[horja1]

[shari91]

Great offer Rick! Thanks

books ban people for betting steam which is proof it does work.

I'm testing out this theory now at a Euro book that's driving me nuts.

Going to bet every move that comes through SO for the next couple of hours... we'll see if I last with these tossers after this. Only putting $100 a play on though so maybe that's not enough for them to even care.

[yisman]

One thing I noticed from my first night trying the software:

three times there was a 'steam play' and/or 'key move' and it came right back.

Steam play on Cleveland, then later steam on Texas brought it right back to where it was.

Same for Yankees, and then Boston.

Finally, the Atlanta over, and the Atlanta under.

Got head faked like crazy.

[crustyme]

jj giving out serious gambling advice while down $58,500.

too funny.

[blowseq]

i hate Java

[k13]

Where are the public %'s from?

[xelemental]

i dont understand this. i never used something like this before. I went to go look at the football odds for this sunday but it just shows me lines from so many other books. does it give recommendations?

[shari91]

So I followed some of these steam and key moves last night like I mentioned earlier.

Results so far:

Yankees/Red Sox under 10: Win

San Antonio/Tulsa Shock under 161.5: Win

Tigers/White Sox over 8.5: Win

Atlanta/Brewers over 7.5: Win

Giants/Rockies under 10: at 9 runs end of the 7th so not looking great

Blue Jays -117: Loss


I'm pretty impressed for my first time chasing steam. I assume it's beginner's luck.

[jjgold]

So I followed some of these steam and key moves last night like I mentioned earlier.

Results so far:

Yankees/Red Sox under 10: Win

San Antonio/Tulsa Shock under 161.5: Win

Tigers/White Sox over 8.5: Win

Atlanta/Brewers over 7.5: Win

Giants/Rockies under 10: at 9 runs end of the 7th so not looking great

Blue Jays -117: Loss


I'm pretty impressed for my first time chasing steam. I assume it's beginner's luck.

Over time they are big time losers and I mean big

Everyone would buy it and just sit home and bet these and be rich

There is a reason line services have a medicoire subscription base

[yisman]

it happens every day

I guess the syndicates have great fun bashing the numbers back and forth. One syndicate bets one way, then the other comes back and goes the other way.

A lot of the key/steam I get are on opposite sides.I got key move and steam play today tb/bal under, then a key move right back on the over.

Key-Move Alert
09/13/12 12:32:39pm
MLB: Game 955 Tampa Bay/Baltimore - UNDER
12:32:27pm	44Wager	was 8½u-120	is 8u-120
12:32:28pm	Click and Bet	was 8½u-120	is 8u-120
12:32:39pm	BetOnline	was 8½u-125	is 8o-120
12:32:39pm	SportsBetting	was 8½u-125	is 8o-120

Steam-Play Alert

09/13/12 09:32:39am

MLB: Game 955 (ORN# 3409) Tampa Bay/Baltimore - UNDER 8½

Key-Move Alert
09/13/12 12:35:59pm
MLB: Game 955 Tampa Bay/Baltimore - OVER
12:35:46pm	BetUS	was 8	is 8½u-125
12:35:50pm	BetKill	was 7½o-120	is 8u-119
12:35:53pm	Heritage	was 7½o-120	is 8u-120
12:35:59pm	MyBookieShop	was 8u-120	is 8½u-120

[blowseq]

it didnt work on my MAC, had some problems with JAVA! Now using it on Windows, looks good!

[yisman]

Over time they are big time losers and I mean big

Everyone would buy it and just sit home and bet these and be rich

There is a reason line services have a medicoire [sic] subscription base

Did you even read what I wrote before?

But I'm sure you know plenty about line services. After all...

Ships approaching
Watch CNN like I do instead of sports

So much for all the lies about watching a lot of tennis.

[RudyRuetigger]

Rick, can you please answer...

Main reason I do not spend the money is because public percentages.
What makes yours better? Where do your percentages come from?
I have seen respected people say sportsinsights is better in that area, so would like to know where you are?

[yisman]

shari, go to system plays on the title bar and select steam plays. They have a history of steam plays and whether they won or lost.

[shaunovery]

I'm trying it its very confusing bloody numbers everywhere it looks like a more jumbled version of sbrodds.com

Anyone think it's worth the basic 99 bucks a month

[The Giant]

I'm trying it its very confusing bloody numbers everywhere it looks like a more jumbled version of sbrodds.com

Anyone think it's worth the basic 99 bucks a month

I agree. It's very jumbled.

I actually signed up with them a little over a week ago, for the one-week free trial offer.

At the end of the week, on the 11th, I e-mailed some guy named Chris and asked him a couple of questions because I was considering purchasing a month of their service through SBR.

I'm still waiting for Chris to answer.

So, jumbled. And bad customer service.

[jjgold]

Sports Options tried getting too cute and ruined it

Don Best is much crisper and geared to a professional book and player
10x better software

Pioneers of line services

[CanuckG]

JJ use to hammer DonBest but was told to stop

JJGold: We are tired of your slanderous and false statements about our company. You have never been a customer of Don Best Sports, so you are not in any position to offer an opinion on our service. Lines are not delayed, and betting is not taking place in our office. You have absolutely no basis for your accusations, but that doesn't seem to be anything new for you. It's a shame that there is a (slight) possibility that some unsuspecting reader might take you seriously.

