1. 08-30-12 01:26 PM #1
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    Everyone and their mother is on Washington State tonight



    Wow this line has gone from -14 to -11.5 in the span of a few days

    I do not get the Washington State angle at all

    Looks like people are 1.) Overvaluing Mike Leach 2.) Overvaluing Washington State since they are a Pac 12 team 3.) Underestimating the talent level of this BYU team 4.) Don't understand how tough of an environment Lavell Edwards Stadium is to play at

    Tons and tons of value on -11.5, thought there was value at -14.
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  2. 08-30-12 01:29 PM #2
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    my mother has been gone for 12 years now, but if she was alive she would've pounded byu since she was a homer for colorado/utah teams
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  3. 08-30-12 01:29 PM #3
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    yeah interesting line and game

    i'm probably staying off but yeah the BYU team is good, better defense than theyve had in a long time, good skills guys and a QB with a winning disposition

    I'm staying off though
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  4. 08-30-12 01:34 PM #4
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    Think 1 and 2 for sure. Went to schol at WSU but can't bet on them.
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  5. 08-30-12 01:42 PM #5
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    A TD game for BYU...
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  6. 08-30-12 01:49 PM #6
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    those mormons can play some ball.
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  7. 08-30-12 01:52 PM #7
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    Also I still don't know what people are expecting to see defensively for Washington State... their defense sucks, BYU is going to pick them apart.
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  8. 08-30-12 01:55 PM #8
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    Went to WSU too. The weaker pac 12 teams are absolutely nightmarish on the road and WSU has always been one of them. Personally, I thought the total was too high for this game and that it's more likely that teams will play conservatively with a lead and not let this turn into a shootout. Line could be adjusting for a BYU lead but conservative managment, instead of how they might play later in the season...dunno though.
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  9. 08-30-12 01:55 PM #9
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    Leech hasn't had time to recruit his kids into the program. State will be improved , but nowhere near good enough to hang with the mormans. 45- 20 mormans
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  10. 08-30-12 02:04 PM #10
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    also, I don't know what it is about washington state, but these players lack of the mental toughness and confidence to play in challenging environments. They remind me more of a MLS team, which shows heart and effort at home, while getting their tails bashed on the road.
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  11. 08-30-12 02:06 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    also, I don't know what it is about washington state, but these players lack of the mental toughness and confidence to play in challenging environments. They remind me more of a MLS team, which shows heart and effort at home, while getting their tails bashed on the road.
    Couldnt agree more
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  12. 08-30-12 02:10 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    also, I don't know what it is about washington state, but these players lack of the mental toughness and confidence to play in challenging environments. They remind me more of a MLS team, which shows heart and effort at home, while getting their tails bashed on the road.
    great point

    6 of their 8 losses last year were by 15+
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  13. 08-30-12 04:11 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeDime View Post
    yeah interesting line and game

    i'm probably staying off but yeah the BYU team is good, better defense than theyve had in a long time, good skills guys and a QB with a winning disposition

    I'm staying off though
    did you talk yourself into playing it yet?

    :shanty:
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  14. 08-30-12 04:29 PM #14
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    My mom just asked me if she could get a nick on them, wtf??
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