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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    Guys it's obviously a credit account given the 5 digit account number, so it is not a post-up account

    Secondly you need money to make money, so basically 90% of posts in this thread are square

    Some of you guys are fukkin clueless about what sharps are up to in this industry

    We have a winner.

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    On a September weekend there will be 5 soccer leagues plus MLB, NCAAF, and NFL all with 20-50k limits. Watch the thousands of line moves those leagues get and realize most of those are on max type bets. Obviously there are people/groups with millions there. Post up isn't very difficult outside the us with neteller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    If you have credit line from an offshore book, this can only mean one thing,

    you are a great PAYING customer..........
    Pinnacle pays affiliates on volume not losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    Pinnacle pays affiliates on volume not losses.
    Pay them on both, not just volume

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post


    If you have credit line from an offshore book, this can only mean one thing,

    you are a great PAYING customer..........



    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post

    Nope
    Ugh OK, a book is going to give unlimited credit (Weapon) to a successful player (Achilles heel to any book).....................

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    Mathy you got $500 in pinnacle??

    Most high volume players use credit

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Ugh OK, a book is going to give unlimited credit (Weapon) to a successful player (Achilles heel to any book).....................
    Actually these are exactly the players you'd rather give credit to


    Go play Dungeons and Dragons pal
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuckman View Post
    Pay them on both, not just volume

    I was only aware of volume, usually .3%

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post

    Actually these are exactly the players you'd rather give credit to


    Go play Dungeons and Dragons pal
    You're not a player if you're a partner...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post

    I was only aware of volume, usually .3%
    Default is volume but I think you can switch to loses.

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    I have trouble getting my local bookies to take my action and I'm small time but I'm a constant thorn in their side.....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post

    I was only aware of volume, usually .3%
    If that was the case every agent would just find the biggest sharps they could. There would be no reason to find the small/medium size squares out there. Pinny is not gonna pay out on strictly volume, agents would have zero risk and make money hands over feet, they need to find losers as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuckman View Post
    If that was the case every agent would just find the biggest sharps they could. There would be no reason to find the small/medium size squares out there. Pinny is not gonna pay out on strictly volume, agents would have zero risk and make money hands over feet, they need to find losers as well
    OK well online aff and agents are a bit of a different story

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    I have trouble getting my local bookies to take my action and I'm small time but I'm a constant thorn in their side.....................
    Your local bookie and Pinnacle

    Valid comparison
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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    OK well online aff and agents are a bit of a different story
    i thought we were talking credit side, not affiliate. Gotcha

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuckman View Post
    If that was the case every agent would just find the biggest sharps they could. There would be no reason to find the small/medium size squares out there. Pinny is not gonna pay out on strictly volume, agents would have zero risk and make money hands over feet, they need to find losers as well
    Every agent does not get to work for pinnacle, and those said sharps most likely already have their accounts.
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    Good thread

    We learned today

    Rare at SBR
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    I have trouble getting my local bookies to take my action and I'm small time but I'm a constant thorn in their side.....................
    How can a guy with 13k posts be so clueless. Oh wait...that's most of the SBR universe.

    I order you to go read every single one of Fishhead's posts.

    Learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    Guys it's obviously a credit account given the 5 digit account number, so it is not a post-up account

    Secondly you need money to make money, so basically 90% of posts in this thread are square

    Some of you guys are fukkin clueless about what sharps are up to in this industry
    Your recent plays prove you are quite sharp :thumbsup:

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    Good luck on your 5 team parlay tonight York

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    Mathy...have no plays yet what do you like need a math dot com special!

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    Would Pinnacle take down a $500k bet?

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    I remember when I was at Millennium Sports, there were several VIP accounts with balances in the millions, they would usually call and make 100k bets, several of them, the biggest one I can remember was a 250k bet on the Dolphins on game 1 of '01 season, the rumor was that those accounts were from other bookmakers (book owners) and they would make those big bets to steam the line.

    OP's posted info seems real to me.

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    Fishead....

    Guy reads the entire thread, dishing out points, but doesn't comment. Stop trying to preserve the mystique you never had. You're a retired rag and bone man and now a renowned slot puller. Start posting. This is is your home.

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    Believe it or not, some people actually wager 100-150k on a game.

    Put it in perspective. If you were a $10 bettor, would a $100 balance be so outrageous?

    Pinnacle is very safe as of today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baskets View Post
    too long a read. can you highlight it?

    1. Do you think its possible, outside of the absolute best models in the world, to consistently beat pinnacle closing lines in the major sports?

      ) No, I don't. Our modeled bets all beat closing lines, and the fact that we win money is a causal relationship with that line, IMO. I know some people disagree, but I have seen no evidence to this (and you have idiots like Justin7 at SBR saying there is a huge "Taiwanese" effect that skews the results).

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    Ratio of square posts to sharp posts in thread = 10

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    Mathy how the overs treating you??

    Do you ever go under??

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    Can you really get a solid model done in 6-9 months and does it really take 30-70 hours a week to keep it successful?

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    u can have a sheet or volume if you know H personally- he has given 75% sheets out in the past-

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    i hope this is real.

    if pinnyy takes 60k on NBA games there are probably many users with atleast $1 000 000 onine

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    Do you grin when you win?

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    Doesn't look real to me...

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    sounds legit

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    I have $0.11 cents on Pinny... I should post it... What are the odds?

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