[Lo$t]

I arbitrated a BOL complaint involving a couple gentlemen and I am pleased to say it ended satisfactorily for all parties involved. BOL has my full support and +EV endorsement.

[The Kraken]

CWISSSSSSY!

[billysink]

Complaining about SBR here, not BOL

You are in way over your head

Cry me a fukkin river kid. Some fukkin genius in post 49 says BOL is an incompetent out. Same said genius plays there. Same idiot gets caught in a slow play for playing at said "incompetent book".

Sad said fukk points finger at his own site for not bailing him out of his own stupid mistake.


And I am in over my head.


If I was Johnny Walker I would piss down your throat. Just to shut your silly little ass up for a while.

[acl123]

Come on AC, you are way brighter than to even post that. You know way better than that pal.

I have been around this shit since the inception and before online wagering was ever concieved.

The only person you can ever trust in any of this is yourself. Do your own research, your own homework your own capping, your own everything. At the end of every endorsement of anything to do with this shit is an angle, an endorsement and a fukkin bunch of dirty money.

Billy i agree %100,but unfortunately not everyone knows this.I just dont want to see players get stiffed.

[mathdotcom]

Do you hate SBR making a buck Mathy?

It's not like they are a govt authority, they just advertise these guys.

And what's wrong with a B+ rating for a book you say yourself with authority is not going to stiff anyone?

You can do it honestly by actually advocating for players since that's what they claim to do. If there is ever a tradeoff between helping players or cashing a check, we now know which SBR will choose.

A rating of F is deserved for any book that stiffs. The range of D up to A+ measures other aspects of quality. B+ puts them just below the top offshore books -- I think a significant drop was warranted until BOL shapes up. I believe the B+ was fully warranted 2 years ago though, maybe even A-.

[jjgold]

Guys I do not like Mathy but the guy makes good points

I think we are underestimating him me included

Maybe this guy is a big timer

[mathdotcom]

Cry me a fukkin river kid. Some fukkin genius in post 49 says BOL is an incompetent out. Same said genius plays there. Same idiot gets caught in a slow play for playing at said "incompetent book".

Sad said fukk points finger at his own site for not bailing him out of his own stupid mistake.

And I am in over my head.


If I was Johnny Walker I would piss down your throat.

Yeah I really regret taking them for over 6 figures and now being slow paid low 5 figures. What a blunder on my part... what was I thinking... If only I could go back in time and do things differently. Woe is me.

[The Kraken]

You can do it honestly by actually advocating for players since that's what they claim to do. If there is ever a tradeoff between helping players or cashing a check, we now know which SBR will choose.

A rating of F is deserved for any book that stiffs. The range of D up to A+ measures other aspects of quality. B+ puts them just below the top offshore books -- I think a significant drop was warranted until BOL shapes up. I believe the B+ was fully warranted 2 years ago though, maybe even A-.

Losing players don't see the problem here Mathy. Issues they've never even had to consider.

[billysink]

Yeah I really regret taking them for over 6 figures and now being slow paid low 5 figures. What a blunder on my part... what was I thinking... If only I could go back in time and do things differently. Woe is me.

Yes it is a blunder on your part. You finally fukkin take responsibility for your own actions.

You wanna use your two bit bullshit slow pay to discredit this site. Who is paying you how much to do that.

Fukkin two bit hustle here.

Carry on.

[jjgold]

what a time for this happen

the bash is in a few weeks

[Inkwell77]

Yeah I really regret taking them for over 6 figures and now being slow paid low 5 figures. What a blunder on my part... what was I thinking... If only I could go back in time and do things differently. Woe is me.

lol this guy is hilarious.

1 you are probably scalping and you know the risks.

you are not getting the best number at bol over this many bets unless your units are huge and your bankroll is a million or so, and if you are betting at bol when there are better numbers at better books then....

maybe this guy is a big timer and $10,000 is 1% of his br....

I've more inclined to believe he's like his hero Fishhead and just makes shit up

[billysink]

Billy i agree %100,but unfortunately not everyone knows this.I just dont want to see players get stiffed.

Absolutely not AC. I don't want to see anyone in the community, Mathy or anyone else have to grind out a pay. We work hard for our money, anyone who is makes it knows what a fukkin hard road it is to be successful. Nothing in this business comes easy.

If anything is to be gained from this bullshit thread it should be just that. Be careful do your homework and know the landscape. there is a fukkin landmine at every fork in the road here.

[Br0nxer]

i hope all parties get paid except you

i hope you get fukkin stiffed kid

i take back this post mathy

i made it in the heat of the moment

i hope you get paid

would never want to see someone get stiffed

[Br0nxer]

what a time for this happen

the bash is in a few weeks

[wtt0315]

was rx the site that was sponser by ezystreet and sbr bashed because they didnt pay cory and they were angry at because they were just protecting their sponser? Sounds like they are getting a taste of their own medicine now,
This was how wsex fell and if i remember correctly sbr backed them a while too.

