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    k13
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    Are those Bookmaker percentages really the number of bets on each side?

    I don't check out their site too often just noticed it recently.

    They seem sort of believable.....

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    what site??

    Sports Insights they are exaggerated terribly

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    Is this what you're talking about? I haven't actually used them much - always forget. Would also like to know how realistic those are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    what site??

    Sports Insights they are exaggerated terribly
    No they are not, Sports Insights is very accurate and you can even get a breakdown by book. I wouldn't trust most free sites though with the notable exception of SBR, which is accurate but uses 5 Dimes only.

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    Those numbers aren't accurate

    Neither are the pay services either

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    Is this what you're talking about? I haven't actually used them much - always forget. Would also like to know how realistic those are.

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    Yeah that's what I'm talking about.

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    I am more interested in amount of $$$ on each side

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    Quote Originally Posted by unluckysob View Post
    I am more interested in amount of $$$ on each side
    No, knowing % of bets is more important. The lines moves with the money like 99% of the time, so knowing $$$ bet won't reveal anything because it will coincide with the line move. But knowing percent of bets makes it easier to spot sharp money moves (RLM).

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    The line does NOT move with the money. A square bets 50k and CRIS may not move the line. A sharp or someone they respect bets $2000 on same game and they move 1/2 point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogger View Post
    The line does NOT move with the money. A square bets 50k and CRIS may not move the line. A sharp or someone they respect bets $2000 on same game and they move 1/2 point.
    I get the whole "Faces, not Dollars" scenario, but in the long run, money talks because squares betting big money won't have that money for long and the sharps have more staying power.

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    Cris/Bookmaker is totally over rated in terms of "sharp lines"...i see weak ass lines there all the time, and am 99% sure they move on money where pinny would just set the line back to where it was.

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    Use an average from all the sites that offer ticket count percentages.

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    The most action on Bears and Bills over total wins.

    Sounds about right to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    The most action on Bears and Bills over total wins.

    Sounds about right to me.
    I like both of those two as well as Falcons under 9.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogger View Post
    The line does NOT move with the money. A square bets 50k and CRIS may not move the line. A sharp or someone they respect bets $2000 on same game and they move 1/2 point.

    Not many squares playing 50k a game....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte View Post
    Cris/Bookmaker is totally over rated in terms of "sharp lines"...i see weak ass lines there all the time, and am 99% sure they move on money where pinny would just set the line back to where it was.
    I agree. "cris" and "sharp lines" should not be mentioned in the same sentence. Years ago they absolutely were sharp, those times have passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachJB View Post
    Not many squares playing 50k a game....
    I think you are highly underestimating how much money is bet by recreational bettors/whales and how many of them there are in the U.S. . I know a small town New England bookie that takes up to 500k bets for NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    I like both of those two as well as Falcons under 9.5
    Sharpen up LT.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Sharpen up LT.....
    Oh, I think I am pretty sharp. I am also feeling Jets Under 9.

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    I was looking at their olympic betting last night and some weird numbers there. According to them, they only got bets on the favorites and two longshots in one of the track and field ones I was looking at. Everything else was blank.

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    Squares are not betting Bills over 7.5 wins......
    Well actually maybe the pseudo-sharps are (myself included, I bet over 7 wins -130) because very very few sharps bet over on any win total ever

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    There is always a high % on the biggest shit odds available...like Redsox today -210 and -200, either there are a lot of dumbfukks betting at BM or these numbers are made up.

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