Our Premium service is used by thousands of customers all over the world, including the largest professional gamblers and licensed sportsbooks. Any serious player can't do without the service. We have endorsements from the most respected people in the industry. In fact, one need not look further than the people operating this site for an endorsement, since they are paying subscribers to our service. Now are you going to try and tell sharky522 that all those very sharp people are wrong, and you, with your $50 bets, are in a position to know what you're talking about?

sharky522: Please reserve judgement about our service until you get an answer to your question from someone that is qualified to answer. You are welcome to call or e-mail us for any questions or references. (800) DON-BEST or danac@donbest.com. Thank you.[/b]

[yisman]

How do I get Pinnacle back onto my list? It was always there until today. Now I have Carib and a bunch of Vegas books there.

[baskets]

yizzy, JJ is actually right

lots of naive ppl out there


product not necessary

[RudyRuetigger]

How do I get Pinnacle back onto my list? It was always there until today. Now I have Carib and a bunch of Vegas books there.

Setup

COlumns


Or, right click where another book is. such as cris. right click - add column here

[shari91]

shari, go to system plays on the title bar and select steam plays. They have a history of steam plays and whether they won or lost.

One of many reasons chasing steam would never work for me is because of the time difference. A lot of them come through when I'm asleep or out for the day. Definitely having fun with it so far although if I'd lost the past two days I'm sure I'd feel differently

[jjgold]

yizzy, JJ is actually right

lots of naive ppl out there


product not necessary

I am always right as far as line services

EXPERT

[yisman]

yizzy, JJ is actually right

lots of naive ppl out there


product not necessary

jj is very rarely right about anything and this is not one of those times.


and thanks rudy, although the problem is on their end because the list that comes up doesn't include Pinnacle.

I shut down and reopened the program and now the real books are back again. They're screwing around. I certainly didn't go and delete 20 books.

[ferndog]

Long term those steamers win at about 55% and probably less than that. By the time u try to play that play the value might be long gone so the original steamer might be a winner but because u had 1/2 pt higher or lower your play is a loser because of the move. Just wait for college bb. I counted on a Saturday at least 100 steam move plays in 1 day. Baseball is the slow time of year. Sometimes they can win u 10 out of 12 plays but then they can and will also lose in that manner.....What i liked about the software is that i was always alerted about injuries.

[Br0nxer]

of course chasing steam doesnt work

without 25 fukkin outs and slow moving books. and even then you would be limited

why would anyone fukkin work

if it did work people would just sit home stacking paper all fukkin day

[blowseq]

Sports Options is good but i would like to see DonBest Real-Time Odds on SBR Store

[shari91]

of course chasing steam doesnt work

without 25 fukkin outs and slow moving books. and even then you would be limited

why would anyone fukkin work

if it did work people would just sit home stacking paper all fukkin day

Who in this thread is trying to say it works?

[yisman]

Long term those steamers win at about 55% and probably less than that. By the time u try to play that play the value might be long gone so the original steamer might be a winner but because u had 1/2 pt higher or lower your play is a loser because of the move. Just wait for college bb. I counted on a Saturday at least 100 steam move plays in 1 day. Baseball is the slow time of year. Sometimes they can win u 10 out of 12 plays but then they can and will also lose in that manner.....What i liked about the software is that i was always alerted about injuries.

Obviously if you play a steam play after the move you're not going to win.

That's just betting bad numbers.

The real reason betting steam doesn't work is twofold:

A)Most reputable books move fast.
B)The ones that don't will simply boot you (or limit you severely) if you keep doing it.

[baskets]

yizzy, JJ is right on this issue

he puts on his entertainment show but the guy is smart. it's all an act


also, JJ knows that Brian Laverty is a fraud just as well as I do. this is not rocket science here

[Br0nxer]

Sports Options is good but i would like to see DonBest Real-Time Odds on SBR Store

is don best better?

[yisman]

yizzy, JJ is right on this issue

he puts on his entertainment show but the guy is smart. it's all an act

Right, it's an act. Basically everything he posts is part of that act, and therefore wrong. His posts about sports, gambling, and pretty much everything are very off.

[RickA]

Rick, can you please answer...

Main reason I do not spend the money is because public percentages.
What makes yours better? Where do your percentages come from?
I have seen respected people say sportsinsights is better in that area, so would like to know where you are?

Hi Rudy,

At the sportsbooks' request, we cannot give out the name of books that provide us with betting data.

As far as comparing our Public% with SI, I know that we have a few more sportsbooks included in our numbers, but I wouldn't necessarily make our better. SI does a good job with betting data as well.

Thanks
Rick

[blowseq]

is don best better?

Haven't used them but i heard Don Best is the best in this business.. their 1 Month Subscription is $499

[shari91]

Obviously if you play a steam play after the move you're not going to win.

That's just betting bad numbers.

The real reason betting steam doesn't work is twofold:

A)Most reputable books move fast.
B)The ones that don't will simply boot you (or limit you severely) if you keep doing it.

And this is why I was interested in testing this for fun. I suspected one of my books would be slow and wouldn't give two shits even if they did figure it out and I was right. So we'll see how we go for the rest of my trial. I've upped the size of my bets because I'm playing with quite a bit of profit now so I may as well see it through.