[accuscoresucks]

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Win	25 Team Parlay
									Win	7/14/12 7:00am ATP Tennis 201 David Ferrer -775* vs Grigor Dimitrov
									Win	7/13/12 10:00pm WTA Tennis 601 Serena Williams -1380* vs Chanelle Scheepers
									Win	7/14/12 10:00pm WTA Tennis 601 Serena Williams -1025* vs Sorana Cirstea
									Win	7/14/12 7:00pm Boxing Fighting 252 Hernan Marquez -3000* vs Fernando Lumacad
									Win	7/14/12 11:00pm Boxing Fighting 602 Anthony Mundine -1050* vs Bronco McKart
									Win	7/14/12 10:30pm Boxing Fighting 952 Fernando Guerrero -900* vs Jose Medina
									Win	7/14/12 8:00pm Boxing Fighting 972 Phil Lo Greco -1750* vs Brandon Hoskins
									Win	7/15/12 1:30pm WTA Tennis 501 Sara Errani -1105* vs Barbora Zahlavova Strycova
									Win	7/15/12 4:00pm WTA Tennis 601 Serena Williams -1575* vs Coco Vandeweghe
									Win	7/15/12 12:15pm Qualifying Tennis 1310 Tim Smyczek -1500* vs Olivier Sajous
									Win	7/15/12 12:15pm Qualifying Tennis 1311 Sergei Bubka -1500* vs Catalin-Ionut Gard
									Win	7/16/12 2:00am Challenger Tennis 901 James McGee -2000* vs Ilya Chkoniya
									Win	7/16/12 6:45am Challenger Tennis 916 Evgeny Donskoy -1500* vs Aslan Karatsev
									Win	7/16/12 6:45am Challenger Tennis 918 Yuki Bhambri -1500* vs Divij Sharan
									Win	7/17/12 6:15am WTA Tennis 430 Arantxa Rus -1120* vs Rebecka Petersson
									Win	7/16/12 11:00pm Challenger Tennis 609 Tsung-Hua Yang -2000* vs Bowen Ouyang
									Win	7/17/12 12:15am Challenger Tennis 612 Josselin Ouanna -2000*vs Kittipong Wachiramanowong
									Cancelled	7/17/12 4:00am Challenger Tennis 909 Alexander Kudryavtsev -1500* vs Mikhail Biryukov
									Win	7/17/12 4:45am Challenger Tennis 913 Laurent Recouderc -9000* vs Alexey Tumakov
									Win	7/17/12 4:00am Challenger Tennis 1006 Nicolas Devilder -1500* vs Dimitar Grabuloski
									Win	7/17/12 4:30am Challenger Tennis 1102 Arnau Brugues-Davi -1200* vs Andriej Kapas
									Win	7/17/12 5:45am Challenger Tennis 1107 Javier Marti -2000* vs Maciej Smola
									Win	7/17/12 10:15am Challenger Tennis 1101 Jerzy Janowicz -1200* vs Piotr Gadomski
									Win	7/17/12 7:15am Challenger Tennis 1208 Adrian Menendez-Maceiras -1200* vs Giacomo Miccini
									Win	7/17/12 1:45pm Challenger Tennis 1220 Florent Serra -1500* vs Claudio G

[PickWinnerAllDay]

What was the payout?

[accuscoresucks]

amount i do not discuss but about 6x the original wager to start it

[CarpeDime]

What was the payout?

pays +447

hey not bad

a +447 winner is a +447 winner no matter how you slice it

[CarpeDime]

amount i do not discuss but about 6x the original wager to start it

i got 4.5x using the parlay calc unless i entered numbers wrong

[Vaughany]

so $1 to win $4.50!

[Kaladarus]

What is this? I've never heard of like 20 of these guys. Put this in the WWF forum.

[accuscoresucks]

start with just a measly 100$ complete 3 25 teamers using college sports only [ml.with 30point spreads or larger] and if reinvested after each completed parlay you will have close to 100k

[bjpenn85]

he he fønni

[dj_destroyer]

I want to post up at 5dimes just to try a couple of these... I would start off with 5 pick'ems every time and hope to get on a streak, after that, move onto heavier favourites in the -300 to -600 range before finishing off the last ten plays with big favourites -800 to -1500.

