🗣️ MNF Lions @ Packers *IN-GAME DISCUSSION* 🗣️

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  • QuantumLeap
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    • 08-22-08
    • 6878

    #351
    Originally posted by jjgold
    Packer still really are not good it’s a miss leading record but they will take the win
    That only makes for better fades against the Packers in the future. The idiots will see the good Packer record and will bet them when the other side is a better bet.
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    • Fred The Hammer
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      • 08-13-13
      • 11579

      #352
      Down 22-20.....can't make it a 7 point game? Not even these refs would let you get from 20 to 29 in one possession. Although....maybe they would?
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      • asiagambler
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        • 07-23-17
        • 6827

        #353
        Originally posted by U2.5
        You're insane. Absolutely insane. You always take the lead no matter what. That was 100% a.lead. you're fukin batshit insane.
        It's all analytics

        Get with the times!
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        • shocka1212
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-06-12
          • 16788

          #354
          Ok,.... just saw the replay.. on the same play they called illegal hands to the face (the 2nd one), the packers right tackle literally yanked the DE by the facemark directly in front of the ref....
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          • Outsider626
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-10-16
            • 855

            #355
            Let's be honest refs gave bs touchdown to Lions also. So fair game.
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            • Pickem2win
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 09-16-11
              • 978

              #356
              Rigged!!! No reason not to score that TD except to blow up the -3.5 and the overs.
              I teased the packers and the over so I hit but sheesh.
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              • Fred The Hammer
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                • 08-13-13
                • 11579

                #357
                Originally posted by U2.5
                You're insane. Absolutely insane. You always take the lead no matter what. That was 100% a.lead. you're fukin batshit insane.
                Incorrect brother. Sorry u lost on GB -3.5 4 or whatever. Lions would've had the ball with 1:30 left and down either 4 or 6. With all the PIs and nonsense from the refs....or a deep kickoff return. A fg from the 2 is 99% atleast
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                • Kermit
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                  • 09-27-10
                  • 32555

                  #358
                  Originally posted by Outsider626
                  Let's be honest refs gave bs touchdown to Lions also. So fair game.
                  No they didn't.
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                  • gummo
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                    • 09-04-06
                    • 6297

                    #359
                    This game will result in rule changes
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                    • Fred The Hammer
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                      • 08-13-13
                      • 11579

                      #360
                      Maybe Detroit should've challenged for PI on that one bomb. It was blatant as hell.
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                      • Da Manster!
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-13-07
                        • 17720

                        #361
                        Originally posted by Pickem2win
                        Rigged!!! No reason not to score that TD except to blow up the -3.5 and the overs.
                        I teased the packers and the over so I hit but sheesh.
                        it's not rigged...players and refs don't give a shit about the point spread...generally speaking of'course...all they care about is winning...for the player to take a knee instead of scoring a TD was the right move...you take the clock down to 0:00 and kick the game winning FG.
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                        • deadphish
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-24-11
                          • 2587

                          #362
                          Originally posted by asiagambler
                          They were down 2 so a TD + 2pt would only give them a 6 point lead

                          Absolutely the correct decision to go down. Crosby is close to 99% from there
                          my bad...my math was off. i still think you take the points.
                          better yet, if you see that the D was obviously instructed to not tackle the runner, run it to the sideline once you got it near the goal line and stand there and drain clock for as long as you can
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                          • jts1207
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                            • 12-15-16
                            • 8011

                            #363
                            Originally posted by Fred The Hammer
                            Maybe Detroit should've challenged for PI on that one bomb. It was blatant as hell.
                            They aren't overturning those. Prove the other night
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                            • U2.5
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-21-14
                              • 1953

                              #364
                              Originally posted by asiagambler
                              It's all analytics

                              Get with the times!
                              It's rigged sometimes. This is one of those games that you just have to realize that. Congrats for getting lucky and being on the right side of the higher power. That is 99 outta 100 a td
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                              • Fred The Hammer
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                                • 08-13-13
                                • 11579

                                #365
                                GB did it in the SB vs Denver back with Elway. They let Denver score so Favre could get the ball back. It was tied at the time. Denver scored the TD and held on
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                                • asiagambler
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-23-17
                                  • 6827

                                  #366
                                  Originally posted by U2.5
                                  It's rigged sometimes. This is one of those games that you just have to realize that. Congrats for getting lucky and being on the right side of the higher power. That is 99 outta 100 a td
                                  I had no bet on this game
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                                  • Outsider626
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-10-16
                                    • 855

