1. 09-02-12 07:26 PM #1
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    Ryan Braun should be NL MVP again

    I don't see anyone all that much better. McCutchin maybe, but I am skeptical to say the least. Consider that Braun leads the NL in HR and RBIs (two "traditional" stats) and he is leading the NL in Slg, OPS, WRC, and WAR (fangraphs). Virtually in the top 5 of every offensive category if he is not #1. He has more steals than any other MVP contender. All this coming into the year with all the scrutiny on him for alleged steroid use. Not to mention no Prince Fielder batting behind. Of course we know how predictable the voters are going to be by picking a player on a winning team. It's not Braun's fault the Brewers' bullpen sucks.

    Sorry, I don't see a better or "more valuable" player on any team other than Braun in the NL.
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  2. 09-02-12 08:08 PM #2
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    Need to have a decent team to be mvp and they are one of the worst in mlb
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  3. 09-02-12 08:12 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by wtt0315 View Post
    Need to have a decent team to be mvp and they are one of the worst in mlb
    They are 6.5 games out of the wild card.
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  4. 09-02-12 08:40 PM #4
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    Might be right
    No Prince Fielder to protect him in the lineup either

    If you watch some of the Brewers games, he does spark that offense

    And the Brews ain't totally out of it either
    Lets see what they can do in the next week
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  5. 09-02-12 08:40 PM #5
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    braun is a fraud
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  6. 09-02-12 08:46 PM #6
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    The bullpen has blown some 15 games for the Brewers. Even so, they have a +23 run differential which means they should be about >5 games over .500.

    Like I said, I don't see a better (or more complete) player than Ryan Braun the NL.
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  7. 09-02-12 08:52 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyBear View Post
    The bullpen has blown some 15 games for the Brewers. Even so, they have a +23 run differential which means they should be about >5 games over .500.

    Like I said, I don't see a better (or more complete) player than Ryan Braun the NL.
    That's right
    he's about to go back to back, he deserves it this year, if he keeps it up, batting 300 as well

    Last year, I thought Matt Kemp should of had it
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  8. 09-02-12 09:36 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inspirited View Post
    braun is a fraud
    But he's a damn good fraud
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  9. 09-02-12 09:43 PM #9
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    sometimes, girls get their feelings hurt when somebody uses ped's
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  10. 09-03-12 07:07 AM #10
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    Dawson won MVP in 1987 on the last place Cubs. Brewers are creeping to .500, and Braun's #s can't be denied. MVP back to back for the Hebrew Hammer.
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  11. 09-03-12 09:21 AM #11
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    yeah it's silly how people throw out crazy stuff like "brewers are one of the worst teams in baseball" when they have outscored their opponents big time


    watch them play
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  12. 09-03-12 10:05 AM #12
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    problem all year has been the bullpen: Axford, K-rod, Lowe, Para, Veras, etc...
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  13. 09-03-12 11:13 AM #13
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    rumor has it that he leads the league in giving most woman warts. he wasn't using peds. Someone with ties to milw. said he flunked the test because of the cream he uses for outbreaks. lets just say a birdie says so! or at least this guys sister!
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  14. 09-03-12 11:19 AM #14
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    a-roid won the mvp with last place rangers.

    braun can win if he surrenders last years mvp to rightful winner kemp.
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  15. 09-03-12 12:29 PM #15
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    give it to Adam LaRoche, he would of hit 40 homers this year if he played in the gay ballparks Braun did.
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  16. 09-18-12 10:39 PM #16
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    Bump.

    Could (and should) be a repeat.
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  17. 09-18-12 10:59 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by wtt0315 View Post
    Need to have a decent team to be mvp and they are one of the worst in mlb

    I didn't realize 2.5 games outta wildcard was worst in the MLB.

    Braun for MVP!
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  18. 09-19-12 03:16 AM #18
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    Sorry no disrespect to Braun but Posey is MVP. There is more to this beautiful game than offensive statistics in a vacuum.
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  19. 09-19-12 05:23 AM #19
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    Braun should win but they will fuk him

    He proved everyone wrong
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  20. 09-19-12 06:07 AM #20
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    dont see any chance of him getting it just cause of last year, i would say zero chance
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  21. 09-19-12 08:58 AM #21
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    Who the fuk is Andre Dawson??
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  22. 09-19-12 09:06 AM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by chico2663 View Post
    rumor has it that he leads the league in giving most woman warts. he wasn't using peds. Someone with ties to milw. said he flunked the test because of the cream he uses for outbreaks. lets just say a birdie says so! or at least this guys sister!
    If this is true, then Braun should make this story public. Because as it stands, he is in most fans' opinion, a PED user. I would never support a cheater for MVP. Baseball gave enough awards to the likes of Bonds and Clemens. Braun is stained.
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    Whether Braun did it or not last year, which I don't think he did, there is no way in hell he would even come close to any ped's this year. With that being said, he has produced better numbers than last year. He is miles ahead of everyone else this year and on a team in the playoff chase. If he doesn't win MVP this year the system is tainted.
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  24. 09-19-12 10:19 AM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by speaker View Post
    If this is true, then Braun should make this story public. Because as it stands, he is in most fans' opinion, a PED user. I would never support a cheater for MVP. Baseball gave enough awards to the likes of Bonds and Clemens. Braun is stained.
    So you would stand up and announce to the world you have herpes just like that? Yeah im sure that'd be fun. He's clean, he knows it, this year proves it.
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  25. 09-19-12 10:26 AM #25
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    Posey is probably my favorite player in the game right now, but I still think Braun should get it. Punishing a player for the performance of the rest of his team doesn't make sense. Is there anyone who really thinks that Felix or Greinke didn't deserve their Cy Youngs just because the lineup behind them couldn't hit?
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  26. 09-19-12 10:40 AM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdegk15 View Post
    Whether Braun did it or not last year, which I don't think he did, there is no way in hell he would even come close to any ped's this year. With that being said, he has produced better numbers than last year. He is miles ahead of everyone else this year and on a team in the playoff chase. If he doesn't win MVP this year the system is tainted.
    Exactly. If that whole drug test fiasco hadn't taken place everyone would be saying how awesome it is that this guy is going to win the MVP back-to-back. He's BETTER than last year and he won it last year. Enough said...
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  27. 09-19-12 12:09 PM #27
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    What the heck is the difference???Your NL batting champ is suspended for what????? Oh yeah, PED's and he didn't WIN an appeal. Braun is the MVP.
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  28. 09-19-12 12:28 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by meader99 View Post
    What the heck is the difference???Your NL batting champ is suspended for what????? Oh yeah, PED's and he didn't WIN an appeal. Braun is the MVP.

    Cheers brotha..
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