I would want at least 250 to 1

[accuscoresucks]

I want to post up at 5dimes just to try a couple of these... I would start off with 5 pick'ems every time and hope to get on a streak, after that, move onto heavier favourites in the -300 to -600 range before finishing off the last ten plays with big favourites -800 to -1500.

I would want at least 250 to 1

yeah normally i start with a line of very close to +ev on both sides[bet both sides to start] then pound it rest of way

[Pinocchio]

amount i do not discuss but about 6x the original wager to start it

You post on a discussion board and then not discuss? I like you already. One other thing you don't discuss is what your record is overall regarding 10+ runner parlays and how much you're in the green overall...

And how can you have three Serena bets in the same parlay?







[NunyaBidness]

What does this have to do with the MMA forum?

[accuscoresucks]

You post on a discussion board and then not discuss? I like you already. One other thing you don't discuss is what your record is overall regarding 10+ runner parlays and how much you're in the green overall...

sports is an investment really the whole thing is based of simple calculations of mathmatics,and figures..math equations are the only important thing here not how much that guy made on that wager,ect ect. we are discussing math.
if you would like to get an example of how much of a return on investment one can get u can look at my spreadsheet or my numerious posted picks.that can give you an idea..based on extensive sample size wagering in blocks of 500,i personally at best always seem to hover around 57%

[DublinMeUp]

sports is an investment really the whole thing is based of simple calculations of mathmatics,and figures..math equations are the only important thing here not how much that guy made on that wager,ect ect. we are discussing math.
if you would like to get an example of how much of a return on investment one can get u can look at my spreadsheet or my numerious posted picks.that can give you an idea..based on extensive sample size wagering in blocks of 500,i personally at best always seem to hover around 57%

Speaking of math, you think that parlay hits more than 20.77% of the time? based on my figures your parlay paid +381.55 (4.81).

not gonna bother to show you why it doesn't hit that amount but feel free to explain this "calculation" you speak of

[accuscoresucks]

Speaking of math, you think that parlay hits more than 20.77% of the time? based on my figures your parlay paid +381.55 (4.81).

not gonna bother to show you why it doesn't hit that amount but feel free to explain this "calculation" you speak of

