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    SBR_John
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    How do you play this poker hand and what's your reasoning?

    You are sitting at a 10 chair ring game, all seats full. Its a 2/4 table.

    Your position is the seat just before the small blind.

    Your hand is King Queen suited.

    Player 1 calls $4, player 2 also calls $4. 3,4,5 fold. Player 6 raises to $16. Pkayer 7 calls $16

    Now its your turn. Do you call basically knowing at least 1 player has an Ace and another may have a pair?? Or throw them away?

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    raises to 33.33 bet flop easy game

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    See the flop but don't chase after that. One player has an ace for sure, most likely two have an ace. In this case, you should keep your eye on player 7. He is calling the 16 with several others behind him still to make a move. Most likely this guy has the best or 2nd best hand pre-flop. You shouldn't hesitate to call for $16, anything higher than 70ish I will fold.

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    Throw them away. Too much likelihood that you're up against Kk,Qq,Aq, Ak. You may crush the flop and still be drawing dead.

    You're in for nothing. Keep it that way with K high.

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    You have to call and see the flop. If you flop a flush, and you fold pre folp, it will make u want to kill yourself.

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    you are utg, fold pre

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    oops misread your position. you were on the button. fold to $16 but this is player dependent.
    Last edited by Ghenghis Kahn; 07-18-12 at 12:20 PM.

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    I think it's called the button...

    Call, implied odds...

    what you do after that is what separates the men from the boys...

    Good Luck

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    Even if the raiser is holding a monster a call is 100% correct here. Your hand has more value vs more players you want the others after you to call also. Im sure you get at least 1 more in the pot probably 2. If you raise in this spot you may as well just play sbr poker as you dont understand the game.
    1 another reraise your in trouble'
    2 it narrows the field to 2 players and you lost value.
    3 you may be in a raise reraise trap by team mates

    Bottom line suited connectors vs a good size field is value but you dont want to be in over your head preflop.
    You may flop the jackpot and bust AA. The tough flop is if something like k82 rainbow flops an the raiser bets out or reraises another bet.

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    KQ has little value here. The hand has value?! 9/10 has value here. 6/7 has value here. KQ in a hand with 3 potentially 4 people in a raised pot has diminished value.

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    Flat call, internet poker everyone overplays their hand. Seriously doubt either has aces, kings or queen. If you hit your queen you're good, most likely one of the two have a-k at best.

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    Foldie is right it's the button. I would put the initial raiser on a steal or at least A-10 or higher Ace combo. The caller has as suggested a pair & is set mining. The problem here is your Live. There are always tards who don't understand bet sizing & picked $16 at random the other guy could be in the same boat & called because $16 is nothing.

    The correct move is to fold. But I honestly would of called which is why I'm usually stuck trying to out play these tards on the flop.

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    easy call because you are on the button
    just dont get stacked with top pair on the flop.

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    offsuited you could consider a fold

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    If ur stack is only 3x the BB, your are all in.

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    On the button, you should call. Great position to be in, and with only a 4X big blind bet, its worth a shot. If you were in a blind or player 1 or 2, I probably wouldn't call. Always worth seeing the flop for KQ suited in position, as long as the raise stays lower like that. $30+ is a no call IMO.

    Also depends on how big of a stack you have. If you're sitting on the short stack and under $100, you either fold or shove.

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    Well you have position

    Player 7 has the strongest hand most of the time just flatting the raise pre.

    What are Player 6/7 tendencies? Are they TAG/LAG? Stack sizes? Since this SBR Poker KQ is probably good

    Call and re-evaluate flop most of the time.....depends the player. 5% of the time you can attempt a squeeze....but not for betpoints as you'll get insta-called with ATC

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    You call everytime.

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    no one asked if the raiser is tight as a virgin or loose as a $2 dollar hooker. this hand is player dependent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    no one asked if the raiser is tight as a virgin or loose as a $2 dollar hooker. this hand is player dependent.
    post #16

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    some answers from guys in the top 50 here
    Hope they attend the bash and play nl/
    16 dollars to your stack size and vs what possible to win from the raiser even if he holds AA is value
    Lots of non playing mfers here

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    Shyt too easy..you call

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    if you are playing live poker you should fold.. if you are playing sbr poker you are up against AA and KK so you are probably a 90 percent fav and the flop will come 9 10 j so you will be good.

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    All in

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    KQs call in multi-way pots, the more people in the pot the better.

    KQ, just fold it.

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    Why fold ..may flop a flush or 2 of the same suit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside Magick View Post
    Why fold ..may flop a flush or 2 of the same suit
    118 to 1 odds you flop a flush so I hope you dont play poker for money if you think like that.....actually I hope you do.

    Dont try and chase flushes or go broke because its suited

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    118 to 1 odds you flop a flush so I hope you dont play poker for money if you think like that.....actually I hope you do.

    Dont try and chase flushes or go broke because its suited
    kqs vs a9 vs 77

    Who do you think is favorite?

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    Calling is the +EV play. You have 2 already in for $16 and a couple limpers will most likely not come over the top. so you're getting about 4/1 on calling with KQs. Also, 1 of 3 limpers may call and it'll put u at 5-1 on your money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    kqs vs a9 vs 77

    Who do you think is favorite?
    KQ slight fav

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    No one mentioned it so I'll ask a follow up;

    Personally I tend to think fold is the play because I'm worried about a possible reraise from either the small or the big or even a big push in from 1st base. There is no guarantee I'm gonna see the flop for $16. For you guys who said call, do you worry about a big reraise from small, big or first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    No one mentioned it so I'll ask a follow up;

    Personally I tend to think fold is the play because I'm worried about a possible reraise from either the small or the big or even a big push in from 1st base. There is no guarantee I'm gonna see the flop for $16. For you guys who said call, do you worry about a big reraise from small, big or first?
    Unless they have Aces or Kings SB/BB wont be playing with a raise, call, call infront of them OOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    KQ slight fav
    Then why are you folding? Maybe if you are playing with super nits.

    I guess you have to calculate your implied odds if to call or not then jam it in there on any big draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    118 to 1 odds you flop a flush so I hope you dont play poker for money if you think like that.....actually I hope you do.

    Dont try and chase flushes or go broke because its suited
    The odds might be long, but u are going to be folding a hammer if it hits.

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    I'm calling with J10s if the game is deep stacked.
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    You have to at least see the flop..if at least 2 card don't come..then fold

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