                                    #367
                                    Originally posted by Pickem2win
                                    Rigged!!! No reason not to score that TD except to blow up the -3.5 and the overs.
                                    I teased the packers and the over so I hit but sheesh.
                                    Nope. Pacers played it smart. If they scored that TD than Lions would have a minute left to go for game winning touchdown. That's why they decided to go for a FG. It's automatic winner. Why risk it?
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                                    • Fred The Hammer
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                                      • 08-13-13
                                      • 11579

                                      #368
                                      Originally posted by jts1207
                                      They aren't overturning those. Prove the other night
                                      I realize that, but wouldn't that have ended the game if they did? Bottom line Detroit got raped, but they only scored 1 td. They couldn't keep the ball in the 2nd half at all.
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                                      • asiagambler
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-23-17
                                        • 6827

                                        #369
                                        Originally posted by Fred The Hammer
                                        GB did it in the SB vs Denver back with Elway. They let Denver score so Favre could get the ball back. It was tied at the time. Denver scored the TD and held on
                                        Yeah the whole idea itself isn't even really new. I remember Maurice Jones Drew did this 10 years ago or so
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                                        • shocka1212
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                                          • 10-06-12
                                          • 16788

                                          #370
                                          lets be real though.. if this was a 1pm kickoff, detroit wins by 10. solid cover though
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                                          • Fred The Hammer
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                                            • 08-13-13
                                            • 11579

                                            #371
                                            Ref is scared of black people deep in his brain. Black guy with his hand up and the white guys head is snapped back. It has to be a penalty. Black guy walks by a car in the burbs and the white lady nervously locks her car. Same thing
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                                            • JaimeMiro
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                                              • 03-14-17
                                              • 2515

                                              #372
                                              Over should have hit; lions failing to convert just shy of the goal line was huge. Also Packers idiot who slipped in the endzone.
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                                              • QuantumLeap
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 08-22-08
                                                • 6878

                                                #373
                                                Originally posted by Outsider626
                                                Nope. Pacers played it smart. If they scored that TD than Lions would have a minute left to go for game winning touchdown. That's why they decided to go for a FG. It's automatic winner. Why risk it?
                                                Like I mentioned to asiagambler earlier in this thread, you have to ask why the Lions were giving up that TD. They would only do it if it was to their advantage.

                                                The opposite must also be true. If the Lions give up the TD to their advantage than it's to Green Bay's advantage to go down short of the end zone.

                                                It's a higher percentage for GB to try a field goal with 2 seconds left than it is to be up by 5 or 6 and give the Lions almost 2 minutes on the clock.
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                                                • asiagambler
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                                                  • 07-23-17
                                                  • 6827

                                                  #374
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                                                  • QuantumLeap
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                                                    • 08-22-08
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                                                    #375
                                                    Originally posted by JaimeMiro
                                                    Over should have hit; lions failing to convert just shy of the goal line was huge. Also Packers idiot who slipped in the endzone.
                                                    Don't forget Hockenson in the 1st half having a sure catch in the end zone and his left elbow hit knocking the ball out. Lions settled for a FG.

                                                    How many times has a tight end caught a ball going down and NOT protected the left arm from hitting potentially jarring the ball out?
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                                                    • Fred The Hammer
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                                                      • 08-13-13
                                                      • 11579

                                                      #376
                                                      Originally posted by QuantumLeap
                                                      Don't forget Hockenson in the 1st half having a sure catch in the end zone and his left elbow hit knocking the ball out. Lions settled for a FG.

                                                      How many times has a tight end caught a ball going down and NOT protected the left arm from hitting potentially jarring the ball out?
                                                      Bottom line though....those bogus calls cost Detroit the game. These refs are too scared to disappoint the home crowd so they make some shit up
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                                                      • recon1
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-13-12
                                                        • 2579

                                                        #377
                                                        Buddy called me told me about the fix in Lambeau and I played it back. NFL just really doesn't even try to make it look suspect anymore. Booger was calling the league out and I'm sure ESPN will be sending Booger a memo in the morning.
                                                        So, majority of bettors on Pack -3.5 doesn't cover, minority Lions +3.5 cash and what I just looked up had a hefty amount on Lions getting a lot of juice +170 S.O.L. Now, I think about the two phantom calls (Hands to face) that never happened and it all makes sense.
                                                        I think it is actually brewed to a science flags and controlling outcomes.
                                                        Oh well, my two cents.
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                                                        • Fred The Hammer
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                                                          • 08-13-13
                                                          • 11579

                                                          #378
                                                          Originally posted by QuantumLeap
                                                          Don't forget Hockenson in the 1st half having a sure catch in the end zone and his left elbow hit knocking the ball out. Lions settled for a FG.

                                                          How many times has a tight end caught a ball going down and NOT protected the left arm from hitting potentially jarring the ball out?

