scenario where UNDER bet pushes or loses
                                            Also, I think if ESPN doesn’t keep showing the clock after the fight is over there is no controversy about this bet.

                                            I think the confusion (and what is giving books the ability to make up their own rules that seemingly benefit them) is the fact the clock was still showing on the screen winding down for five or six seconds after the referee officially ended the fight at 1:33 by saying “That’s it.”
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                                            • polskboy
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-29-10
                                              • 1688

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by BigJay
                                              Also, I think if ESPN doesn’t keep showing the clock after the fight is over there is no controversy about this bet.

                                              I think the confusion (and what is giving books the ability to make up their own rules that seemingly benefit them) is the fact the clock was still showing on the screen winding down for five or six seconds after the referee officially ended the fight at 1:33 by saying “That’s it.”
                                              I agree with you ,plus it was shown on espn and after the fight the verdict was made and they said 1:31
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                                              • polskboy
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-29-10
                                                • 1688

                                                #58
                                                Bookmaker.eu originally had it for over and few minuts later the made the correct call for the under.
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                                                • BigJay
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-14-12
                                                  • 3485

                                                  #59
                                                  As soon as the first story I read about the fight said, sixth round, 1:31 KO, I knew there was going to be controversy with the books surrounding when this fight ended.

                                                  O/U 5.5 rounds. Hard to make this one up
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                                                  • polskboy
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-29-10
                                                    • 1688

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by BigJay
                                                    As soon as the first story I read about the fight said, sixth round, 1:31 KO, I knew there was going to be controversy with the books surrounding when this fight ended.

                                                    O/U 5.5 rounds. Hard to make this one up
                                                    Bookmaker.eu got it at under 5.5. This is not the first time they doing this to me.
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                                                    • polskboy
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-29-10
                                                      • 1688

                                                      #61
                                                      But really this should be 15 sec earlier because the clock was running when there was an low blow 20 sec before the fight was called.
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                                                      • polskboy
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-29-10
                                                        • 1688

                                                        #62
                                                        Is sbr going to contact me?
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                                                        • milwaukee mike
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 08-22-07
                                                          • 26914

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                                          Pretty sure that's your fianl answer...UNDER.
                                                          the fight officially ended at 1:31 of round 6

                                                          that means 1:31 HAD ELAPSED

                                                          5dimes correctly graded the over a win
                                                          bovada correctly graded the over a win
                                                          bookmaker initially correctly graded the over a win... then reversed course and graded it a loss

                                                          i mentioned they were wrong on chat 12 hours ago and yet my over remains graded a loss
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                                                          • polskboy
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-29-10
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                            the fight officially ended at 1:31 of round 6

                                                            that means 1:31 HAD ELAPSED

                                                            5dimes correctly graded the over a win
                                                            bovada correctly graded the over a win
                                                            bookmaker initially correctly graded the over a win... then reversed course and graded it a loss

                                                            i mentioned they were wrong on chat 12 hours ago and yet my over remains graded a loss
                                                            1:31 this means under hits.i watched that fight you could hear ref scream at 1:33
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                                                            • milwaukee mike
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 08-22-07
                                                              • 26914

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by polskboy
                                                              1:31 this means under hits.i watched that fight you could hear ref scream at 1:33
                                                              the time is how much time has EXPIRED, not how much time is remaining. once 1:31 has elapsed it's OVER

                                                              and the official result should count, not when the ref is screaming... what about a ufc fight where a guy obviously lost but wins on judges' scorecards? are we gonna let the book decide that too?
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                                                              • milwaukee mike
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                                                                • 08-22-07
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                                                                #66
                                                                even hugo in the other boxing thread agrees that his under should be a loss, and my over should be a win

                                                                weird situation when guys are upset on both sides depending on the book, but this is clear cut 100% over

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                                                                I had a bet on the Under and it was graded as a loss. The fight was actually stopped at 1:27 of R6 but they gave the official time of 1:31 of R6. Based on that official time your O5.5 bet should be a winner. Hopefully they get that fixed for you.



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                                                                • Hugo de Naranja
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-14-16
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Milwaukee Mike is right. I bet the Under and it was correctly graded as a loss based on the official time. That is what they should be grading off of.
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                                                                  • polskboy
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                                                                    • 01-29-10
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                    Milwaukee Mike is right. I bet the Under and it was correctly graded as a loss based on the official time. That is what they should be grading off of.
                                                                    Nah bookmaker got it right ref is the one that stopped the fight at 1:33 then like mike wrote they make the time elapsed and pushed to over I look at the tape 5 times already ref in the ring we all should be looking at .
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                                                                    • milwaukee mike
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 08-22-07
                                                                      • 26914

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by polskboy
                                                                      Nah bookmaker got it right ref is the one that stopped the fight at 1:33 then like mike wrote they make the time elapsed and pushed to over I look at the tape 5 times already ref in the ring we all should be looking at .
                                                                      yeah but that's not what bets are graded on, they are graded on official results... although i definitely see your side, something was totally rigged on that timekeeper waiting, since i'm pretty sure books saw mostly action on the under

                                                                      which book are you trying to get an adjustment?
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                                                                      • polskboy
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-29-10
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                        yeah but that's not what bets are graded on, they are graded on official results... although i definitely see your side, something was totally rigged on that timekeeper waiting, since i'm pretty sure books saw mostly action on the under

                                                                        which book are you trying to get an adjustment?
                                                                        Foxbet. They penetrate me over two weeks ago on shots on goal ,so we have a history. Books are grading bets as it suits them maybe even both ways,this fuckory have to stop.
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