-----i dabble with parlay only sometimes with profit from sports betting personally i dont likem or promote them----
A lot of bettors won't bother to read this article because it's about parlays. They have already decided parlays are bad bets, so why read an article about them? A lot of them were taught about the evils of parlays by their bookmakers.
.....But some bookmakers refuse to accept certain parlay bets, such as parlaying the runline with the total on a baseball game. Some don't even allow parlaying the pointspread with the total on a pro basketball game. Sometimes you will find much lower betting limits on parlay bets than on 'normal' bets, or even short payouts, such as 6-FOR-1 against 3-bet parlays rather than the more acceptable 6-TO-1. Think about it...No bookmaker seems anxious to promote the use of parlay bets. One well-known Las Vegas sportbook manager insists he is protecting bettors from parlays by limiting their use. Meanwhile, he invites us to bet on who will win the next World Series charging 30+ percent vigorish on futures bets.
Does any of the above seem a little strange to you?
Let's get real. The truth is, if parlay bets were really bad for bettors bookmakers would be promoting the hell out of them.
Take a look at this proposition:
TRUE OR FALSE:
A 3-bet parlay paying 6-to-1 has less vigorish than three single bets risking 11 to win ten.
I am sure you will agree that most sport bettors would answer "False" to that statement. Even many very experienced handicappers think a 3-bet parlay has higher vigorish charges than 3 'normal' 11-10 bets.
The statement is true. A 3-bet parlay paying 6-to-1 costs less in vigorish than three separate bets risking 11 to win 10.....Here's the proof:
Ignoring ties, eight different outcomes are possible with any three sport bets:
W-W-W
W-W-L
W-L-W
L-W-W
W-L-L
L-W-L
L-L-W
L-L-L
With 8 possible outcomes a bookmaker could get 8 different 3-bet parlays from 8 different bettors on the same three propositions. Let's say that happens, and say each of the 8 different bettors risks $100 to win $600.
When the games are over, seven bettors lose their $100 and the eighth bettor wins $600. The bookmaker, who originally received a total of $800 from the eight different bettors, gives the winner a total of $700.....$600 in winnings plus the $100 originally risked by the bettor. The remaining $100 is profit for the bookmaker.
This is where most gamblers go wrong when figuring the bookmaker's profit. They conclude that since $100 is 12.5% of $800, the bookmaker made a whopping profit of 12.5 percent.
But hold on a minute. Let's take a closer look at what really happened here.....Remember, a 3-bet parlay is exactly that: Three bets. Not one bet. Three bets tied together ("parlayed"). Suppose the three bets were laid individually, rather than as a parlay. Assume a bettor laid $100 on a standard "11-10" bet to win $91, and does win, and then suppose he re-bets the entire $191 on a second bet, and wins again. The payback on the second bet is $191 x 1.91, or $365. Now suppose he risks the entire $365 on yet a third bet and wins again.....$365 x 1.91 = $697. He's won a total of $597. The bettor began with $100, he won all three bets, he ended with $697.
Seen as individual bets, it's easy to see that the bettor risked a lot more than the original $100. He risked $100 on the first bet, then he risked $191 on the second bet, then he risked $365 on the third bet. That's a total risked of $656 on the three bets to win a profit of $597. Note that had he simply risked $100 on a 3-bet parlay he would have ended with $700 instead of $697...the 3-bet parlay actually costs slightly less. (It works out to about 4.35% per bet rather than the 4.55% charged on single bets.)
The eight bettors who risked $100 each on the eight different 3-bet parlays did not bet only $800. Not at all. Four of those eight bettors were fated to win their first bet and re-bet everything on the second bet. Two of those four bettors were then bound to win the second bet and re-bet everything on the third bet...Those eight bettors actually bet a total of $2,294, not $800. The $100 that was finally kept by the bookmaker is about 4.35% of $2,294.
So, is that why bookmakers don't encourage the use of parlays, - because the bookmaker's commission is slightly lower? No, that doesn't float. His commission is slightly higher on most other parlays. The difference in vigorish is insignificant. In fact, if more bettors used parlays it would result in a big increase in gross business for the bookmaker. In effect, $100 bettors would be betting $191 on that second game and $395 on that third game. In effect, that translates to a giant increase in "sales" for the bookmaker. Going by that, it seems that parlays would be a great deal for bookmakers.
If that were the case, you can bet your lungs bookmakers would encourage parlays.
Then why don't they encourage parlays? The reason is obvious. Those bettors who understand how and when to use parlays can use them to their advantage. Bookmakers are afraid of knowledgeable bettors using parlays.
Here's an illustration showing the "correct" odds of various size parlays, the "fair" payoff relative to a vigorish charge of 4.55%, and your chances of winning the parlay if you have a 55% winning probability on each individual bet....

Parlay payoffs 1st column = Number of bets in parlay 2nd column = Correct odds of winning all bets in parlay 3rd column = Payoffs roughly equal to 4.55% vigorish 4th column = Odds of winning with 55% expectation per bet

size odds with standard odds with of 50% chance '11-10' 55% chance parlay per bet payoff per bet 2 3 to 1 13 to 5 2.3 to 1 3 7 to 1 6 to 1 5.0 to 1 4 15 to 1 12 to 1 9.9 to 1 5 31 to 1 24 to 1 19.9 to 1 6 63 to 1 48 to 1 35.2 to 1 7 127 to 1 92 to 1 65.8 to 1 8 255 to 1 176 to 1 118.5 to 1 9 511 to 1 337 to 1 215.9 to 1 10 1,023 to 1 645 to 1 394.3 to 1 11 2,047 to 1 1,233 to 1 719.4 to 1 12 4,095 to 1 2,356 to 1 1302.8 to 1 (Odds are rounded)

This particular article you're reading is meant only to prove that parlays do NOT carry higher bookmaker charges than individual bets risking 11 to win ten. It's important right here to note we do NOT recommend the random use of parlays. Used wrong they can and will be disastrous. Make no mistake about it, bookmakers would love average bettors to wade in using lots of random parlays. It's those pesky wise guys that spoil everything for the bookmakers. The correct use of parlays can dramatically reduce your downside risk and dramatically increase your profits. Reducing your downside risk and increasing your profits is, of course, not in the bookmakers' best interest.