                                                          Don't forget Detroit also had 12 men on the field during a fg which then turned into a TD. Detroit blew it as well, but those calls were bs and I have a huge parlay with GB ML on it
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                                                          • QuantumLeap
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                                                            • 08-22-08
                                                            • 6878

                                                            #379
                                                            Originally posted by asiagambler
                                                            I'll never forget about 15 years ago I had the under in an Arizona State game. They were up by 1 and had the ball. The other team let the runner have a free run to the end zone but he went down after he got the 1st down. They ran out the clock and won the game. The under came through for me.

                                                            If the RB had gone in for the easy TD and they kicked the extra point they would be up by 8 which would still give a chance to the team that was trailing.

                                                            I saw this same scenario a couple weeks ago when a team was up by 1 and the other team let them score and they took the bait. Dumb. Just take a knee after getting the first down in that case.
                                                            Last edited by QuantumLeap; 10-15-19, 09:15 PM.
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                                                            • Mase of Base
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-24-12
                                                              • 3622

                                                              #380
                                                              Originally posted by QuantumLeap
                                                              I'll never forget about 15 years ago I had the over in an Arizona State game. They were up by 1 and had the ball. The other team let the runner have a free run to the end zone but he went down after he got the 1st down. They ran out the clock and won the game. The under came through for me.

                                                              If the RB had gone in for the easy TD and they kicked the extra point they would be up by 8 which would still give a chance to the team that was trailing.

                                                              I saw this same scenario a couple weeks ago when a team was up by 1 and the other team let them score and they took the bait. Dumb. Just take a knee after getting the first down in that case.
                                                              You mentioned teams that were winning big difference. I still think going down is the right play but it'll happen one day where the kick misses or is blocked.
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                                                              • JayDr3am
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                                                                • 05-06-14
                                                                • 18260

                                                                #381
                                                                oddmakers are on point its actually ridiculous
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                                                                • Fred The Hammer
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                                                                  • 08-13-13
                                                                  • 11579

                                                                  #382
                                                                  Originally posted by QuantumLeap
                                                                  I'll never forget about 15 years ago I had the over in an Arizona State game. They were up by 1 and had the ball. The other team let the runner have a free run to the end zone but he went down after he got the 1st down. They ran out the clock and won the game. The under came through for me.
                                                                  I saw this same scenario a couple weeks ago when a team was up by 1 and the other team let them score and they took the bait. Dumb. Just take a knee after getting the first down in that case.
                                                                  Hell on Saturday I had Arkansas +7 and +6 for almost $500. 24-20 Kentucky and they break off a big run with 2:20 left or something. I about shit my pants because Ark was leading and then atleast covering the whole game. They started off 13-0. Anyway they barely catch the guy at the 20 yard line with 2:20 left and Ark only has 1 timeout left. I'm trying to crunch the numbers....you can't run :45 per play like the nfl. So I'm thinking either they score the TD and beat me that way OR they just run into the line and there will be :15 sec left or something on 4th down and they're forced to kick and I get beat that way. I had alot more on +6

                                                                  MIRACLE FKN HAPPENS....QB burst threw the line and is going for the TD, but a guy dives and trips him at the last second around the 6. Ark burns their timeout, but they take some knees....game over.
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                                                                  • asiagambler
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-23-17
                                                                    • 6827

                                                                    #383
                                                                    Originally posted by QuantumLeap
                                                                    I'll never forget about 15 years ago I had the over in an Arizona State game. They were up by 1 and had the ball. The other team let the runner have a free run to the end zone but he went down after he got the 1st down. They ran out the clock and won the game. The under came through for me.

                                                                    If the RB had gone in for the easy TD and they kicked the extra point they would be up by 8 which would still give a chance to the team that was trailing.

                                                                    I saw this same scenario a couple weeks ago when a team was up by 1 and the other team let them score and they took the bait. Dumb. Just take a knee after getting the first down in that case.
                                                                    Yeah, these end of game situations should be fairly black and white but we're still not at the point where it's standard. I guess some coaches just can't ever justify letting the other team score. Definitely see it more in college
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                                                                    • thomorino
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                                                                      • 06-01-17
                                                                      • 45842

                                                                      #384
                                                                      This game should have gone over in the third quarter, both defenses we're bad. So many drives settled for field goals because of dropped passes.
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                                                                      • kidcudi92
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 12-14-11
                                                                        • 15434

                                                                        #385
                                                                        There should be 10 mf in a box for every game and review penalties on a common sense platform

                                                                        Not even review, just step in when there is horrible calls like tonight

                                                                        (FWIW I won my bet tonight lions 2h but this is beyond frustrating watching the nfl overall)
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