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    Should we pound A&M before they go to 9?

    I can't remember a more jacked up program from spring to summer as this one. I think they are going to run roughshod over an always dangerous La tech team. A&M QB is going to turn heads.

    While we are in the great state of texas I keep watching for the O/U for Tex vs Wy. I think that's a hard one for the books to put up. That Longhorn defense is on par with a top SEC defense. If that O/U wonders up above 45ish could be a banger.

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    You are wrong

    A&M went 6-6 last year, and lost 2 playmakers from that average team.

    They are installing a new system, and their QB is a bonehead who has already had off the field issues.

    Their first game is a Thursday night affair in Shreveport, against a criminally under rated Louisiana Tech team. This LA Tech team is the real deal, should have beat TCU in the Poinsettia Bowl last year, returns pretty much everyone from that team.

    Meanwhile A&M like I said, still breaking in new parts, and are more concerned with establishing themselves in the SEC than dealing with a paltry WAC team, so A&M is more focused on Florida the next week than Louisiana Tech, I think A&M is in for a real surprise, Louisiana Tech won't be the pushover or tune up they are thinking they will get.

    It is at a neutral site and the crowd should be slightly partisan toward A&M, but Louisiana Tech is going to be more fired up than A&M, since Louisiana Tech is a shoe in to win the WAC so they have bigger fish to fry, while A&M like I said is more focused on the SEC.

    A&M still won't play defense, and LA Tech's offense is good enough to make them pay.

    Lousiana Tech will cover here, and perhaps win outright.

    A&M is not a good team, they sucked last year, they will suck this year.

    As far as the Wyoming/Texas game, under should be good, Wyoming's offense won't be able to move the ball against Texas, though Brett Smith Wyoming QB is pretty good, but Wyoming doesn't have the talent at the skill positions. On the other side of the ball, Texas has no offense either, both of the QBs they will use suck, so its going to be a low scoring ugly affair, along the lines of 24-7 Texas win. I like Wyoming to cover here, +29.5 is a steal, its one of the easiest picks of Week 1, no way will Texas score enough to cover. Texas will just run the ball all game, ball control, run the clock, not light up the scoreboard.
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    yes, please keep pounding a&m past 10 and beyond

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoyd androyd View Post
    yes, please keep pounding a&m past 10 and beyond
    I have Louisiana Tech locked in at +7.5, but I have seen the line drop to +6.5 at some places, sharps are moving the line down right now, but public has not gotten involved yet, so if boneheads and the public keep pounding A&M because of the sole reason A&M is an SEC team and Louisiana Tech is a WAC team, more for me, would be nice to grab Louisiana Tech at double digits.

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    LA Tech is returning a bunch of starters that just won their conference championship last year and Phil Steele says this will be the HCs best team hes had since being at LA Tech...and what frogs said about A&M rebuilding. will be on LA Tech here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogsrangers View Post
    You are wrong

    A&M went 6-6 last year, and lost 2 playmakers from that average team.

    They are installing a new system, and their QB is a bonehead who has already had off the field issues.



    Their first game is a Thursday night affair in Shreveport, against a criminally under rated Louisiana Tech team. This LA Tech team is the real deal, should have beat TCU in the Poinsettia Bowl last year, returns pretty much everyone from that team.

    Meanwhile A&M like I said, still breaking in new parts, and are more concerned with establishing themselves in the SEC than dealing with a paltry WAC team, so A&M is more focused on Florida the next week than Louisiana Tech, I think A&M is in for a real surprise, Louisiana Tech won't be the pushover or tune up they are thinking they will get.

    It is at a neutral site and the crowd should be slightly partisan toward A&M, but Louisiana Tech is going to be more fired up than A&M, since Louisiana Tech is a shoe in to win the WAC so they have bigger fish to fry, while A&M like I said is more focused on the SEC.

    A&M still won't play defense, and LA Tech's offense is good enough to make them pay.

    Lousiana Tech will cover here, and perhaps win outright.

    A&M is not a good team, they sucked last year, they will suck this year.