[The Kraken]

Is Lou still at lunch?

[mathdotcom]

you are probably scalping and you know the risks.

No. Good luck finding BOL scalps. And their bonus is a waste of time.

you are not getting the best number at bol over this many bets unless your units are huge and your bankroll is a million or so, and if you are betting at bol when there are better numbers at better books then....

I will not comment on my methods in this regard

[mathdotcom]

was rx the site that was sponser by ezystreet and sbr bashed because they didnt pay cory and they were angry at because they were just protecting their sponser? Sounds like they are getting a taste of their own medicine now,
This was how wsex fell and if i remember correctly sbr backed them a while too.

Exactly exactly exactly

Best post in thread

[billysink]

lol this guy is hilarious.

1 you are probably scalping and you know the risks.

you are not getting the best number at bol over this many bets unless your units are huge and your bankroll is a million or so, and if you are betting at bol when there are better numbers at better books then....

maybe this guy is a big timer and $10,000 is 1% of his br....

I've more inclined to believe he's like his hero Fishhead and just makes shit up

Yes the whole ruse is absolutely contradictory. Guy passes himself off as a fukkin sharp but racks up that kind of jack at a square lined book.

But that is not the point nor the debate here, pretty much everyone knows this guy is a phony.

The point is if you are gonna get yourself knowingly into a bad situation you better not start pointing fingers. If you are that fukkin sharp, you never, ever, ever would, could or should be looking for somone to wipe your ass after you take a shit.

[mathdotcom]

i take back this post mathy

i made it in the heat of the moment

i hope you get paid

would never want to see someone get stiffed

There is the fukking around part of the forum and playing verbal grab azz but when it comes to the serious business of the industry, posters are all in it together and need to look out for each other.

[mathdotcom]

Yes the whole ruse is absolutely contradictory. Guy passes himself off as a fukkin sharp but racks up that kind of jack at a square lined book.

But that is not the point nor the debate here, pretty much everyone knows this guy is a phony.

The point is if you are gonna get yourself knowingly into a bad situation you better not start pointing fingers. If you are that fukkin sharp, you never, ever, ever would, could or should be looking for somone to wipe your ass after you take a shit.

My last deposit to a BOL book was probably January 2012. I did not knowingly stick my rooster in a fire and now I am whining that I got burned. They had paid fairly quickly and consistently for years up until around January/February of this year. And then they stopped. What am I supposed to do? How was I to know?

What if BOL buys the Greek tonight and now your balance is BOL's liability? How can anyone blame you. By the way, this is exactly what happened to a number of sportsbetting.ag bettors last month, including me. How were they to know BOL was acquiring sportsbetting.ag? As soon as the rumor came out, I tried to pull out but it was too late.

[ZetaPsi808]

SBR is the best gambling forum on the internet

mods are great and have helped me out with sportsbook complaints before

no issues for me

[billysink]

My last deposit to a BOL book was probably January 2012. I did not knowingly stick my rooster in a fire and now I am whining that I got burned. They had paid fairly quickly and consistently for years up until around January/February of this year. And then they stopped. What am I supposed to do? How was I to know?

What if BOL buys the Greek tonight and now your balance is BOL's liability? How can anyone blame you. By the way, this is exactly what happened to a number of sportsbetting.ag bettors last month, including me. How were they to know BOL was acquiring sportsbetting.ag? As soon as the rumor came out, I tried to pull out but it was too late.

Mathy come on brother. You know or should have known exactly what the fukk went on there. Not like it was a big secret pal, common knowledge weeks before it happened. You gotta be better than that. I suspect you perhaps fell asleep at the wheel here or at the very least were slow to react.

I get your premise here but this does not line up with your persona. You should have been in the know here with that kind of investment.

Something not adding up here. Like I said earlier, I would love to see you get your jack but you gotta own some of this.

[Kindred]

most post up players on SBR never make a withdrawal so BOL is A++ for 99% of the players talk community

[mathdotcom]

Mathy come on brother. You know or should have known exactly what the fukk went on there. Not like it was a big secret pal, common knowledge weeks before it happened. You gotta be better than that. I suspect you perhaps fell asleep at the wheel here or at the very least were slow to react.

I get your premise here but this does not line up with your persona. You should have been in the know here with that kind of investment.

Something not adding up here. Like I said earlier, I would love to see you get your jack but you gotta own some of this.

I had heard a lot of rumors, some of them contradictory. The point is you need a lot of advanced notice to be able to pull out of a book vs. deciding whether to get into one.

Anyways, BOL can stiff me and that's that. I won't be happy and there's nothing I or anyone else can do. I wouldn't even expect SBR to get me paid. All I expect from SBR is that it try to help, and to adjust their rating of the book accordingly. Instead what we see are complaints being blatantly ignored by SBR and their rating sitting nice and pretty at B+.