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[v1y]

sports is an investment really the whole thing is based of simple calculations of mathmatics,and figures..math equations are the only important thing here not how much that guy made on that wager,ect ect. we are discussing math.
if you would like to get an example of how much of a return on investment one can get u can look at my spreadsheet or my numerious posted picks.that can give you an idea..based on extensive sample size wagering in blocks of 500,i personally at best always seem to hover around 57%

to the person reading this, your last bad beat was because this guy stole all your luck.

[jjgold]

Well this guy I do believe

Legit player..would never question him

Nice work guy

[DublinMeUp]

You're correct I didn't read all of it. I stopped at the part where it said "vigorish".

Please tell me what percentage chance you believe that parlay had of winning, then how you got to "6x the wager" as a payout

[cruzing vato]

wahts you win percentage on these bets ??? 33% or what?

I hit 3 teamers for a 6 to 1 payout every now and then, but don start a thread, so I bet you lost 100 of these b4 winnin ese

[MUHerd37]

I have hit many of these. Very fun to do.

[PharaohUB]

Scary to do this with tennis at 5 dimes because 1 set rule and guy could pull something and retire. I like the idea of college football though.

[JNic]

real good but just wondering on how you can have serena 3 different times? is it like if she advances or something I dont get it

[Dirty Sanchez]

Another BS SBR Fantasy brought to you by SBR Odds....that's SBR Odds

[romecloneout]

real good but just wondering on how you can have serena 3 different times? is it like if she advances or something I dont get it

the bet is called an "open" parlay...which means he gets to pick the games as he goes...so if he bets 5 games today and they all hit, he can bet more the next day..until he wins 25. so if he hits like 20 in a row then he is able to pick and choose to get to 25. that is why all the dates of his games are different

[DublinMeUp]

the bet is called an "open" parlay...which means he gets to pick the games as he goes...so if he bets 5 games today and they all hit, he can bet more the next day..until he wins 25. so if he hits like 20 in a row then he is able to pick and choose to get to 25. that is why all the dates of his games are different

So basically he just made 25 bets

[romecloneout]

So basically he just made 25 bets

yeah but not all at once like a regular parlay....he can bet 1 game a day he if wants to...as long as he doesnt lose..haha

[JNic]

the bet is called an "open" parlay...which means he gets to pick the games as he goes...so if he bets 5 games today and they all hit, he can bet more the next day..until he wins 25. so if he hits like 20 in a row then he is able to pick and choose to get to 25. that is why all the dates of his games are different

Oh shit I didn't know about that, that actually sounds pretty fun

[accuscoresucks]

Another BS SBR Fantasy brought to you by SBR Odds....that's SBR Odds

ok dirt whatever u say buddy

[accuscoresucks]

the bet is called an "open" parlay...which means he gets to pick the games as he goes...so if he bets 5 games today and they all hit, he can bet more the next day..until he wins 25. so if he hits like 20 in a row then he is able to pick and choose to get to 25. that is why all the dates of his games are different

i forgot to mention this open parlay yes..obviously important.
im so used to opens i didnt think closed existed anymore

[Smoke]

Well this guy I do believe

Legit player..would never question him

Nice work guy

[Imsmarterthanu]

25 team parlay and it only payed out +445 ?

usually 25 team parlays pay out over +1000 were they all locks ?

man and you got it in tennis challenger too what a lucky payout tennis challenger is terrible for betting parlays

[zizoudane10]

I want to post up at 5dimes just to try a couple of these... I would start off with 5 pick'ems every time and hope to get on a streak, after that, move onto heavier favourites in the -300 to -600 range before finishing off the last ten plays with big favourites -800 to -1500.

I would want at least 250 to 1

Yeah, wanted to try some open parlays just for fun at 5dimes. Funny thing is: They don't let non US citizens do open parlay.... Pretty fcked up imho , and I really think 5dimes should make these available for all their customers. Makes no sense in my eyes.

[w@lt]

I'm very intrigued. accuscore, how did you make your picks?

[accuscoresucks]

I'm very intrigued. accuscore, how did you make your picks?

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