    As far as the Wyoming/Texas game, under should be good, Wyoming's offense won't be able to move the ball against Texas, though Brett Smith Wyoming QB is pretty good, but Wyoming doesn't have the talent at the skill positions. On the other side of the ball, Texas has no offense either, both of the QBs they will use suck, so its going to be a low scoring ugly affair, along the lines of 24-7 Texas win. I like Wyoming to cover here, +29.5 is a steal, its one of the easiest picks of Week 1, no way will Texas score enough to cover. Texas will just run the ball all game, ball control, run the clock, not light up the scoreboard.
    they were a top 15 team on paper last year though underachieved they were favored most of the year, and my magazine says LA Tech does not return a lot of starters?

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    Pass.


    What sport?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoo youk View Post
    LA Tech is returning a bunch of starters that just won their conference championship last year and Phil Steele says this will be the HCs best team hes had since being at LA Tech...and what frogs said about A&M rebuilding. will be on LA Tech here.
    Pretty much

    Public will look at this and see an SEC team vs. WAC team and automatically jump on the SEC team, but there is a reason the line is at 6.5 right now.

    I watched Louisana Tech outplay TCU in the Poinsettia Bowl last year, only to lose in the end, and I think Texas A&M is on the same level as that TCU team, maybe a bit worse, and Louisiana Tech will be better and fired up, Louisiana Tech picking up where they left off last season while A&M is somewhat having to start a new page.

    Plus Louisana Tech should have beaten Kevin Sumlin last year, but lost, LA Tech knows Sumlin's system

    A&M will still have a shit defense, that won't change from last year. Like I said A&M is in for a rude awakening if they think this game is a tune up or prep game for Florida the next week.

    LA Tech is my sleeper BCS buster team since they have 3 winnable non conference games against BCS conference teams, A&M/Illinois/Virginia, I could easily see this team winning all 3 of those games, and then winning the shitty WAC.

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    Great write up frogs!!

    I think you left out the parts where they should have beaten Okla St and lost a couple at the end(escapes me but top competition) played a very difficult schedule.

    Also yea that QB threw what 5 picks in the game he was benched? But that kid can play...give the devil his due. He has game he was just young and vince young smart.

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    John give us a special line in the SBR sportsbook!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    they were a top 15 team on paper last year though underachieved they were favored most of the year, and my magazine says LA Tech does not return a lot of starters?
    The only area Louisiana Tech is thin at is defensive end, which I don't think will matter that much in this game since A&M will be pass happy. The linebackers and defensive backfield are back, including a great safety tandem of Chad Boyd and Jamel Johnson

    Offensively they have pretty much everyone back, including Colby Cameron, solid QB, and great receiver Quinton Patton and running back stable that is good. And the offensive line is solid as well, 3 NFL level prospects on that line

    But the X-Factor, I think, is special teams, they have the best punter in the country Ryan Allen, which should help them in field position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Great write up frogs!!

    I think you left out the parts where they should have beaten Okla St and lost a couple at the end(escapes me but top competition) played a very difficult schedule.

    Also yea that QB threw what 5 picks in the game he was benched? But that kid can play...give the devil his due. He has game he was just young and vince young smart.
    A&M couldn't finish games last year, in part because of how they practiced, they practice NFL style practices which leads to a lack of conditioning and 4th quarter meltdowns. Defense and conditioning led to their downfall

    And Kevin Sumlin's system isn't really built to finish teams off either, look at how many times Houston got out to big leads and choked it away, these pass happy offenses like June Jones and Kevin Sumlin are terrible at finishing teams off, since there is no emphasis on running the ball, its hard to run out the clock, and the 3 and outs and fast pace means the defense gets no chance to rest and is on the field too much, leading to more 4th quarter disaster.

    Look at all the solid defenses over the past few years, such as Alabama, TCU, etc, these defenes are good because their offenses are ball control time of possession chewing offenses, which allows the defense to be off the field a lot and be able to go 100% when they are actually on the field, instead of being off the field for 1 minute while the offense does a quick 3 and out and having to go back out still winded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawley View Post
    John give us a special line in the SBR sportsbook!
    Good idea.

    Frogs how about that UT Wy game? See any scoring in that one?