Contrast their treatment of the BOL situation with the eagerness with which they go after no-name books (see the Justin7 videos of books you, or I, have probably barely heard of), and the speed at which those books' ratings fall.

[Optional]

Losing players don't see the problem here Mathy. Issues they've never even had to consider.

Fukk you too.

You can do it honestly by actually advocating for players since that's what they claim to do. If there is ever a tradeoff between helping players or cashing a check, we now know which SBR will choose.

A rating of F is deserved for any book that stiffs. The range of D up to A+ measures other aspects of quality. B+ puts them just below the top offshore books -- I think a significant drop was warranted until BOL shapes up. I believe the B+ was fully warranted 2 years ago though, maybe even A-.

No "we" don't know SBR won't help players in disputes with sponsors. You (and others) just keep saying it like parrots. Yet I see disputes with advertisers discussed and resolved almost every time in the S&I forum??

It still sounds to me like even you think the BOL rating is a matter of opinion. And not grossly out of line with what it should be.

I'm pretty sure that for new players playing offshore from the US security of funds is almost always near #1 in what they want. Pretty much any US facing book that an old timer like you can feel confident will eventually pay deserves a B imho. And if new players don't take the time to do a simple search and find out about the pay delays, whatever a site like SBR says, I don't feel too sorry for them.

This place is a business. But it seems like many people from the land of capitalism resent them making money! (which might be partly understandable if not for SBR giving so much back in contest prizes and points etc)

[jjgold]

Johnny Walker will straighten this out

Mods here not experienced enough to handle this

[billysink]

I had heard a lot of rumors, some of them contradictory. The point is you need a lot of advanced notice to be able to pull out of a book vs. deciding whether to get into one.

Anyways, BOL can stiff me and that's that. I won't be happy and there's nothing I or anyone else can do. I wouldn't even expect SBR to get me paid. All I expect from SBR is that it try to help, and to adjust their rating of the book accordingly. Instead what we see are complaints being blatantly ignored by SBR and their rating sitting nice and pretty at B+.

Contrast their treatment of the BOL situation with the eagerness with which they go after no-name books (see the Justin7 videos of books you, or I, have probably barely heard of), and the speed at which those books' ratings fall.

Did it ever come to your attention that maybe this shit is a bit too volatile right now and you are putting Walker in a bad spot. Joe Junior and the Harp are about to take a shit and you wanna stick SBR right in the middle of it.

This book has been a no play since the bust and will trade hands a zillion times to keep the money coming in. That the kind of book you wanna leave your cheese in fella?

I suggest you fukks let this go and quit hanging someone else's ass over a cliff for your own shortcomings.

I also suggest this thread be deleted and you fukks stand down. If you give a rat's ass about this site that is some no too bad advice.

And thank me later.

[mathdotcom]

You are talking about guys that ran BOL even before Clive got involved

[Chimneyfish]

Instead what we see are complaints being blatantly ignored by SBR and their rating sitting nice and pretty at B+.

What's even worse than their refusal to lower the B+ rating is the fact that they're now deleting threads from players who post their negative experiences with sponsor books. The ability to post sportsbook complaints on a public forum and have them viewed by a large number people is the most useful tool that SBR offers its members. If they take that tool away from us by censoring criticisms of certain books, then they are simultaneously taking away our security in knowing that sponsorship money isn't being used to cover up shady operations.

[billysink]

You are talking about guys that ran BOL even before Clive got involved

Jesus Mathy. I can't help you no more kid. What the fukk you think happens here.

Leave it be.

[jjgold]

Posters look at the ratings

Most are pretty accurate but some are off like BetOnline..I say it is like a C-

I think small bettors are paid but the bigger guys no

[raydog]

jaysus billy...you are on a different level man... you need shit outs with big limits these days...i have more money in c and d sbrrated books (not that sbrs rating means anything these days, because it doesnt) than i would like, but not everyone is a stiff and its chances that we must make in order to make a good living in the business...you are simply not on that level of gambling and theres nothing wrong with that, im not bashing or anything...im just pointing out the fact that you dont do what me, mathy and others do...you have no idea...so you shouldnt judge anyone...you look flat out silly for bitching at someone who has more money in shit books than you have life savings

[billysink]

Posters look at the ratings

Most are pretty accurate but some are off like BetOnline..I say it is like a C-

I think small bettors are paid but the bigger guys no

Jesus Gold do you ever know when to quit.

[dlunc3]

Posters look at the ratings

Most are pretty accurate but some are off like BetOnline..I say it is like a C-

I think small bettors are paid but the bigger guys no

ive been waiting for 5k since may 20th.. telling me its gonna be another 5/7 weeks still

doesnt seem like they are in any hurry to pay anyone