[1Vice George]

I agree that there are other options that are way more established than us. Let me ask you, if 1vice stops paying players for 2 or 3 months would you keep our rating at a D or would you downgrade us to an F?

So many great A rated books...why play with anything but the best and safest? As long as there are books we all agree are the best like 5Dimes, Bookmaker, Legends, Heritage, DSI, Pinny, ect why even waste time with a B or especially a D rated book?

[Mikeyanks23]

I agree that there are other options that are way more established than us. Let me ask you, if 1vice stops paying players for 2 or 3 months would you keep our rating at a D or would you downgrade us to an F?

[Smoke]

Gummy Bears!

[SBR_John]

I agree that there are other options that are way more established than us. Let me ask you, if 1vice stops paying players for 2 or 3 months would you keep our rating at a D or would you downgrade us to an F?

We would first try to determine if you vanished or what was up before changing your rating. Usually when a new book stops paying even for a little while its game over. The slightest run on the bank will bankrupt them so they pay while they can and vanish when they can't. They resurface the next year under a new name. So the answer is it depends on if you vanished and opened up under a new name.

[paranoyd androyd]

john, why does 1vice currently have a D rating?

[HedgeHog]

I agree that there are other options that are way more established than us. Let me ask you, if 1vice stops paying players for 2 or 3 months would you keep our rating at a D or would you downgrade us to an F?

Depends on what you did with that extra money. Use it to adveritise at SBR and you too can have a B+ rating.

[Mikeyanks23]

We would first try to determine if you vanished or what was up before changing your rating. Usually when a new book stops paying even for a little while its game over. The slightest run on the bank will bankrupt them so they pay while they can and vanish when they can't. They resurface the next year under a new name. So the answer is it depends on if you vanished and opened up under a new name.

[boatboatboat]

Depends on what you did with that extra money. Use it to adveritise at SBR and you too can have a B+ rating.

You dont know that for a fact HH.

Sure lots of folks on the WWW suspect that ratings at SBR are shaded away and towards books that do or don't hang banners here, but what real proof does anyone have that is true?

Does SBR have any high rated books with issues, that are rated high simply because they have banners here?

[cutter2225]

BOL has a great business structure...Slow pay or outright stiff customers to afford continued payments for high ratings from websites and continue have people sign up that pay attention only to the B+ rating and not the dozens of theft and slow pay threads.

[darkhat]

So many great A rated books...why play with anything but the best and safest? As long as there are books we all agree are the best like 5Dimes, Bookmaker, Legends, Heritage, DSI, Pinny, ect why even waste time with a B or especially a D rated book?

I agree.. only ones that aren't A I play at are RW and BI

[Mikeyanks23]

i dunno maybe im naive but my guess would be that SBR isnt going to recommend and new/semi new book to its players and let them advertise here. Until they have proven themselves all its going to do is make sbr look bad. Also a new book thats just looking to make some quick money and stiff everyone after a few months wouldnt bother to advertise with sbr. If they do advertise its gonna be at a lesser know site where they do end up paying for their rating.

Ive seen plenty of shit books on those affiliate sites. They promote the oddsmakers sportsbooks of the world and have no mention of 5dimes legends etc.

The risk would not be worth the reward for sbr to let just anyone advertise here. LET ME SAY IM NOT SAYING 1VICE is a scam operation. I think Griffin and George are trying to make a name for themselves and become successful in this business. That being said in 2 or 3 years from now if 1vice keeps up paying out as fast as they do and dont close up shop or stiff anyone, Im sure 1vice would be upgraded here. Im pretty sure Griffin and George know this too. Of course there are going to be a few hiccups with any new business but so far it seems they have tried to remedy those hiccups.

Maybe im naive and wrong but i strongly do agree with everything i said.

[HedgeHog]

You dont know that for a fact HH.

Sure lots of folks on the WWW suspect that ratings at SBR are shaded away and towards books that do or don't hang banners here, but what real proof does anyone have that is true?

Does SBR have any high rated books with issues, that are rated high simply because they have banners here?

Betonline remains at B+ despite scores of problems.

[boatboatboat]

Do you think that is because they pay mthly fees to SBR and have an affilate package in place so that SBR gets a cut from all players losses?

[HedgeHog]

Do you think that is because they pay mthly fees to SBR and have an affilate package in place so that SBR gets a cut from all players losses?

Why else would SBR keep BOL at B+ and on the recommended list despite all the complaints voiced in this forum? Their rating is bought and paid for...period.

[boatboatboat]

has anyone asked sbr?

hell go straight to the horse, only they know the real answer.

maybe SBR knows things the average Joe like you and i dont know?

[Mikeyanks23]

has anyone asked sbr?

hell go straight to the horse, only they know the real answer.

maybe SBR knows things the average Joe like you and i dont know?

SBR says its processing issues. Alot of books have had issues with processors in the past including 5dimes. Sbr says if it wasnt for the processor you wouldnt see all these complaints.
I agree with SBR in that. When 5dimes had their issues people were calling for their head. Once they got it fixed everything went back to normal. And everyone continues to praise them.