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    John, are you what the moguls in the industry refer to as a "sharp"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Good idea.

    Frogs how about that UT Wy game? See any scoring in that one?
    Not really, we have seen this before, Wyoming and Texas have met in 2009/2010, while Wyoming was leading at halftime in 2009 and 2010, they scored off of special teams and defense, where their offense just couldn't move the ball so Texas eventually pulled away in the 2nd half

    But this year is a bit different, Wyoming will have a better team than in 2009/2010, while Texas will have a worse team(at least offensively). Wyoming has a good QB, but the talent at skill positions just isn't there, so they will struggle to move the ball against that good Texas Defense, meanwhile, Texas has problems at QB and offensively as well, they can't throw the ball, both QBs suck. So Texas will probably just run the ball all game, good idea because Wyoming's only shot to win here is to score on defense and force turnovers, something that can be done if Texas gets pass happy, but if Texas keeps the ball on the ground, they will grind out a low scoring win.

    Wyoming's defense is OK, good enough to keep things from getting out of hand, but offensively they will look bad out there. Brett Smith can't do it alone

    Texas will just be content with winning without style here, no need to impress anyone, its more like a tuneup game for them, so expect a lot of Malcolm Brown running the ball all game, little passing.

    I expect a somewhat close game at the half, like 14-3 at halftime, and a final score around 27-10 or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogsrangers View Post
    Not really, we have seen this before, Wyoming and Texas have met in 2009/2010, while Wyoming was leading at halftime in 2009 and 2010, they scored off of special teams and defense, where their offense just couldn't move the ball so Texas eventually pulled away in the 2nd half

    But this year is a bit different, Wyoming will have a better team than in 2009/2010, while Texas will have a worse team(at least offensively). Wyoming has a good QB, but the talent at skill positions just isn't there, so they will struggle to move the ball against that good Texas Defense, meanwhile, Texas has problems at QB and offensively as well, they can't throw the ball, both QBs suck. So Texas will probably just run the ball all game, good idea because Wyoming's only shot to win here is to score on defense and force turnovers, something that can be done if Texas gets pass happy, but if Texas keeps the ball on the ground, they will grind out a low scoring win.

    Wyoming's defense is OK, good enough to keep things from getting out of hand, but offensively they will look bad out there. Brett Smith can't do it alone

    Texas will just be content with winning without style here, no need to impress anyone, its more like a tuneup game for them, so expect a lot of Malcolm Brown running the ball all game, little passing.

    I expect a somewhat close game at the half, like 14-3 at halftime, and a final score around 27-10 or something like that.
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    WOW texas a&m now -9 1/2 +100 in the sbr sportsbook

    i am definitely on the other side of that, even though 9 is not a key number it goes through 8 too

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Fukk dude, you're hired. Be in Costa Rica at 8am(suit and tie) and I'll show you your desk!
    keep in mind frogsrangers won't be able to work without screaming "KING KONG WHOOP ASS" - that might be distracting to other employees

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Fukk dude, you're hired. Be in Costa Rica at 8am(suit and tie) and I'll show you your desk!
    LMAO, don't have a passport

    If I were older, I'd actually consider doing something like that, but it would conflict with my short term plans....

    Now you can see why my coaches always asked me questions about stuff like this, I knew more than my coaches did on many subjects

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    frost will you bet a poop slap that a&m will win 7+

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    frogs great cknclusion on why a m couldnt finish off games never thought of that but makes plenty of sense

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    conclusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogsrangers View Post
    I have Louisiana Tech locked in at +7.5, but I have seen the line drop to +6.5 at some places, sharps are moving the line down right now, but public has not gotten involved yet, so if boneheads and the public keep pounding A&M because of the sole reason A&M is an SEC team and Louisiana Tech is a WAC team, more for me, would be nice to grab Louisiana Tech at double digits.
    haven't seen it dip below 7, where are you seeing this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoo youk View Post
    frogs great cknclusion on why a m couldnt finish off games never thought of that but makes plenty of sense
    I don't get why coaches do NFL style practices in college... its ridiculous, sets the team up for failure

    I know June Jones at SMU is a coach who does NFL style practices, and it has cost his team some games, despite SMU being respectable the past 3 seasons

    Mike Sherman was another

    For those who don't know... NFL style practices are practices where only the 1st team gets a large majority of the reps, and the 2nd team only gets some token reps, there is a scout team, but they are not allowed to make contact, they just kind of stand there and move in the direction they are told, but can't engage in contact or try to make a play. I'd say its more of a walkthrough than a practice

    It's basically a light pillowfight practice set up to avoid contact, hard hitting, and injuries, and from getting tired

    Meanwhile at TCU, not going into much detail, but our practices we had scout teams that were allowed to hit hard and hit back, they were very physical and very tough practices, 1st, 2nd and 3rd teams all got equal reps, there were some periods in practice where our 1 offense went against our 1 defense and was full contact and tackling to the ground, lots of contact and running. And we were successful

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoyd androyd View Post
    haven't seen it dip below 7, where are you seeing this?
    Cantor had it at +6.5 last time I checked

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    frogs, I will be tailing your left nut this year on college foots lol

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    Taking the points and LA TECH all day!! Can't wait

    Texas A & I is ALWAYS over rated, can't remember when they actually had a good football team. Yes I said A & I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Taking the points and LA TECH all day!! Can't wait

    Texas A & I is ALWAYS over rated, can't remember when they actually had a good football team. Yes I said A & I
    Having lived in Texas my whole life, it seems half of my high school went to A&M.

    They are the biggest homers you will ever meet

    They could go 0-12 and they would all still think they have a great football team

    The year we went to the Rose Bowl, all my A&M buddies critcized us saying we would get killed in the Big 12, how A&M was such a better team than we were, and how they would kill us if we played them. Fair points, but it wasn't based in reality, and I think they were just jealous. We only had 1 common opponent that year, Baylor, and we killed Baylor while they squeaked by.

    Also the delusional Texas Tech fans who echoed the same comments, despite the fact that they pulled out of a game against us that year because they were too afraid to play us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Taking the points and LA TECH all day!! Can't wait

    Texas A & I is ALWAYS over rated, can't remember when they actually had a good football team. Yes I said A & I
    And the game has now officially been mushed and unplayable

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoo youk View Post
    frogs great cknclusion on why a m couldnt finish off games never thought of that but makes plenty of sense
    Not me. This team has average talent but plays good. They eventually get run down over 4 qtrs by top 10 teams. La Tech is not a top 10 team, they won't be able to run this team down in a neutral site opener. This is not a game AmM is looking past. This is their first year in the SEC. This is not a look-past non conf game for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Not me. This team has average talent but plays good. They eventually get run down over 4 qtrs by top 10 teams. La Tech is not a top 10 team, they won't be able to run this team down in a neutral site opener. This is not a game AmM is looking past. This is their first year in the SEC. This is not a look-past non conf game for them.
    I'd agree with you if they didn't have Florida in the next week

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    Keep in mind froggy they outgained Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Okla St all narrow losses except Oklahoma on the road. I'm going to tell ya they will get over 500 yards, probably over 600. A bet against AnM only makes sense if you think the turnover prone QB will keep La Tech in the game. He's a year older amd is not facing a monster pressure in this one. I think you got the wrong side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogsrangers View Post

    I have Louisiana Tech locked in at +7.5, but I have seen the line drop to +6.5 at some places, sharps are moving the line down right now, but public has not gotten involved yet, so if boneheads and the public keep pounding A&M because of the sole reason A&M is an SEC team and Louisiana Tech is a WAC team, more for me, would be nice to grab Louisiana Tech at double digits.
    This public/sharp paranoia is going to drive you crazy and leave you busted out in NCAAF. You're not even being honest or just delusional.

    Line hasn't been 6.5 practically anywhere in over 2 weeks Vegas and offshore. 5Dimes and LVH have never even been 6.5 at any point, but right "sharps moved the line down", in schizo land.

    The line opened 6.5 most places, up to 7.5/8. Keep spinning that fact however you like. Vegas tourist betting $12 doesn't make that move. Most of the real "public" isn't even betting these games until next week.

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    If Frog and John can't agree on this. I'M OUT!

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