When BOL gets processors fixed and then there are problems Sbr says they would have no problem lowering them. I tend to believe this but most people dont. Its a wait and see now. If you trust SBR and BOL then deposit if you dont there are better options out there. 5dimes legends DSI Heritage etc

[JohnGalt2341]

Does 1Vice have Football player prop bets?

[durito]

1. 1vice pays out 10x faster than BOL
?

I got 8k neteller and a 9k cris transfer from bol this week. Each took one day. What timeframes does 1vice offer for these?

[Keith Richard]

BOL has taken over Betvegasvic and Sportsbetting.ag right? I know people are waiting forever to get paid when they use certain methods but some players say they pay fine with B to B and P to P. If they were really hurting financially would they be taking over these other sportsbooks?

[princecharles]

We would first try to determine if you vanished or what was up before changing your rating. Usually when a new book stops paying even for a little while its game over. The slightest run on the bank will bankrupt them so they pay while they can and vanish when they can't. They resurface the next year under a new name. So the answer is it depends on if you vanished and opened up under a new name.

This I why John is John.
He brilliantly says a lot without ever shouting.
Boys, you could learn a hell of a lot by reading between the lines of John's posts.

Just reread his posts in the 1Lice related threads, he tells you not just where to play, but more importantly where NOT to play.

That's all the help I'm doing on this.
John was cryptic for a reason, and I'll respect that.

[boatboatboat]

John said 18 mths ago EZ Street would close in 4 mths.

[nikossf]

If You Had A Fukkin Gun To Your Head...Betonline Or 1Vice ?

I would probably just pull the trigger.. Fukkkk it..

[thebookie]

We would first try to determine if you vanished or what was up before changing your rating. Usually when a new book stops paying even for a little while its game over. The slightest run on the bank will bankrupt them so they pay while they can and vanish when they can't. They resurface the next year under a new name. So the answer is it depends on if you vanished and opened up under a new name.

Posters need to keep in mind, that 1vice, is part of the RDG Corp, which is not new.. but been around since 2005, ( bet33, americasbookie)

That 7 years, of following the same business model, with very little problems.

[thebookie]

1vice is a joke.... there reps are completely unprofessional here and I guarentee they've never paid out a 10k balance.... im sure its only a matter of time before they start having payment problems, etc... no book can sustain with the bonus offers they offer. It's going to catch up with them eventually, and then we will all see how rare that \*\*\*\*\*\* gummy bears shows up here.

1vice, can afford to give a higher bonus, because they spend very little on advertising, and prefer to give the players the extra bonuses.

Whats the difference if they spend thousands a month on advertising, or give those thousands to current players, in the form on bonuses, and let the word on month, spread.

Also keep in mind other RDGcorp.com sportsbooks, have been following that business model since 2005, with very little problems, so what 1vice is doing is not new, or untested.

[jjgold]

BetVice might have 5k tops to their names

Betonline has way more

[dolson]

This thread is very interesting George and Robbie/Zack joined the party, both sides are exchanging blows, it wonder what the judges score card would look like even JJ added a good post, 1vice only has 5k

[cutter2225]

Processor issues are onething and admittingly happen to many books at some point but that fails to explain the often unfounded chip dumping accusations and attempted theft of players funds.

[Smoke]

gummy bears gimme a $100 freeplay10X rollover and i'll put 1vice in my avatar for a month

[1Vice George]

you`ll get banned if you do so. Anyways it would be a crime for you to remove your current avatar.

gummy bears gimme a $100 freeplay10X rollover and i'll put 1vice in my avatar for a month

[1Vice George]

Interesting topic: Forum owner suggests to players to avoid playing at a D rated book that does not pay him a penny. Other B + books can go and purchase big books like sportsbetting.ag(sportsbetting did around 3 to 4 mil $ in deposits per month a couple of years ago) but they dont have any money to pay their players. Stop the jokes.

This I why John is John.
He brilliantly says a lot without ever shouting.
Boys, you could learn a hell of a lot by reading between the lines of John's posts.

Just reread his posts in the 1Lice related threads, he tells you not just where to play, but more importantly where NOT to play.

That's all the help I'm doing on this.
John was cryptic for a reason, and I'll respect that.

[Smoke]

you`ll get banned if you do so. Anyways it would be a crime for you to remove your current avatar.

ok gummy yea then bad idea gummy thanks gummy

[BrianLaverty]

1vice, can afford to give a higher bonus, because they spend very little on advertising, and prefer to give the players the extra bonuses.

Whats the difference if they spend thousands a month on advertising, or give those thousands to current players, in the form on bonuses, and let the word on month, spread.

Also keep in mind other RDGcorp.com sportsbooks, have been following that business model since 2005, with very little problems, so what 1vice is doing is not new, or untested.

very little problems? Lol...apex problems were very little? Gtfo... they stiffed how many peoplr and how much $$$$

[billysink]

Posters need to keep in mind, that 1vice, is part of the RDG Corp, which is not new.. but been around since 2005, ( bet33, americasbookie)

That 7 years, of following the same business model, with very little problems.

Robbie M c mutherfukkin Fail

You gotta be fukkin kidding.

[BrianLaverty]

And gummy bears is the biggest joke in the industry... completely unprofessional.

[billysink]

Surprised Robbie M ain't dead and buried.


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